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wrote:
On Apr 17, 1:12 pm, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:01:45 -0700, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
No word yet on when they will start to be open and keep any of
the promises they made related to their own administration...
Well, of the 500 campaign promises Obama made, PolitiFact.com has him
breaking only six promises, and keeping 5 pages worth. Not bad, IMO
considering he's only been in office 3 months.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

Well, I don't know how they are rating it, or how they are trimming
the info to make it look good, but the important promises such as
"reaching over party lines, bills having 5 days for study, openness
about admin officials and the waivers, no lobbiests in the admin.. the
list goes on, are being ignored...


"The important promises..."

According to who? You? An uneducated dum****?

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Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.




Thanks for bringing this subject up. I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty
lefts and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are
smarter, we are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct)
attitude. It's at the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints
by referring to their "inferior" status. The words "elitist" and
"snob" come to mind very quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

Eisboch


Most of the "righty rights" here are as dumb as a doorknob. Loogy is a
lefty; he's also dumb as a doorknob. You're a moderate righty, and I
don't think you have been accused of being dumb.

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On Apr 17, 12:40*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:17:02 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:



...... three months makes.

Obama is letting the CIA and the Bush JD lawyers off the hook.
Chris Matthews is strongly defending our anti-Castro position.
Keith Olbermann is becoming more and more disgusted with Obama.

Stay tuned for further developments.

Eisboch

Did he say the lawyers were off the hook? *I thought it was just the
practitioners who were dependent on the instructions of others.

This is where the stark difference between left and right show up. *

The left aren't afraid to criticize their leaders when there's
disagreement.

The right often remain in lockstep with its leaders no matter.

"Disgust" is your *sensationalized version of what's happening. *On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.

SNIP
3. IRRESPONSIBLE SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS.

Extremists tend to make sweeping claims or judgments on little or no
evidence, and they have a tendency to confuse similarity with sameness.
That is, they assume that because two (or more) things, events, or
persons are alike in some respects, they must be alike in most
respects. The sloppy use of analogy is a treacherous form of logic and
has a high potential for false conclusions.

SNIP

Seems our friend JPS is an "extremist".. Hope he never buys a
gun...snerk

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...


Most of the "righty rights" here are as dumb as a doorknob. Loogy is a
lefty; he's also dumb as a doorknob. You're a moderate righty, and I
don't think you have been accused of being dumb.

You would be pleased to know that in another newsgroup that I
infrequently visit I am considered to be very much to the left. And
dumb.

It's all relative.
I admit though, Olbermann personifies the elitist attitude to which I
was referring.
He's not helping unite anybody, that's for sure.

Eisboch




I prefer Rachel. More cerebral than Keith, and she answers emails. But I
do watch Keith once or twice a week.

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On Apr 17, 1:50*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Most of the "righty rights" here are as dumb as a doorknob. Loogy is a
lefty; he's also dumb as a doorknob. You're a moderate righty, and I
don't think you have been accused of being dumb.

You would be pleased to know that in another newsgroup that I
infrequently visit *I am considered to be very much to the left. * And
dumb.

It's all relative.
I admit though, *Olbermann personifies the elitist attitude to which I
was referring.
He's not helping unite anybody, that's for sure.

Eisboch

I prefer Rachel. More cerebral than Keith, and she answers emails. But I
do watch Keith once or twice a week.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"More cerebral"? LOL... Just because she toes the party line.. Both
are babbling idiots...

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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:44:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


Most of the "righty rights" here are as dumb as a doorknob. Loogy is a
lefty; he's also dumb as a doorknob. You're a moderate righty, and I don't
think you have been accused of being dumb.

You would be pleased to know that in another newsgroup that I infrequently
visit I am considered to be very much to the left. And dumb.

It's all relative.
I admit though, Olbermann personifies the elitist attitude to which I was
referring.
He's not helping unite anybody, that's for sure.

