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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:52:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
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In fact, companies shouldn't be in the business of being health care
administrators, period.

At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:25:12 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:52:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

In fact, companies shouldn't be in the business of being health care
administrators, period.

At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?

One word...unions.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:25:12 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:52:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

In fact, companies shouldn't be in the business of being health care
administrators, period.

At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?

One word...unions.
--

John H


What a ninny.
If only 8 percent of American workers belong to unions, how come they have
such a great influence?

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:25:12 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?

I guess bad people need health care too.

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:52:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

In fact, companies shouldn't be in the business of being health care
administrators, period.

At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?


Cost. As a fringe benefit the company either paid the premium fully or paid
a major portion of it.
But as the premiums have soared over the past 20 years and the introduction
of HMO's that further escalated costs, group health insurance, as a benefit
in small business has become a significant cost of doing business. For
those in some industries it has become difficult to compete price-wise with
other companies that don't have a health plan benefit.

Another issue is simply the cost and time of administrating the program. We
used to do it through our small HR department, even though it cost the
company money with no financial consideration for the service. I always
thought that Blue Cross should compensate small businesses for
administrating *their* program. Some companies are now being forced to
add a "service charge", just to help cover the cost of administrating the
health program.

Business, especially small ones, should not be in the health insurance
administration business.
It would be far better to pay the employees additional money in their
paycheck and allow them to purchase their own plan. Contrary to what many
believe, you cannot simply "pass on" the cost to the customer in all types
of businesses.

Eisboch

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Don White wrote:
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:25:12 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:52:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

In fact, companies shouldn't be in the business of being health care
administrators, period.
At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?
One word...unions.
--

John H


What a ninny.
If only 8 percent of American workers belong to unions, how come they have
such a great influence?



You have to understand that Herring hid from reality most of his adult
life by staying in the army, and that his opinions were formed in a
simple society in which one always knew one's place. As a substitute
teacher, he may have been a member of a teacher's union, but assuredly
he wasn't an active member, and probably only paid minimal dues so he
could suck down the fringe benefits the union negotiated for all teachers.

In other words, Herring was a bloodsucker. He still is. He's living off
the taxpayers now, and so is his wife.

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"HK" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:25:12 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:52:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

In fact, companies shouldn't be in the business of being health care
administrators, period.
At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?
One word...unions.
--

John H


What a ninny.
If only 8 percent of American workers belong to unions, how come they
have such a great influence?

You have to understand that Herring hid from reality most of his adult
life by staying in the army, and that his opinions were formed in a simple
society in which one always knew one's place. As a substitute teacher, he
may have been a member of a teacher's union, but assuredly he wasn't an
active member, and probably only paid minimal dues so he could suck down
the fringe benefits the union negotiated for all teachers.

In other words, Herring was a bloodsucker. He still is. He's living off
the taxpayers now, and so is his wife.


I recently heard the result of a poll designed to determine how many
non-union workers in various trades would desire to become part of a union
organization if offered the opportunity. The poll included trades typically
involved with unions, included some former union people and was conducted in
a manner that kept their identity totally anonymous to prevent any possible
influence or intimidation by their current employers.

Only 9 percent said "yes".


Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:25:12 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:52:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

In fact, companies shouldn't be in the business of being health care
administrators, period.
At one time health care was a fringe benefit offered by employers to
attract and retain good people. What happened to that concept?
One word...unions.
--

John H


What a ninny.
If only 8 percent of American workers belong to unions, how come they
have such a great influence?

You have to understand that Herring hid from reality most of his adult
life by staying in the army, and that his opinions were formed in a
simple society in which one always knew one's place. As a substitute
teacher, he may have been a member of a teacher's union, but assuredly
he wasn't an active member, and probably only paid minimal dues so he
could suck down the fringe benefits the union negotiated for all
teachers.

In other words, Herring was a bloodsucker. He still is. He's living
off the taxpayers now, and so is his wife.


I recently heard the result of a poll designed to determine how many
non-union workers in various trades would desire to become part of a
union organization if offered the opportunity. The poll included trades
typically involved with unions, included some former union people and
was conducted in a manner that kept their identity totally anonymous to
prevent any possible influence or intimidation by their current employers.

Only 9 percent said "yes".


Eisboch


What has what you heard have to do with Herring's bloodsucking ways?

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"HK" wrote in message
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In other words, Herring was a bloodsucker. He still is. He's living off
the taxpayers now, and so is his wife.


I recently heard the result of a poll designed to determine how many
non-union workers in various trades would desire to become part of a
union organization if offered the opportunity. The poll included trades
typically involved with unions, included some former union people and was
conducted in a manner that kept their identity totally anonymous to
prevent any possible influence or intimidation by their current
employers.

Only 9 percent said "yes".


Eisboch



What has what you heard have to do with Herring's bloodsucking ways?

Wooosh.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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In other words, Herring was a bloodsucker. He still is. He's living
off the taxpayers now, and so is his wife.


I recently heard the result of a poll designed to determine how many
non-union workers in various trades would desire to become part of a
union organization if offered the opportunity. The poll included
trades typically involved with unions, included some former union
people and was conducted in a manner that kept their identity totally
anonymous to prevent any possible influence or intimidation by their
current employers.

Only 9 percent said "yes".


Eisboch



What has what you heard have to do with Herring's bloodsucking ways?

Wooosh.

Eisboch



Not at all. Send me the URL of the poll, if you will.