On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:38:58 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:46:07 -0500, BAR wrote:


Infrastructure does not produce long term jobs. You can't keep pulling
money out of the economy and put it into infrastructure projects because
one day you will have no one to use the infrastructure. And, no more
economy to pull more money from.

Yeah, but it does produce jobs. Building and maintaining infrastructure
is a fundamental role of government, and one that we have been ignoring
of late. A lot of this stimulus package are projects the government
should be doing anyway.

The problem has to do with the other 85%.

Four hundred thousand new government jobs?

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is not going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your grand children
from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.

No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a depression.

Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the recession
last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama with his pessimistic,
gloom and doom attitude isn't doing much to lead the country forward.
He's got everyone scared, hoarding cash and staying home. All the
wrong things. Congress sees this as an opportunity to fund pet
projects to stimulate their re-election campaign contributions.


Obama is dishing out reality.

Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired no one. In
fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has left most wondering if
he is up to the task of being president.



Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the fence are
the minority opinion. The majority of Americans are pleased with Obama.
Maybe you can sell that crap to the Rush crowd.

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:33:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:46:07 -0500, BAR wrote:


Infrastructure does not produce long term jobs. You can't keep pulling
money out of the economy and put it into infrastructure projects because
one day you will have no one to use the infrastructure. And, no more
economy to pull more money from.
Yeah, but it does produce jobs. Building and maintaining infrastructure
is a fundamental role of government, and one that we have been ignoring
of late. A lot of this stimulus package are projects the government
should be doing anyway.
Where has all of the money gone that was collected in the form of taxes
that was to pay for the upkeep of the existing infrastructure? All of my
gasoline taxes did they get co-mingled in the general fund of the
federal government and the state governments?


In Connecticut, many administrations in the past 40 years (mostly
republican) simply ignored infrastructure in order to appear to have a
balanced budget. Does "Mianus River Bridge" ring a bell? It should.

Deferred maintenance always comes back to bite you, and the eventual
cost is much higher than if it had been done when it was supposed to
be done.

Connecticut currently has MAJOR bridges that are in extremely poor
condition. Big chunks of concrete falling off, pins rusted through,
etc. Been that way for a LONG time. The current Governor (another
Rethuglican) hasn't done anythng to change that situation. She doesn't
want to fix bridges if it interferes with her imaginary "balanced
budget"




That would be the Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota solution...wait until the
bridge falls into the river.

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:25:35 -0500, BAR wrote:

Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired no one. In
fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has left most wondering if
he is up to the task of being president.


That must explain his extremely high approval ratings!


BAR "knows" this because he heard a quote from the Washington Times on
his car radio.

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:56:45 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:33:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:46:07 -0500, BAR wrote:


Infrastructure does not produce long term jobs. You can't keep pulling
money out of the economy and put it into infrastructure projects because
one day you will have no one to use the infrastructure. And, no more
economy to pull more money from.
Yeah, but it does produce jobs. Building and maintaining infrastructure
is a fundamental role of government, and one that we have been ignoring
of late. A lot of this stimulus package are projects the government
should be doing anyway.
Where has all of the money gone that was collected in the form of taxes
that was to pay for the upkeep of the existing infrastructure? All of my
gasoline taxes did they get co-mingled in the general fund of the
federal government and the state governments?

In Connecticut, many administrations in the past 40 years (mostly
republican) simply ignored infrastructure in order to appear to have a
balanced budget. Does "Mianus River Bridge" ring a bell? It should.

Deferred maintenance always comes back to bite you, and the eventual
cost is much higher than if it had been done when it was supposed to
be done.

Connecticut currently has MAJOR bridges that are in extremely poor
condition. Big chunks of concrete falling off, pins rusted through,
etc. Been that way for a LONG time. The current Governor (another
Rethuglican) hasn't done anythng to change that situation. She doesn't
want to fix bridges if it interferes with her imaginary "balanced
budget"



That would be the Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota solution...wait until the
bridge falls into the river.

