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HK	February 1st 09 04:58 PM

Pulled the trigger on a new...

Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be "server-ized."

Eisboch[_4_]

February 1st 09 05:11 PM

Pulled the trigger on a new...

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon, but
nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that significant
to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are more into
computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be "server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

HK	February 1st 09 05:15 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_4_]

February 1st 09 05:29 PM

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto
a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is a completely new OS, but is really just a improvement over
Vista, vs a major upgrade. It is basically Windows Vista with the
memory hog problems solved and to improve on the Windows Security system
so it will not be as aggravating. It is designed to be what Vista
should have been and suppossedly will run faster than both Vista and XP
on similar machines.

I think the MAC is a great machine, but I will be waiting on Windows 7
SP1 to upgrade my computer.

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Eisboch[_4_]

February 1st 09 05:36 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Dunno. Haven't even looked at the MS web page on it yet. My guess is that
it'll upgrade a VISTA or it'll do a fresh install.

It's funny. Due to all the horror stories I had heard about Vista, I was
very hesitant to go with it on this new computer. I tried to pay attention
to recommendations regarding RAM, etc. and made sure it had 4GB and was the
64 bit version.

So far, I haven't had a single serious hiccup. In fact, only once did a
program (I think it was InfanView) temporarily "lock up" and deliver a
"program is not responding" message, but as I was reading it, it
automatically cleared itself and continued running. That's the only time
I've seen any sort of glitch and it went away by itself.

Eisboch

[email protected]

February 1st 09 06:28 PM

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On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:15:54 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto
a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Dunno. Haven't even looked at the MS web page on it yet. My guess is
that it'll upgrade a VISTA or it'll do a fresh install.

Either way, MS betas for operating systems always "expire" when the
final version is released. You have to completely remove them to
install a licensed version. Unless you really need to have the beta
for software developnment, it's foolish to install it on a machine you
use for anything else.

Jim749293432

February 1st 09 06:29 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto
a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as
the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly
a completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is a completely new OS, but is really just a improvement over
Vista, vs a major upgrade. It is basically Windows Vista with the
memory hog problems solved and to improve on the Windows Security system
so it will not be as aggravating. It is designed to be what Vista
should have been and suppossedly will run faster than both Vista and XP
on similar machines.

I think the MAC is a great machine, but I will be waiting on Windows 7
SP1 to upgrade my computer.

I have 3 machines with XP SP3 on them and they all have Windows 7.0 on
them. What exactly is Vista? What exactly is Windows 7.0? Did M-soft
slip Vista into my systems without my knowlege?

Eisboch[_4_]

February 1st 09 06:40 PM

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"Jim749293432" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is a completely new OS, but is really just a improvement over
Vista, vs a major upgrade. It is basically Windows Vista with the memory
hog problems solved and to improve on the Windows Security system so it
will not be as aggravating. It is designed to be what Vista should have
been and suppossedly will run faster than both Vista and XP on similar
machines.

I think the MAC is a great machine, but I will be waiting on Windows 7
SP1 to upgrade my computer.

I have 3 machines with XP SP3 on them and they all have Windows 7.0 on
them. What exactly is Vista? What exactly is Windows 7.0? Did M-soft slip
Vista into my systems without my knowlege?

Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

Jim7495632085

February 1st 09 07:09 PM

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Eisboch wrote:

"Jim749293432" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do
via Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned
it onto a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run
Vista as the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it
strictly a completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is a completely new OS, but is really just a improvement
over Vista, vs a major upgrade. It is basically Windows Vista with
the memory hog problems solved and to improve on the Windows Security
system so it will not be as aggravating. It is designed to be what
Vista should have been and suppossedly will run faster than both
Vista and XP on similar machines.

I think the MAC is a great machine, but I will be waiting on Windows
7 SP1 to upgrade my computer.

I have 3 machines with XP SP3 on them and they all have Windows 7.0 on
them. What exactly is Vista? What exactly is Windows 7.0? Did M-soft
slip Vista into my systems without my knowlege?

Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.

Eisboch[_4_]

February 1st 09 07:18 PM

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"Jim7495632085" wrote in message
...

Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.

Hardly.

Meanwhile, we are iced in, frozen in, boxed in and penned in with more snow
coming Monday/Tuesday.

This has been one of the most miserable winters up here in many years.

Today it is warm (45), but only for a brief amount of time before the deep
freeze comes back.
It's enough to melt the first inch of ice or so before everything
re-freezes.

Eisboch

HK	February 1st 09 08:37 PM

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it
onto a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista
as the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly
a completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Dunno. Haven't even looked at the MS web page on it yet. My guess is
that it'll upgrade a VISTA or it'll do a fresh install.

It's funny. Due to all the horror stories I had heard about Vista, I
was very hesitant to go with it on this new computer. I tried to pay
attention to recommendations regarding RAM, etc. and made sure it had
4GB and was the 64 bit version.

So far, I haven't had a single serious hiccup. In fact, only once did a
program (I think it was InfanView) temporarily "lock up" and deliver a
"program is not responding" message, but as I was reading it, it
automatically cleared itself and continued running. That's the only
time I've seen any sort of glitch and it went away by itself.

Eisboch

I've never had any serious VISTA problems, and I was there at the
beginning.

HK	February 1st 09 08:40 PM

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HK	February 1st 09 08:40 PM

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Eisboch wrote:

"Jim7495632085" wrote in message
...

Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.

Hardly.

Meanwhile, we are iced in, frozen in, boxed in and penned in with more
snow coming Monday/Tuesday.

This has been one of the most miserable winters up here in many years.

Today it is warm (45), but only for a brief amount of time before the
deep freeze comes back.
It's enough to melt the first inch of ice or so before everything
re-freezes.

Eisboch

62F here right now.

Eisboch[_4_]

February 1st 09 08:53 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"Jim7495632085" wrote in message
...

Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.

Hardly.

Meanwhile, we are iced in, frozen in, boxed in and penned in with more
snow coming Monday/Tuesday.

This has been one of the most miserable winters up here in many years.

Today it is warm (45), but only for a brief amount of time before the
deep freeze comes back.
It's enough to melt the first inch of ice or so before everything
re-freezes.

Eisboch

62F here right now.

69F here. And I ain't goin' outside.

Eisboch

Canuck57[_6_]

February 1st 09 09:30 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is Vista regurgitated. Not much difference. Marketing ploy
really, they messed up with Vista so fix a few things and a new name.

Why someone would buy a Mac and run Vista eludes me.

Canuck57[_6_]

February 1st 09 09:34 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto
a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Dunno. Haven't even looked at the MS web page on it yet. My guess is
that it'll upgrade a VISTA or it'll do a fresh install.

It's funny. Due to all the horror stories I had heard about Vista, I was
very hesitant to go with it on this new computer. I tried to pay
attention to recommendations regarding RAM, etc. and made sure it had 4GB
and was the 64 bit version.

So far, I haven't had a single serious hiccup. In fact, only once did a
program (I think it was InfanView) temporarily "lock up" and deliver a
"program is not responding" message, but as I was reading it, it
automatically cleared itself and continued running. That's the only
time I've seen any sort of glitch and it went away by itself.

Eisboch

I've never had any serious VISTA problems, and I was there at the
beginning.

Actually, for light use, Vista is OK. Have it on one of my PCs.

Most of the bad press on Vista relates to performance. In motor terms Vista
us a 4 cyl that gets 2 mpg. You can put a lot of CPU/system to it and it
performs like a slug. While if you are just doing surfing or email, you
would never know the difference, try a large file transfer disk to disk or
network to/from a disk and compare to a Mac, Linux or even XP. You will
find Vista is slow like pig.

Eisboch[_4_]

February 1st 09 09:59 PM

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Most of the bad press on Vista relates to performance. In motor terms
Vista us a 4 cyl that gets 2 mpg. You can put a lot of CPU/system to it
and it performs like a slug. While if you are just doing surfing or
email, you would never know the difference, try a large file transfer disk
to disk or network to/from a disk and compare to a Mac, Linux or even XP.
You will find Vista is slow like pig.

