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huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just
when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! How long did you drive around before you realized it was flat? --Mike |
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 1:03 am, "Mike" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! How long did you drive around before you realized it was flat? --Mike As soon as Harry told him. ************************************************** * You're a born commedian. A couple of hours after returning the dog from his run, I went outside and discovered my flat *in the driveway*. All fixed... Ford Roadside Assistance sent the CAA service truck to help. He used a compressed tank of air to blow the tire back up & followed me to a well established tire shop about three city blocks from my house. They removed the tire, patched it from the inside and sent me on my way for $25.00 CDN....about $20 yankee dollahs. Roofing nail? Whenever I get a flat, the shop usually finds the culprit to be a roofing nail. |
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Don even out your ride flaten the other 3.
"Don White" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! |
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On Mar 24, 8:48*pm, Tim wrote:
huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... Starting here this afternoon, going to rain until Saturday evening. Looks like Lanier will be in good shape, supposed to get 3 to 5 inches in the basin. Because of the mountains, that's a lot of rain into the lake. |
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On Mar 25, 1:03*am, "Mike" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message .... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! How long did you drive around before you realized it was flat? --Mike As soon as Harry told him. |
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"Dry" wrote in message news:Wcpyl.19597$PH1.2387@edtnps82... Don even out your ride flaten the other 3. "Don White" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! Good theory...but it didn't work with the Dope Army. ;-) |
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On Mar 25, 8:59*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Dry" wrote in message news:Wcpyl.19597$PH1.2387@edtnps82... Don even out your ride flaten the other 3. "Don White" wrote in message .. . "Tim" wrote in message .... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! Good theory...but it didn't work with the Dope Army. *;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Isn't it about time you started another lie? The one where you claimed to have facts has left your credibility in the gutter with your lover/ master clone Harry's. |
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wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 1:03 am, "Mike" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! How long did you drive around before you realized it was flat? --Mike As soon as Harry told him. ************************************************** * You're a born commedian. A couple of hours after returning the dog from his run, I went outside and discovered my flat *in the driveway*. All fixed... Ford Roadside Assistance sent the CAA service truck to help. He used a compressed tank of air to blow the tire back up & followed me to a well established tire shop about three city blocks from my house. They removed the tire, patched it from the inside and sent me on my way for $25.00 CDN....about $20 yankee dollahs. |
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On Mar 25, 10:20*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 1:03 am, "Mike" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . "Tim" wrote in message .... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! How long did you drive around before you realized it was flat? --Mike As soon as Harry told him. ************************************************** * You're a born commedian. A couple of hours after returning the dog from his run, I went outside and discovered my flat *in the driveway*. All fixed... Ford Roadside Assistance sent the CAA service truck to help. He used a compressed tank of air to blow the tire back up & followed me to a well established tire shop about three city blocks from my house. They removed the tire, patched it from the inside and sent me on my way for $25.00 CDN....about $20 yankee dollahs.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry, can't believe anything you say anymore, your crediblity is shot. But, it was a simply amazing story....... |
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On Mar 25, 6:28*am, HK wrote:
Don White wrote: wrote in message .... On Mar 25, 1:03 am, "Mike" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. "Tim" wrote in message .... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! How long did you drive around before you realized it was flat? --Mike As soon as Harry told him. ************************************************** * You're a born commedian. A couple of hours after returning the dog from his run, I went outside and discovered my flat *in the driveway*. All fixed... Ford Roadside Assistance sent the CAA service truck to help. He used a compressed tank of air to blow the tire back up & followed me to a well established tire shop about three city blocks from my house. They removed the tire, patched it from the inside and sent me on my way for $25.00 CDN....about $20 yankee dollahs. Roofing nail? Whenever I get a flat, the shop usually finds the culprit to be a roofing nail.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, that's the only thing in the world that will cause a flat tire...... |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 1:03 am, "Mike" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... We just had a good sized snow storm.......... and I discovered a flat tire on my Ranger PU, one week before I unload it..d'oh! How long did you drive around before you realized it was flat? --Mike As soon as Harry told him. ************************************************** * You're a born commedian. A couple of hours after returning the dog from his run, I went outside and discovered my flat *in the driveway*. All fixed... Ford Roadside Assistance sent the CAA service truck to help. He used a compressed tank of air to blow the tire back up & followed me to a well established tire shop about three city blocks from my house. They removed the tire, patched it from the inside and sent me on my way for $25.00 CDN....about $20 yankee dollahs. Roofing nail? Whenever I get a flat, the shop usually finds the culprit to be a roofing nail. The tire guy just said it was a nail....didn't mention what kind. I learned to stay away from new construction. I've been lucky around 2 brother-in-laws houses. They're both in the drywall business and the screws they use are darn sharp. |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:23:45 -0500, gfretwell wrote:
