"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

It occurred to me that GM, with 15 days left to come up with an
acceptable survival plan to qualify for more bailout funds from the
government, may simply be playing high stakes poker with the government
by leaking info that they plan to export Chinese built cars to the US.
In other words, "give us more money, President Obama, and we'll drop the
Chinese export/import plan."

Further convinces me to never, ever, buy a GM product. Let 'em go
belly-up for good.

Meanwhile, our neighbor is taking delivery next week of his new, "Smart
Car". He recently totaled his last car and Mrs.E. lent him the use of
her little VW Beetle until he got a replacement. I am sure I'll be able
to try out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

Eisboch



Your neighbor totalled his last car and now he wants one of those little
boxes? My guess is they don't do so well in crash tests. Evolution in
action, as it were.

If someone wants a tiny car...why not try the Honda Fit.
On the various vehicle review TV programs..the testers seem to love the
little car... especially the 2009 version which is supposed to be a bit
roomier.
PersonallyI think any normal sized, middle-aged adult would be more
comfortable in something a bit bigger...like a RAV4.
Oversized 'mericans might want a Highlander or Honda Pilot

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:
It occurred to me that GM, with 15 days left to come up with an
acceptable survival plan to qualify for more bailout funds from the
government, may simply be playing high stakes poker with the government
by leaking info that they plan to export Chinese built cars to the US.
In other words, "give us more money, President Obama, and we'll drop the
Chinese export/import plan."

Further convinces me to never, ever, buy a GM product. Let 'em go
belly-up for good.

Meanwhile, our neighbor is taking delivery next week of his new, "Smart
Car". He recently totaled his last car and Mrs.E. lent him the use of
her little VW Beetle until he got a replacement. I am sure I'll be able
to try out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

Eisboch


Your neighbor totalled his last car and now he wants one of those little
boxes? My guess is they don't do so well in crash tests. Evolution in
action, as it were.

If someone wants a tiny car...why not try the Honda Fit.
On the various vehicle review TV programs..the testers seem to love the
little car... especially the 2009 version which is supposed to be a bit
roomier.
PersonallyI think any normal sized, middle-aged adult would be more
comfortable in something a bit bigger...like a RAV4.
Oversized 'mericans might want a Highlander or Honda Pilot


Some would and some wouldn't. The fit is really too small. We traded a
sporty car in on a CRV. My wife wasn't thrilled at first to make the
trade but she soon grew to like the CRV a lot. It's definately more
comfortable than the cars they are making today. We bought it to be
towed not tow, so it doesn't bother me that it would be a **** poor tow
vehicle.

On Thu, 14 May 2009 05:13:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


It occurred to me that GM, with 15 days left to come up with an acceptable
survival plan to qualify for more bailout funds from the government, may
simply be playing high stakes poker with the government by leaking info that
they plan to export Chinese built cars to the US. In other words, "give us
more money, President Obama, and we'll drop the Chinese export/import plan."

Further convinces me to never, ever, buy a GM product. Let 'em go belly-up
for good.

Your call. I think the main reason Ford kept it's head above water
was making so much stuff in Mexico. Not sure of that though.
The Fusion you mentioned getting good reviews is made in Mexico, trans
made in Japan. I heard the Focus, a good Ford seller, will be made
out of the country next year.
If it keeps going like this, pretty soon if you want an "American" car
your choice will be Toyota, Honda or Nissan.
The Japs are more patriotic Americans than the Americans!
Of course business and patriotism parted ways long ago.

Meanwhile, our neighbor is taking delivery next week of his new, "Smart
Car". He recently totaled his last car and Mrs.E. lent him the use of her
little VW Beetle until he got a replacement. I am sure I'll be able to try
out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

French socialist car. I had a French bicycle.
Peugot. Paid too much for it.
Last week my wife got gas for 2.24. Next day the sign was 2.34, next
day 2.42.
I've got a feeling that gas won't go too high for a while.
You need customers with jobs and money.

--Vic

On May 14, 10:47*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2009 05:13:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:



It occurred to me that GM, with 15 days left to come up with an acceptable
survival plan to qualify for more bailout funds from the government, may
simply be playing high stakes poker with the government by leaking info that
they plan to export Chinese built cars to the US. * In other words, "give us
more money, President Obama, and we'll drop the Chinese export/import plan."

Further convinces me to never, ever, buy a GM product. *Let 'em go belly-up
for good.

Your call. *I think the main reason Ford kept it's head above water
was making so much stuff in Mexico. *Not sure of that though.
The Fusion you mentioned getting good reviews is made in Mexico, trans
made in Japan. *I heard the Focus, a good Ford seller, will be made
out of the country next year.
If it keeps going like this, pretty soon if you want an "American" car
your choice will be Toyota, Honda or Nissan.
The Japs are more patriotic Americans than the Americans!
Of course business and patriotism parted ways long ago.

