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Eisboch wrote:

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Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it
onto a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista
as the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."


Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly
a completely new OS install?

Eisboch


Dunno. Haven't even looked at the MS web page on it yet. My guess is
that it'll upgrade a VISTA or it'll do a fresh install.


It's funny. Due to all the horror stories I had heard about Vista, I
was very hesitant to go with it on this new computer. I tried to pay
attention to recommendations regarding RAM, etc. and made sure it had
4GB and was the 64 bit version.

So far, I haven't had a single serious hiccup. In fact, only once did a
program (I think it was InfanView) temporarily "lock up" and deliver a
"program is not responding" message, but as I was reading it, it
automatically cleared itself and continued running. That's the only
time I've seen any sort of glitch and it went away by itself.

Eisboch


I've never had any serious VISTA problems, and I was there at the
beginning.

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Eisboch wrote:

"Jim749293432" wrote in message
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do
via Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned
it onto a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run
Vista as the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."


Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it
strictly a completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is a completely new OS, but is really just a improvement
over Vista, vs a major upgrade. It is basically Windows Vista with
the memory hog problems solved and to improve on the Windows Security
system so it will not be as aggravating. It is designed to be what
Vista should have been and suppossedly will run faster than both
Vista and XP on similar machines.

I think the MAC is a great machine, but I will be waiting on Windows
7 SP1 to upgrade my computer.

I have 3 machines with XP SP3 on them and they all have Windows 7.0 on
them. What exactly is Vista? What exactly is Windows 7.0? Did M-soft
slip Vista into my systems without my knowlege?


Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?


The latter I would bet.

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Eisboch wrote:

"Jim7495632085" wrote in message
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Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.



Hardly.

Meanwhile, we are iced in, frozen in, boxed in and penned in with more
snow coming Monday/Tuesday.

This has been one of the most miserable winters up here in many years.

Today it is warm (45), but only for a brief amount of time before the
deep freeze comes back.
It's enough to melt the first inch of ice or so before everything
re-freezes.


Eisboch


62F here right now.

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Eisboch wrote:

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Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.



Hardly.

Meanwhile, we are iced in, frozen in, boxed in and penned in with more
snow coming Monday/Tuesday.

This has been one of the most miserable winters up here in many years.

Today it is warm (45), but only for a brief amount of time before the
deep freeze comes back.
It's enough to melt the first inch of ice or so before everything
re-freezes.


Eisboch


62F here right now.

69F here. And I ain't goin' outside.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."


Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is Vista regurgitated. Not much difference. Marketing ploy
really, they messed up with Vista so fix a few things and a new name.

Why someone would buy a Mac and run Vista eludes me.

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto
a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."


Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch


Dunno. Haven't even looked at the MS web page on it yet. My guess is
that it'll upgrade a VISTA or it'll do a fresh install.


It's funny. Due to all the horror stories I had heard about Vista, I was
very hesitant to go with it on this new computer. I tried to pay
attention to recommendations regarding RAM, etc. and made sure it had 4GB
and was the 64 bit version.

So far, I haven't had a single serious hiccup. In fact, only once did a
program (I think it was InfanView) temporarily "lock up" and deliver a
"program is not responding" message, but as I was reading it, it
automatically cleared itself and continued running. That's the only
time I've seen any sort of glitch and it went away by itself.

Eisboch


I've never had any serious VISTA problems, and I was there at the
beginning.

Actually, for light use, Vista is OK. Have it on one of my PCs.

Most of the bad press on Vista relates to performance. In motor terms Vista
us a 4 cyl that gets 2 mpg. You can put a lot of CPU/system to it and it
performs like a slug. While if you are just doing surfing or email, you
would never know the difference, try a large file transfer disk to disk or
network to/from a disk and compare to a Mac, Linux or even XP. You will
find Vista is slow like pig.

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Most of the bad press on Vista relates to performance. In motor terms
Vista us a 4 cyl that gets 2 mpg. You can put a lot of CPU/system to it
and it performs like a slug. While if you are just doing surfing or
email, you would never know the difference, try a large file transfer disk
to disk or network to/from a disk and compare to a Mac, Linux or even XP.
You will find Vista is slow like pig.



Maybe I just don't run any really memory extensive programs. I can only
compare a few that I consider to be memory extensive and so far Vista with
4GB of RAM seems to be a little faster and smoother running than my older XP
computer (with 3GB RAM) running the same thing. For example, running
flight simulator in Google Earth. I think that's fairly memory extensive.

The other thing is that the Vista computer boots up and shuts down a heck of
a lot faster than the XP computer. Both are HP laptops. Maybe the
difference is the CPU. The new computer is a dual core (or whatever they
call it), 64 bit processor. I think the XP is a single chip, 32 bit.

I don't know if a computer with Vista purchased recently is any different
than the early Vista releases. All I know is so far I am very happy with
it. In fact, I like it better than the XP which seems "clunky" by
comparison now.

I reserve the right to change my mind in the future. :-)

Eisboch

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"Jim749293432" wrote in message
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto
a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as
the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."


Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly
a completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is a completely new OS, but is really just a improvement over
Vista, vs a major upgrade. It is basically Windows Vista with the
memory hog problems solved and to improve on the Windows Security
system so it will not be as aggravating. It is designed to be what
Vista should have been and suppossedly will run faster than both Vista
and XP on similar machines.

I think the MAC is a great machine, but I will be waiting on Windows 7
SP1 to upgrade my computer.

I have 3 machines with XP SP3 on them and they all have Windows 7.0 on
them. What exactly is Vista? What exactly is Windows 7.0? Did M-soft
slip Vista into my systems without my knowlege?


Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?


The latter I would bet.

IE 8 is integrated into Windows 7 beta

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"Jim7495632085" wrote in message
...


Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.



Hardly.

Meanwhile, we are iced in, frozen in, boxed in and penned in with
more snow coming Monday/Tuesday.

This has been one of the most miserable winters up here in many years.

Today it is warm (45), but only for a brief amount of time before the
deep freeze comes back.
It's enough to melt the first inch of ice or so before everything
re-freezes.


Eisboch


62F here right now.

69F here. And I ain't goin' outside.

Eisboch


Good one.

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Canuck57 wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is Vista regurgitated. Not much difference. Marketing ploy
really, they messed up with Vista so fix a few things and a new name.

Why someone would buy a Mac and run Vista eludes me.



The simple answer is that there are a few apps I use without Mac
equivalents. Windows runs just as well on a Mac through bootcamp as it
does on a plain old PC that does not run the Mac OS.