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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:12:56 -0500, HK wrote:

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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:24:08 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:01:01 -0600, Vic Smith
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The Everglades boat looked a bit top-heavy anyway, and rafts look to
be about 60-100 lbs, depending.
It is ironic that very few boats under 35 ft carry life rafts but they
are the ones that most need them. There are soft pack rafts that
weigh less than 50 lbs. All life rafts however have a significant
hidden expense: They must be repacked and recertified every 1 to 3
years depending on the manufacturer and model.

It's part of the same logic that leads people to think that a smaller
boat needs smaller bilgepumps.




Indeed.

One aspect of the Parkers I've owned that I appreciated is their
bone-dry bilges. Unless I open a hatch and pour water down into it, I
don't seem to get any water into the bilges of my 21-footer. There's no
liner. I supposed if I started filling up the center console, at some
point water would go down the rigging tubes into the bilge, but that
doesn't happen a whole lot.

So far the only person who has said he carries a life raft is Wayne.
Expected given the size of his boat.
Gfretwell doesn't go offshore - I think.
But though it appears to be a good idea carrying one if you go
offshore, I expect hardly any small boaters will equip them.
What sold me the most on it being a good idea is that it would have
saved the football guys from what killed them - hypothermia.
And in not really cold water.
Guess it just depends on your outlook about boating safety.

--Vic



Depends where you boat. Here in the San Francisco area, most small
boaters that go offshore, go maybe 8 miles at most for 98% of the fishing,
and there is always a fleet when the fishing is on. The only boats that
go 30 miles offshore for tuna without a group running are 30+' foot boats
and they normally have EPIRB. so if someone gets in trouble, there are
other boats about. But as an aquaintance found out when flipping his BW
13. **** happens. Luckily the 3 climbed on the bottom and were found by
a commercial crab boat at dusk. They did not have a ditch bag and the
handheld VHF went to the bottom. We have cold water here. 48-55 year
round. So survival is a couple hours at most in the water. I have the
birthday present list one of the floating ditch bags from West Marine.
They velcro to the boat, and should be easy to get if the boat swamps.
Part of the liferaft requirement is where you boat and how many other
boats you run with.

I have my handheld VHF + GPS + signal whistle attached to my PFD.......
the PFD is attached to me.
If anyone is within a 4 - 5 mile range I should be ok. (assuming they have a
VHF turned on to channel 16 or even 12)

Don White wrote:

I have my handheld VHF + GPS + signal whistle attached to my PFD.......
the PFD is attached to me.
If anyone is within a 4 - 5 mile range I should be ok. (assuming they have a
VHF turned on to channel 16 or even 12)



Amazing stuff. Got a good whistle on board that vessel, dummy?

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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:26:48 -0500, D K
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Don White wrote:

I have my handheld VHF + GPS + signal whistle attached to my PFD.......
the PFD is attached to me.
If anyone is within a 4 - 5 mile range I should be ok. (assuming they
have a
VHF turned on to channel 16 or even 12)



Amazing stuff. Got a good whistle on board that vessel, dummy?


Do you guys have a couple of those horns you pit a piece of cellophane
on to make the noise? Those suckers are the loudest thing I have seen
if you don't have air horns. They are louder than the freon can horn
and they are so low tech they will always work. I keep some plastic
wrap in the first aid kits anyway and that works great on these horns
if the one in there gets damaged.

Sure do!
http://ca.binnacle.com/product_info....oducts_id=2331

On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:32:43 -0400, "Don White"
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:26:48 -0500, D K
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Don White wrote:

I have my handheld VHF + GPS + signal whistle attached to my PFD.......
the PFD is attached to me.
If anyone is within a 4 - 5 mile range I should be ok. (assuming they
have a
VHF turned on to channel 16 or even 12)



Amazing stuff. Got a good whistle on board that vessel, dummy?


Do you guys have a couple of those horns you pit a piece of cellophane
on to make the noise? Those suckers are the loudest thing I have seen
if you don't have air horns. They are louder than the freon can horn
and they are so low tech they will always work. I keep some plastic
wrap in the first aid kits anyway and that works great on these horns
if the one in there gets damaged.

Sure do!
http://ca.binnacle.com/product_info....oducts_id=2331


Just the thing for signaling that you are having an asthma attack and
need help.

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On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:32:43 -0400, "Don White"
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:26:48 -0500, D K
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Don White wrote:

I have my handheld VHF + GPS + signal whistle attached to my
PFD.......
the PFD is attached to me.
If anyone is within a 4 - 5 mile range I should be ok. (assuming they
have a
VHF turned on to channel 16 or even 12)



Amazing stuff. Got a good whistle on board that vessel, dummy?


Do you guys have a couple of those horns you pit a piece of cellophane
on to make the noise? Those suckers are the loudest thing I have seen
if you don't have air horns. They are louder than the freon can horn
and they are so low tech they will always work. I keep some plastic
wrap in the first aid kits anyway and that works great on these horns
if the one in there gets damaged.

Sure do!
http://ca.binnacle.com/product_info....oducts_id=2331


Just the thing for signaling that you are having an asthma attack and
need help.


That could be tricky. I also have a couple of compressed air horns.
Both given to me... one from a former co-worker that uses the canned air and
Tom gave me one with the little airpump and soda type, liter sized bottle

Don White wrote:
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On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:32:43 -0400, "Don White"
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:26:48 -0500, D K
wrote:

Don White wrote:

I have my handheld VHF + GPS + signal whistle attached to my
PFD.......
the PFD is attached to me.
If anyone is within a 4 - 5 mile range I should be ok. (assuming they
have a
VHF turned on to channel 16 or even 12)


Amazing stuff. Got a good whistle on board that vessel, dummy?

Do you guys have a couple of those horns you pit a piece of cellophane
on to make the noise? Those suckers are the loudest thing I have seen
if you don't have air horns. They are louder than the freon can horn
and they are so low tech they will always work. I keep some plastic
wrap in the first aid kits anyway and that works great on these horns
if the one in there gets damaged.
Sure do!
http://ca.binnacle.com/product_info....oducts_id=2331

Just the thing for signaling that you are having an asthma attack and
need help.


That could be tricky. I also have a couple of compressed air horns.
Both given to me... one from a former co-worker that uses the canned air and
Tom gave me one with the little airpump and soda type, liter sized bottle



Amazing!