On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic



You think he should be able to predict precisely how many employees at a
company would be hired back?

Absurd.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:24:41 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic



You think he should be able to predict precisely how many employees at a
company would be hired back?

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Absurd.

What's absurd?

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:24:41 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Speaking of the subject header ....

Happened to note that although President Obama stated several times that
passage of the stimulus would enable Caterpillar to re-hire some of it's
laid-off employees and repeating it again while visiting the Caterpillar
plant while gesturing towards Owens, Caterpillar's president, Owens seemed
to contradict Obama's statement shortly afterward.

After Obama departed from the plant visit, Owens was asked if passage now
meant he would re-hire some laid off employees. His answer was, "In all
honesty, no." He indicated that there was a long ways to go and that in
reality there will likely be more lay-offs before any re-hiring can begin.

Failure to communicate? Something screwy here.

Maybe just pure BS.
I noted that BO said something like "this stimulus will allow Cat to
hire back some of the laid off workers."
What does "some" mean?
One? Two? Hundreds?
Any time a pol uses non-specific language, he is blowing hot air.

--Vic


You think he should be able to predict precisely how many employees at a
company would be hired back?

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.


Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:


No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.


Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

On Feb 13, 11:42*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power. Funny how it's only the four
furthest lefties here that are known for their constant lies too...

wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:42 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.
Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.
Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic

Seems to be a fault of the "far left".. No moral core, no honor or
concern for truthfulness, only power.

You are so delusional you constantly project your shortcomings here.
*You* have no moral core, no honor, no concern for truthfulness. You
bite on something about someone else, and then you turn it into
something else, and you are so ****ed in the head, you actually
*believe* what you have posted.

You really are a low-life. Everything about you screams it.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:


No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.


Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic\

I am not casting any stones. Maybe the CAT president lied to Obama. Maybe
he changed his mind.
All I know is that it was unusual for Obama to say it, then have the CAT
president basically deny it.

I caught a bit of body language I think, when I watched the video. When
Obama made the statement that "Jim, over there" told me that passage of the
stimulus package will allow him to re-hire some of the laid-off workers",
he did so with gesture and look that suggested, "Back me up here"....
Just my opinion.

Eisboch

somethin' is not right here....


On Feb 13, 10:21*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic\

I am not casting any stones. *Maybe the CAT president lied to Obama. *Maybe
he changed his mind.
All I know is that it was unusual for Obama to say it, then have the CAT
president basically deny it.

I caught a bit of body language I think, when I watched the video. *When
Obama made the statement that "Jim, over there" told me that passage of the
stimulus package will allow him to re-hire some of the laid-off workers",
he did so with gesture and look that suggested, "Back me up here"....
Just my opinion.

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On Feb 13, 12:21*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:55:00 -0500, HK wrote:

No, he should have kept his mouth shut about it.
Because he didn't know.
Even using the word "possibility" or "hopefully"would have worked.
Look where he is now, being called a liar.

Only by the right-wing trashmeisters. No one cares about them.

Well, I'm not one of them, and my BS meter needle jerked when he said
that. *It was unnecessary.
Nobody likes being fed a line of BS.
It wasn't prudent.

--Vic\

I am not casting any stones. *Maybe the CAT president lied to Obama. *Maybe
he changed his mind.
All I know is that it was unusual for Obama to say it, then have the CAT
president basically deny it.

I caught a bit of body language I think, when I watched the video. *When
Obama made the statement that "Jim, over there" told me that passage of the
stimulus package will allow him to re-hire some of the laid-off workers",
he did so with gesture and look that suggested, "Back me up here"....
Just my opinion.

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Body language indeed.. If you listen to Obama carefully, he changes
his dialect a bit when he is lying, he cuts off his words kind of says
them staccato... It is interesting, I noticed it last year first, and
continued to notice it up until the present. I noticed it in the south
when I lived down there, mostly with salesmen...