Eisboch wrote:

"mmc" wrote in message
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I'm just another dumbass in the ethernet, but I have to wonder: if we
have drugs to make people spill secrets and we have been told by just
about every intelligence agency out there, including our own CIA, that
the torturee will say anything you want him to say to stop the
beating, cattle prodding, electric shock to the ol testees,
waterboarding, etc, etc, etc.... why the hell was this crap ever started?
Was it so the tapes and transcripts could be produced containing
exactly what the torturers were directed to "discover"? This "product"
could then be used to justify just about anything the big dogs wanted
to do when trotted out to the Senate Intelligence Committee.


Beats me.

I have a hazy recollection that the effectiveness of "truth serums",
etc. are really nothing but myths made popular by Hollywood.

Dr. Dean Edell had that for a subject on his radio show a while ago. He
said the whole idea was to make people so sleepy (like coming out of
anesthesia) that they were not able to lie.

He said the whole subject was based on wishful thinking.

Jim wrote:


Try the heavy duty tin foil, I hear it works better... Either way,
there are as many folks out there who say the techniqes saved lives...


Dick Cheney?

People say it, but there is never any proof, and we have lots of
evidence that it gave false information.






Dick Cheney! You gotta wonder why those who remain in charge at the GOP
don't pay him a visit and tell him to STFU already.

Dick Cheney...deserves to be indicted, convicted and sent to jail.