Maybe I just don't run any really memory extensive programs. I can only
compare a few that I consider to be memory extensive and so far Vista with
4GB of RAM seems to be a little faster and smoother running than my older XP
computer (with 3GB RAM) running the same thing. For example, running
flight simulator in Google Earth. I think that's fairly memory extensive.

The other thing is that the Vista computer boots up and shuts down a heck of
a lot faster than the XP computer. Both are HP laptops. Maybe the
difference is the CPU. The new computer is a dual core (or whatever they
call it), 64 bit processor. I think the XP is a single chip, 32 bit.

I don't know if a computer with Vista purchased recently is any different
than the early Vista releases. All I know is so far I am very happy with
it. In fact, I like it better than the XP which seems "clunky" by
comparison now.

I reserve the right to change my mind in the future. :-)

Eisboch

D.Duck

February 1st 09 10:04 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"Jim749293432" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto
a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as
the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly
a completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is a completely new OS, but is really just a improvement over
Vista, vs a major upgrade. It is basically Windows Vista with the
memory hog problems solved and to improve on the Windows Security
system so it will not be as aggravating. It is designed to be what
Vista should have been and suppossedly will run faster than both Vista
and XP on similar machines.

I think the MAC is a great machine, but I will be waiting on Windows 7
SP1 to upgrade my computer.

I have 3 machines with XP SP3 on them and they all have Windows 7.0 on
them. What exactly is Vista? What exactly is Windows 7.0? Did M-soft
slip Vista into my systems without my knowlege?

Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

The latter I would bet.

IE 8 is integrated into Windows 7 beta

HK	February 1st 09 11:08 PM

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"Jim7495632085" wrote in message
...

Windows 7 or Internet Explorer version 7.0?

IE 7.0. I feel so dumb.

Hardly.

Meanwhile, we are iced in, frozen in, boxed in and penned in with
more snow coming Monday/Tuesday.

This has been one of the most miserable winters up here in many years.

Today it is warm (45), but only for a brief amount of time before the
deep freeze comes back.
It's enough to melt the first inch of ice or so before everything
re-freezes.

Eisboch

62F here right now.

69F here. And I ain't goin' outside.

Eisboch

Good one.

HK	February 1st 09 11:29 PM

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Canuck57 wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
...
Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime soon,
but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed that
significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect, who are
more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do via
Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned it onto a
DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run Vista as the
alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it strictly a
completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Windows 7 is Vista regurgitated. Not much difference. Marketing ploy
really, they messed up with Vista so fix a few things and a new name.

Why someone would buy a Mac and run Vista eludes me.

The simple answer is that there are a few apps I use without Mac
equivalents. Windows runs just as well on a Mac through bootcamp as it
does on a plain old PC that does not run the Mac OS.

thunder

February 2nd 09 12:01 AM

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On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:29:45 -0500, HK wrote:

The simple answer is that there are a few apps I use without Mac
equivalents. Windows runs just as well on a Mac through bootcamp as it
does on a plain old PC that does not run the Mac OS.

If it's only a few apps, why bother with a dual-boot? Why not set up
Windows to run virtualized from within the Mac OS? VirtualBox, I believe
works with Mac OS X.

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox

I have *1* Windows program that I still occasionally use. I run it from
a box, and never have to leave Linux. There's even a Windows Lite, that
has most of the BS stripped from it. Linux, or in your case, Mac OS,
controls the computer so you don't have to worry about running that
insecure, buggy POS called Windows. ;-)

If you are interested, I can point you to the needed documentations to
get you going.

HK	February 2nd 09 12:08 AM

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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:29:45 -0500, HK wrote:

The simple answer is that there are a few apps I use without Mac
equivalents. Windows runs just as well on a Mac through bootcamp as it
does on a plain old PC that does not run the Mac OS.