Eisboch

Olbermann is making money, same as O'Reilly -- they're both pompous
asses at their worst and sensible at their best. Glenn Beck is insane
and Sean Hannity is a liar.

What's the other newsgroup, rec.welovehannity, rec.colddeadhands,
alt.armeggeddonnow?

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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:34:09 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Apr 17, 1:12 pm, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:01:45 -0700, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
No word yet on when they will start to be open and keep any of
the promises they made related to their own administration...
Well, of the 500 campaign promises Obama made, PolitiFact.com has him
breaking only six promises, and keeping 5 pages worth. Not bad, IMO
considering he's only been in office 3 months.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

Well, I don't know how they are rating it, or how they are trimming
the info to make it look good, but the important promises such as
"reaching over party lines, bills having 5 days for study, openness
about admin officials and the waivers, no lobbiests in the admin.. the
list goes on, are being ignored...


"The important promises..."

According to who? You? An uneducated dum****?

Yes, when Obama made genuine attempts to embrace the Republicans, they
spit in his face. Eric Cantor got them to agre to vote along party
lines before they even listened to Obama's pitch.

Bi-partisanship was rebuked by the R's. Now they're feeling the same
sick feeling the D's felt - only the R's never invited the D's to
participate. The R's said "**** 'em" as soon as they had the
majority.

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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:15:22 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .


"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.




Thanks for bringing this subject up. I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty lefts
and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are smarter, we
are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct) attitude. It's at
the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints by referring to their
"inferior" status. The words "elitist" and "snob" come to mind very
quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Why should they? They just call opponents gun-grabbers, baby-killers,
socialists or commies. No need to use fancy words.
You can't seriously believe that Hannity/Limbaugh think their ****
stinks more than Olbermann's.


Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

That's for sure. But don't mistake who are the "elitists."
Both sides think they are the true champions, have nothing but
contempt for the other side, and their "leaders" have the little guys
fighting each other. It's good for their business.
Not much different from major league soccer. The guys putting on the
show get rich, and the spectators cry in their beer at losses, cheer
small victories, and occasionally the hooligans riot.
Nothing new.
Your main choice is whether or not to show up for the games.

--Vic

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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:00:41 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:15:22 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..


"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.




Thanks for bringing this subject up. I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty lefts
and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are smarter, we
are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct) attitude. It's at
the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints by referring to their
"inferior" status. The words "elitist" and "snob" come to mind very
quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Why should they? They just call opponents gun-grabbers, baby-killers,
socialists or commies. No need to use fancy words.
You can't seriously believe that Hannity/Limbaugh think their ****
stinks more than Olbermann's.


Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

That's for sure. But don't mistake who are the "elitists."
Both sides think they are the true champions, have nothing but
contempt for the other side, and their "leaders" have the little guys
fighting each other. It's good for their business.
Not much different from major league soccer. The guys putting on the
show get rich, and the spectators cry in their beer at losses, cheer
small victories, and occasionally the hooligans riot.
Nothing new.
Your main choice is whether or not to show up for the games.

--Vic

If you don't show up, you're just another spectator.

What a difference ......
 

On Apr 17, 1:54*pm, wrote:
On Apr 17, 1:50*pm, HK wrote:





Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Most of the "righty rights" here are as dumb as a doorknob. Loogy is a
lefty; he's also dumb as a doorknob. You're a moderate righty, and I
don't think you have been accused of being dumb.

You would be pleased to know that in another newsgroup that I
infrequently visit *I am considered to be very much to the left. * And
dumb.

It's all relative.
I admit though, *Olbermann personifies the elitist attitude to which I
was referring.
He's not helping unite anybody, that's for sure.

Eisboch

I prefer Rachel. More cerebral than Keith, and she answers emails. But I
do watch Keith once or twice a week.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"More cerebral"? LOL... *Just because she toes the party line.. Both
are babbling idiots...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh man, now Harry is trying to get people to believe that he's
corresponding with her!!!!!!
WAFA!!!!!!