In Connecticut, they figure that it's a lot cheaper to work on bridges
when they are on the ground!


Safer, too. No scaffolding to fall off of into the cold water.

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is not going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your grand children
from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.

No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a depression.

Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the recession
last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama with his pessimistic,
gloom and doom attitude isn't doing much to lead the country
forward. He's got everyone scared, hoarding cash and staying home.
All the wrong things. Congress sees this as an opportunity to fund
pet projects to stimulate their re-election campaign contributions.


Obama is dishing out reality.

Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired no one. In
fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has left most wondering
if he is up to the task of being president.



Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the fence are
the minority opinion. The majority of Americans are pleased with Obama.
Maybe you can sell that crap to the Rush crowd.

Why is your side pushing so hard to squash free speech. What are you
afraid of, the truth?

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is not going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your grand children
from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.

No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a depression.

Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the recession
last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama with his pessimistic,
gloom and doom attitude isn't doing much to lead the country
forward. He's got everyone scared, hoarding cash and staying home.
All the wrong things. Congress sees this as an opportunity to fund
pet projects to stimulate their re-election campaign contributions.


Obama is dishing out reality.

Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired no one.
In fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has left most
wondering if he is up to the task of being president.



Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the fence are
the minority opinion. The majority of Americans are pleased with
Obama. Maybe you can sell that crap to the Rush crowd.

Why is your side pushing so hard to squash free speech. What are you
afraid of, the truth?



is someone trying to shut you up?

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:26:22 -0500, BAR wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:33:46 -0500, BAR wrote:


Where has all of the money gone that was collected in the form of taxes
that was to pay for the upkeep of the existing infrastructure? All of my
gasoline taxes did they get co-mingled in the general fund of the
federal government and the state governments?

Why do I have to pay three, four and five times for the same thing?
Legislators, bureaucrats and judges should be in jail.
Shouldn't you be asking that question of George Bush? He's the man who
was in charge the past eight years. Obama has only been President for 3
weeks.
I was an asshole when Clinton was in office too.


Yeah, we get that.

Nice edit job Harry Jr.

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is not going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your grand
children from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.

No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a depression.

Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the recession
last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama with his pessimistic,
gloom and doom attitude isn't doing much to lead the country
forward. He's got everyone scared, hoarding cash and staying home.
All the wrong things. Congress sees this as an opportunity to fund
pet projects to stimulate their re-election campaign contributions.


Obama is dishing out reality.

Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired no one.
In fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has left most
wondering if he is up to the task of being president.



Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the fence
are the minority opinion. The majority of Americans are pleased with
Obama. Maybe you can sell that crap to the Rush crowd.

Why is your side pushing so hard to squash free speech. What are you
afraid of, the truth?



is someone trying to shut you up?

Yes. The Democrats.

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:16:48 -0500, BAR wrote:


Me simple? Laundering money through the government is not going to
create wealth, create long term jobs and save your grand
children from a
life of 80 to 90 percent income taxes.

No, but it may stave off this recession becoming a depression.

Congress and Obama are working their hardest to make the
recession last longer with this "stimulus" bill. Obama with his
pessimistic, gloom and doom attitude isn't doing much to lead the
country forward. He's got everyone scared, hoarding cash and
staying home. All the wrong things. Congress sees this as an
opportunity to fund pet projects to stimulate their re-election
campaign contributions.


Obama is dishing out reality.

Obama is a poor leader. Since taking office he has inspired no one.
In fact his mis-handling of his cabinet nominees has left most
wondering if he is up to the task of being president.



Sorry, bozo, but your opinions and those on your side of the fence
are the minority opinion. The majority of Americans are pleased with
Obama. Maybe you can sell that crap to the Rush crowd.

Why is your side pushing so hard to squash free speech. What are you
afraid of, the truth?



is someone trying to shut you up?

Yes. The Democrats.



Really? Are Democrats coming to your door, ringing your bell, and asking
you if you have found reality?