If it's only a few apps, why bother with a dual-boot? Why not set up
Windows to run virtualized from within the Mac OS? VirtualBox, I believe
works with Mac OS X.

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox

I have *1* Windows program that I still occasionally use. I run it from
a box, and never have to leave Linux. There's even a Windows Lite, that
has most of the BS stripped from it. Linux, or in your case, Mac OS,
controls the computer so you don't have to worry about running that
insecure, buggy POS called Windows. ;-)

If you are interested, I can point you to the needed documentations to
get you going.

I've tried both the commonly available virtual apps for Macs - VMware
and Parallels. Both work ok, but you still take a performance hit. I
don't spend a lot of time in Windows anymore, and the Mac shutdown and
boot into Vista only takes about two minutes. Not a biggie. Thanks for
the offer, though. I'll take a peek at VirtualBox.

Eisboch[_4_]

February 2nd 09 12:10 AM

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"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:29:45 -0500, HK wrote:

The simple answer is that there are a few apps I use without Mac
equivalents. Windows runs just as well on a Mac through bootcamp as it
does on a plain old PC that does not run the Mac OS.

If it's only a few apps, why bother with a dual-boot? Why not set up
Windows to run virtualized from within the Mac OS? VirtualBox, I believe
works with Mac OS X.

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox

I have *1* Windows program that I still occasionally use. I run it from
a box, and never have to leave Linux. There's even a Windows Lite, that
has most of the BS stripped from it. Linux, or in your case, Mac OS,
controls the computer so you don't have to worry about running that
insecure, buggy POS called Windows. ;-)

If you are interested, I can point you to the needed documentations to
get you going.

I recently bought a Playstation 3. Now, don't laugh. It's for a project I
want to attempt, using the
unit as a "server" of sorts. It's quite an impressive machine, as
computers go.
I am a little confused as to what OS it operates on. I've heard that it
runs Linux and I've also heard
that you can now, or will soon be able to load Firefox on it to use as a web
browser.
I've connected to the Internet wirelessly with it on our home network, but
don't quite understand the browser they use.

Anyway, if all works as planned, this thing will be the heart of a home
entertainment center with massive storage for movies, music, etc.

Oh, and the kids (including me) can play games. The one that came with it
(Drake's Uncharted Fortune) has me hooked but I can get beyond the plane
wreck chapter.

Eisboch

Eisboch

Eisboch[_4_]

February 2nd 09 12:16 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:29:45 -0500, HK wrote:

The simple answer is that there are a few apps I use without Mac
equivalents. Windows runs just as well on a Mac through bootcamp as it
does on a plain old PC that does not run the Mac OS.

If it's only a few apps, why bother with a dual-boot? Why not set up
Windows to run virtualized from within the Mac OS? VirtualBox, I believe
works with Mac OS X.

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox

I have *1* Windows program that I still occasionally use. I run it from
a box, and never have to leave Linux. There's even a Windows Lite, that
has most of the BS stripped from it. Linux, or in your case, Mac OS,
controls the computer so you don't have to worry about running that
insecure, buggy POS called Windows. ;-)

If you are interested, I can point you to the needed documentations to
get you going.

I recently bought a Playstation 3. Now, don't laugh. It's for a project
I want to attempt, using the
unit as a "server" of sorts. It's quite an impressive machine, as
computers go.
I am a little confused as to what OS it operates on. I've heard that it
runs Linux and I've also heard
that you can now, or will soon be able to load Firefox on it to use as a
web browser.
I've connected to the Internet wirelessly with it on our home network, but
don't quite understand the browser they use.

Anyway, if all works as planned, this thing will be the heart of a home
entertainment center with massive storage for movies, music, etc.

Oh, and the kids (including me) can play games. The one that came with
it (Drake's Uncharted Fortune) has me hooked but I can get beyond the
plane wreck chapter.

Eisboch

Meant to say "I can't get beyond the plane wreck chapter".

Tough when you can type faster than your fingers.

Eisboch

thunder

February 2nd 09 12:30 AM

Pulled the trigger on a new...