Drywall screws are the usual suspect here. They just seem to be attracted to tires. I was never sure how they got flipped up and driven in but when you pull them out they are always perpendicular to the tread. The fix is usually just shooting in a plug. I know they have a bad reputation but I have never seen one fail and construction people get lots of flats. With all the nail guns, there is always "air" on the job and someone has a tire plug handle in their tool box. Rear tire? Most of my flats tend to be the rear tires. I figure the front tire bounces the point up for the rear tire to catch. Probably not, but still most of my flats tend to be the rear tire. I also use plugs without any problems. |
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On Mar 25, 2:23*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:28:54 -0400, HK wrote: Roofing nail? Whenever I get a flat, the shop usually finds the culprit to be a roofing nail. Drywall screws are the usual suspect here. They just seem to be attracted to tires. I was never sure how they got flipped up and driven in but when you pull them out they are always perpendicular to the tread. The fix is usually just shooting in a plug. I know they have a bad reputation but I have never seen one fail and construction people get lots of flats. With all the nail guns, there is always "air" on the job and someone has a tire plug handle in their tool box. I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. |
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wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch |
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On Mar 25, 2:53*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. *The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. * Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. *Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Yeah, I understand what is normally said about sidewall punctures, but that wasn't the first time I've done it. Besides, with steel belted radials, the belts are actually a structural component of the sidewall and help hold it together. That being said, if I ran a shop where I had liability I wouldn't plug or even patch ANY tire. |
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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride. ~~ Snerk ~~ |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride. ~~ Snerk ~~ I didn't post what I posted as an insult. It was meant to be informative. However, some people will take any and every opportunity, I guess. Eisboch |
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On Mar 24, 8:48*pm, Tim wrote:
huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... Yeah, the weather has been a PITA. I took delivery of our new boat a little over two week ago, and the weather that day was 86 degrees. Since then, it's been cool, windy, rainy, or all three. Looked like this weekend was going to be nice, but now it's forecast to be rainy and breezy. Next week is looking up, though! |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride. ~~ Snerk ~~ There ya go donny, right on cue as usual. Good doggy. Now go off and play... --Mike |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:01:30 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: I've had at least one roofing nail, a wood screw and even a couple small machine thread screws. Yep, I say every time "How in the hell did that happen"? I used to go to a tire shop up north that had a jar on the countertop filled with strange stuff that they had taken out of tires. Most of it was totally unbelievable. There is something about the dynamic of a rolling tire that picks things up in a very counterintuitive way. |
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On Mar 25, 3:10*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: wrote in message .... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. *The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. * Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. *Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. |
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:23 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: I used to go to a tire shop up north that had a jar on the countertop filled with strange stuff that they had taken out of tires. Most of it was totally unbelievable. There is something about the dynamic of a rolling tire that picks things up in a very counterintuitive way. I remember when you didn't need to hit anything to have a flat. Sometimes a chunk the size of your hand would blow out of the tread with a bang. Driving with both hands on the wheel was popular in those days. Then they came up with tubeless tires and blowouts didn't happen any more. So much for the good old days. Tires are much better now. Casady |
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wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** ************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others? |
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On Mar 24, 6:48*pm, Tim wrote:
huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... That's strange. The weather radars said there was going to be heavy rain for the next two days, but it had quit about midnight, and yesterday was sunny, then coudy and windy, then cleared off in the evening. Today it's absolutly beautiful outside. No clouds, and no heavy, lingering jet vapor trails. odd. |
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On Mar 26, 10:07*am, Tim wrote:
On Mar 24, 6:48*pm, Tim wrote: huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... That's strange. The weather radars said there was going to be heavy rain for the next two days, but it had quit about midnight, and yesterday was sunny, then coudy and windy, then cleared off in the evening. Today it's absolutly beautiful outside. No clouds, and no heavy, lingering *jet vapor trails. odd. It's raining hard here, going to today, tomorrow and Saturday. Oh, and Harry will like this, because of recent rains, and the lake being down, the addition of good aerated water to Lanier has made the water quality better than it's been in 15 years!! |