Meanwhile, our neighbor is taking delivery next week of his new, "Smart
Car". * He recently totaled his last car and Mrs.E. lent him the use of her
little VW Beetle until he got a replacement. * I am sure I'll be able to try
out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

French socialist car. *I had a French bicycle.
Peugot. *Paid too much for it. *


Guy I used to work with had a Peugot. Was always talking about how
great it was, but never drove it because it was always in the shop for
something.

We told him that the word "Peugot" was French for "walk". :-

On Thu, 14 May 2009 11:25:08 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 14 May 2009 05:13:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


It occurred to me that GM, with 15 days left to come up with an acceptable
survival plan to qualify for more bailout funds from the government, may
simply be playing high stakes poker with the government by leaking info that
they plan to export Chinese built cars to the US. In other words, "give us
more money, President Obama, and we'll drop the Chinese export/import plan."

Further convinces me to never, ever, buy a GM product. Let 'em go belly-up
for good.

Meanwhile, our neighbor is taking delivery next week of his new, "Smart
Car". He recently totaled his last car and Mrs.E. lent him the use of her
little VW Beetle until he got a replacement. I am sure I'll be able to try
out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

Eisboch


We have a friend with one of the first Smart cars around here. She
says she loves it ... but there is a "for sale" sign in the window.

I was amused that when they did the recent crash tests (that Smart
cars didn't fare well in) They were hitting them with Toyotas.
You have to believe hitting an F-150 (the most popular vehicle in the
US) would be a lot worse.

The problem with the Smart Car is that the passenger cab and chassis
is too rigid - it's like a roll cage in a Sprint Cup car, only there
isn't any spare space or metal to take up energy from the impact.

My friend George Abel told me that he could well imagine what a person
would feel if he went over Niagra Falls in a barrel - he pulled every
single muscle in his body from being bounced around inside that cage.
The single thing he said he would remember forever was getting smacked
in the face with the driver's side air bag then smacking his face
against the steering wheel.

Not something I would want to test.

On Thu, 14 May 2009 07:11:00 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

HK wrote:

I've seen that video before. The "dummy" inside certainly did not walk
away.

Are you the dummy that wrote the quoted sentence?

Buttsniffer.

jps wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2009 07:11:00 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

HK wrote:

I've seen that video before. The "dummy" inside certainly did not walk
away.
Are you the dummy that wrote the quoted sentence?

Buttsniffer.

Cmon. You have no sense of humor. That was funny.

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:
It occurred to me that GM, with 15 days left to come up with an
acceptable survival plan to qualify for more bailout funds from the
government, may simply be playing high stakes poker with the government
by leaking info that they plan to export Chinese built cars to the US.
In other words, "give us more money, President Obama, and we'll drop the
Chinese export/import plan."

Further convinces me to never, ever, buy a GM product. Let 'em go
belly-up for good.

Meanwhile, our neighbor is taking delivery next week of his new, "Smart
Car". He recently totaled his last car and Mrs.E. lent him the use of
her little VW Beetle until he got a replacement. I am sure I'll be able
to try out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

Eisboch


Your neighbor totalled his last car and now he wants one of those little
boxes? My guess is they don't do so well in crash tests. Evolution in
action, as it were.

If someone wants a tiny car...why not try the Honda Fit.
On the various vehicle review TV programs..the testers seem to love the
little car... especially the 2009 version which is supposed to be a bit
roomier.
PersonallyI think any normal sized, middle-aged adult would be more
comfortable in something a bit bigger...like a RAV4.
Oversized 'mericans might want a Highlander or Honda Pilot



"Middle aged"? You must be kidding.

Try the "ultimate driving machine" and you won't go back.

I dunno. Every time I see one, I have the mental image of an egg,
rolling off the counter onto the floor.
JR

On Thu, 14 May 2009 05:13:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


It occurred to me that GM, with 15 days left to come up with an acceptable
survival plan to qualify for more bailout funds from the government, may
simply be playing high stakes poker with the government by leaking info that
they plan to export Chinese built cars to the US. In other words, "give us
more money, President Obama, and we'll drop the Chinese export/import plan."

Further convinces me to never, ever, buy a GM product. Let 'em go belly-up
for good.

Meanwhile, our neighbor is taking delivery next week of his new, "Smart
Car". He recently totaled his last car and Mrs.E. lent him the use of her
little VW Beetle until he got a replacement. I am sure I'll be able to try
out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

Eisboch







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On Thu, 14 May 2009 05:13:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I am sure I'll be able to try
out the Smart Car and I'll post my impressions of it.

Please tell us where the engine is. It's not immediately obvious when
you look at one close up.