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:10:46 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

I am a little confused as to what OS it operates on. I've heard that
it runs Linux and I've also heard
that you can now, or will soon be able to load Firefox on it to use as a
web browser.

I don't think it runs Linux, but it definitely can run Linux.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_3

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_4_]

February 2nd 09 01:21 PM

Pulled the trigger on a new...

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Mac desktop. Supposedly there are new models coming out sometime
soon, but nothing rumored about the still vaporware models seemed
that significant to me, although they will be to others, I suspect,
who are more into computer games and heavy duty graphics and math
processing.

Also snagged a beta of Windows 7, which just about anyone can do
via Microsoft's open beta for at least the short term, and burned
it onto a DVD. It'll be the "alternatve" OS on the new Mac. I run
Vista as the alternative on my Macbook Pro, works fine.

And my old desktop machine is now updated and "ready" to be
"server-ized."

Is Windows 7 designed to be an upgrade from Vista, or is it
strictly a completely new OS install?

Eisboch

Dunno. Haven't even looked at the MS web page on it yet. My guess is
that it'll upgrade a VISTA or it'll do a fresh install.

It's funny. Due to all the horror stories I had heard about Vista, I
was very hesitant to go with it on this new computer. I tried to pay
attention to recommendations regarding RAM, etc. and made sure it had
4GB and was the 64 bit version.

So far, I haven't had a single serious hiccup. In fact, only once did
a program (I think it was InfanView) temporarily "lock up" and
deliver a "program is not responding" message, but as I was reading
it, it automatically cleared itself and continued running. That's
the only time I've seen any sort of glitch and it went away by itself.

Eisboch

If I remember correctly, you didn't purchase your new computer till
after Windows had sent out the SP1 upgrade, that did correct a number of
their initial problems. From what I have read, Windows 7 will run
substantially faster than Vista, but I still will wait till they have
their SP1 upgrade on Windows 7.

My son and daughter love their MAC laptops, but I really don't see any
advantages they have over my Windows XP that would make me want to pay
double the price for a MAC.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_4_]

February 2nd 09 01:26 PM

Pulled the trigger on a new...

Eisboch wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

Most of the bad press on Vista relates to performance. In motor terms
Vista us a 4 cyl that gets 2 mpg. You can put a lot of CPU/system to
it and it performs like a slug. While if you are just doing surfing
or email, you would never know the difference, try a large file
transfer disk to disk or network to/from a disk and compare to a Mac,
Linux or even XP. You will find Vista is slow like pig.

Maybe I just don't run any really memory extensive programs. I can
only compare a few that I consider to be memory extensive and so far
Vista with 4GB of RAM seems to be a little faster and smoother running
than my older XP computer (with 3GB RAM) running the same thing. For
example, running flight simulator in Google Earth. I think that's
fairly memory extensive.

The other thing is that the Vista computer boots up and shuts down a
heck of a lot faster than the XP computer. Both are HP laptops. Maybe
the difference is the CPU. The new computer is a dual core (or whatever
they call it), 64 bit processor. I think the XP is a single chip, 32 bit.

I don't know if a computer with Vista purchased recently is any
different than the early Vista releases. All I know is so far I am very
happy with it. In fact, I like it better than the XP which seems
"clunky" by comparison now.

I reserve the right to change my mind in the future. :-)

Eisboch

The Vista SP1 upgrade did address a number of problems, including the
memory hog and speed issues with the orginal release of Vista.
According to PCTipsBox, SP1 increase the speed of Vista up to 86%.

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Eisboch[_4_]

February 2nd 09 01:36 PM

Pulled the trigger on a new...

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...

If I remember correctly, you didn't purchase your new computer till after
Windows had sent out the SP1 upgrade, that did correct a number of their
initial problems. From what I have read, Windows 7 will run
substantially faster than Vista, but I still will wait till they have
their SP1 upgrade on Windows 7.

My version of Vista has SP1. Maybe that's why I haven't noticed any
problems yet.

Eisboch

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