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On Mar 26, 9:03*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message .... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** *************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. |
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wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** *************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. ------------------------------------------------------------- The potential tire problems you list are correct, but does it make sense to exacerbate the problem with a plug or patch in the side wall? |
Tire plugs (was rain)
D.Duck wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** *************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. ------------------------------------------------------------- The potential tire problems you list are correct, but does it make sense to exacerbate the problem with a plug or patch in the side wall? It does to Loogy...he figures if his sidewall blows out and the resulting accident ends up killing someone on the sidewalk or in another car, well, they should have stayed at home, rather than take the risks of being on the same road as he as. Loogy is telling the world he is an irresponsible asshole, something, I am sure, the world around him already knows. |
Tire plugs (was rain)
On Mar 26, 10:45*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message .... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** **************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. ------------------------------------------------------------- The potential tire problems you list are correct, but does it make sense to exacerbate the problem with a plug or patch in the side wall?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No more than you'd want to exacerbate the problem of the #1 reason for catastrophic failure, tread seperation, by overloading, overheating, under/over inflation, etc. If you subscribe to what you are saying above, then you'd sure buy a lot of tires. Every time you see a blemish, a piece of tread torn a little from a pebble, and on and on...... |
Tire plugs (was rain)
On Mar 26, 11:00*am, HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message .... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** **************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. ------------------------------------------------------------- The potential tire problems you list are correct, but does it make sense to exacerbate the problem with a plug or patch in the side wall? It does to Loogy...he figures if his sidewall blows out and the resulting accident ends up killing someone on the sidewalk or in another car, well, they should have stayed at home, rather than take the risks of being on the same road as he as. Where did I say that, idiot? Using your idiot blather, one would have to put a new set of tires on their vehicle every time they left the driveway. And to think you've tried to tell people here you've got a mechanical engineering degree!!!! Impossible. You're too scared to make any mechanical decision. Loogy is telling the world he is an irresponsible asshole, something, I am sure, the world around him already knows.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, I'm telling the world that I understand tire makeup. Do you have any data about catastrophic tire failure? Number one reason, delamination (seperation). You'd better not drive, because you can't usually tell that's going to happen until it does. |
Tire plugs (was rain)
wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 10:45 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** **************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. ------------------------------------------------------------- The potential tire problems you list are correct, but does it make sense to exacerbate the problem with a plug or patch in the side wall?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No more than you'd want to exacerbate the problem of the #1 reason for catastrophic failure, tread seperation, by overloading, overheating, under/over inflation, etc. If you subscribe to what you are saying above, then you'd sure buy a lot of tires. Every time you see a blemish, a piece of tread torn a little from a pebble, and on and on...... ================================== I don't overload and I watch the tire inflation. The rest of your *reasoning* doesn't make sense. I do not intentionally do something to the tires that can cause a problem. |
Tire plugs (was rain)
D.Duck wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 10:45 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** **************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. ------------------------------------------------------------- The potential tire problems you list are correct, but does it make sense to exacerbate the problem with a plug or patch in the side wall?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No more than you'd want to exacerbate the problem of the #1 reason for catastrophic failure, tread seperation, by overloading, overheating, under/over inflation, etc. If you subscribe to what you are saying above, then you'd sure buy a lot of tires. Every time you see a blemish, a piece of tread torn a little from a pebble, and on and on...... ================================== I don't overload and I watch the tire inflation. The rest of your *reasoning* doesn't make sense. I do not intentionally do something to the tires that can cause a problem. You will soon tire of this *badinage* with Loogy, Ducky. But he won't. :) |
Tire plugs (was rain)
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... I don't overload and I watch the tire inflation. The rest of your *reasoning* doesn't make sense. I do not intentionally do something to the tires that can cause a problem. To me, tires are the most important part of a car. Anyone who has experienced a blow out at highway speeds understands why. Tires are now date coded and it is recommended that they be replaced no more than 6 years from the date of manufacture, regardless of how much tread wear is left. Tooling down the road at highway speeds knowing that you have a fault or damage (plugged or not) to a side wall is like taking off for a cruise 30 miles offshore in your boat knowing that you have a serious leak somewhere in the hull or have an engine that has been acting up. Just doesn't make sense to me. Eisboch |
Tire plugs (was rain)
D.Duck wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 1:08 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 10:45 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 3:10 pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I've been plugging my own tires (yes, steel belt radials) since I can remember. I've NEVER had one fail. And that myth about not using them in sidewalls? I had a puncture in the sidewall of my Jeep tire, plugged it, ran it for 25,000 miles. It never failed, the tire tread wore out. ----------------------------------- I'd say you were lucky. Using a plug in the tread section of a tire is not a big deal because the failure mode, (if it fails) is typically a slow leak that is noticeable. The problem with using them in the sidewall isn't associated with the plug. It's the risk that the damage to the sidewall of the tire itself (from the original cut or hole) compromises the sidewall strength of the tire. The failure mode is likely to be a sudden and catastrophic blowout and immediate deflation. Not something you want to happen tooling down the highway at 65 mph. Tends to send vehicles end over end. Reputable garages will refuse to even attempt to fix a tire with sidewall damage. Eisboch Just about every legit site on auto repair and tire repair tells readers NOT to plug sidewalls. I'd nominate Loogy for a Darwin Award, but he'd probably put it on his mantel and point to it with pride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Psssst, idiot alert! I've plugged more tires than you've ever seen. Also, notice that I said that if I owned and operated a repair shop, I wouldn't do it. It's a liability issue. I wouldn't plug a tire PERIOD if I had liability. No matter where, technically a plug is a temporary fix. ************************************************** ***************************** mmm....... ifyou feel that way..what about your family...driving in that old Jeep with the sidewall plug. How about the other innocent motorists you might run into after losing control of your vehicle during a blowout. Do you only care for financial liabilities and not the health & welfare of others?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just like Harry! You'd better get yourself into your hermetically sealed room so no danger can come about...... What an idiot! You DO realize that a tire can catastrophically blow because of any NUMBER of reasons besides a plug or patch, don't you? SO, YOU are putting your family at risk every time you drive, even if it's a brand new tire. I've seen it all. Bead rip off of a tire. Hit something like a the piece of sheet steel I was talking about earlier. Tread seperation (the LEADING cause of catastrophic tire failure), and on and on. Therefore, if you drive a vehicle with mass produced tires, the exact same questions could be asked of YOU. ------------------------------------------------------------- The potential tire problems you list are correct, but does it make sense to exacerbate the problem with a plug or patch in the side wall?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No more than you'd want to exacerbate the problem of the #1 reason for catastrophic failure, tread seperation, by overloading, overheating, under/over inflation, etc. If you subscribe to what you are saying above, then you'd sure buy a lot of tires. Every time you see a blemish, a piece of tread torn a little from a pebble, and on and on...... ================================== I don't overload and I watch the tire inflation. The rest of your *reasoning* doesn't make sense. I do not intentionally do something to the tires that can cause a problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And what do you do about tire seperation? That is the single most reason for catastrophic tire failure. Do you make sure that you don't drive on a surface that may have a pothole, a failed bridge expansion joint, etc.? These are culprits, too! ================================== You win..... snerk |
Raining like crazy here.....
On Mar 26, 8:29*am, wrote:
On Mar 26, 10:07*am, Tim wrote: On Mar 24, 6:48*pm, Tim wrote: huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... That's strange. The weather radars said there was going to be heavy rain for the next two days, but it had quit about midnight, and yesterday was sunny, then coudy and windy, then cleared off in the evening. Today it's absolutly beautiful outside. No clouds, and no heavy, lingering *jet vapor trails. odd. It's raining hard here, going to today, tomorrow and Saturday. Oh, and Harry will like this, because of recent rains, and the lake being down, the addition of good aerated water to Lanier has made the water quality better than it's been in 15 years!! Good! I'd say that with combinations ofvarious factors it's making an improvement. Like when it was way low, it's possible that a lot of oxygen sucking algae was killed off. So, I can see that would be an improvement. When ithe water was really low in several places it looked to me like you could walk way out into the lake. Did anybody clean out any of the old refrigerators, and boat motors off the bottom? |
Raining like crazy here.....
Tim wrote:
On Mar 26, 8:29 am, wrote: On Mar 26, 10:07 am, Tim wrote: On Mar 24, 6:48 pm, Tim wrote: huge front rolling in. It may rain for a couple days... *ugh* just when it was starting to feel nice, too. Looks like "April showers" are coming a bit soon. Oh well..... That's strange. The weather radars said there was going to be heavy rain for the next two days, but it had quit about midnight, and yesterday was sunny, then coudy and windy, then cleared off in the evening. Today it's absolutly beautiful outside. No clouds, and no heavy, lingering jet vapor trails. odd. It's raining hard here, going to today, tomorrow and Saturday. Oh, and Harry will like this, because of recent rains, and the lake being down, the addition of good aerated water to Lanier has made the water quality better than it's been in 15 years!! Good! I'd say that with combinations ofvarious factors it's making an improvement. Like when it was way low, it's possible that a lot of oxygen sucking algae was killed off. So, I can see that would be an improvement. When ithe water was really low in several places it looked to me like you could walk way out into the lake. Did anybody clean out any of the old refrigerators, and boat motors off the bottom? And the bodies. |
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