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If you have a small cabin on a boat can you get a small heat exchanger
that heats in winter and cools in summer that runs on 12 volts? What
kind of system would you use?


No.


Eisboch


So how do they air condition boats and campers?


My smart ass answer was because you said "runs on 12 volts". * You would
have to have a battery bank the size of the boat to have enough amp
capacity to run a heater or air conditioner for very long. *A small AC
unit will draw roughly 8 amps at 120 volts, so figure more than 10 times
that using a 12 volt compressor (if they made one) or running it from a
12vdc to 120vac inverter.


Generating enough heat BTU's would be a similar current draw. * 12 volts
is simply unrealistic.


Air conditioners on boats or campers run from either 120 volts and in
rare cases, 220 volts.
The power is supplied from a genset or shore power.


Campers usually have either a heat strip in the AC unit and/or propane
heating systems.


Eisboch


Heat pumps too.


Forgot that. *Reverse cycle combination AC and Heat. * But not for 12vdc.

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Ok, so I need to run a generator, no problem, I have one. What's the
best way to go from there? I see a lot of stuff out there on Google,
any hints about configurations and brands.. I am much more concerened
with cooling than heating. Heating I can figure out later...
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On Jan 29, 8:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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If you have a small cabin on a boat can you get a small heat exchanger
that heats in winter and cools in summer that runs on 12 volts? What
kind of system would you use?


No.


Eisboch


So how do they air condition boats and campers?


My smart ass answer was because you said "runs on 12 volts". * You would
have to have a battery bank the size of the boat to have enough amp
capacity to run a heater or air conditioner for very long. *A small AC
unit will draw roughly 8 amps at 120 volts, so figure more than 10 times
that using a 12 volt compressor (if they made one) or running it from a
12vdc to 120vac inverter.


Generating enough heat BTU's would be a similar current draw. * 12 volts
is simply unrealistic.


Air conditioners on boats or campers run from either 120 volts and in
rare cases, 220 volts.
The power is supplied from a genset or shore power.


Campers usually have either a heat strip in the AC unit and/or propane
heating systems.


Eisboch


Heat pumps too.


Forgot that. *Reverse cycle combination AC and Heat. * But not for 12vdc.


Eisboch- Hide quoted text -


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Ok, so I need to run a generator, no problem, I have one. What's the
best way to go from there? I see a lot of stuff out there on Google,
any hints about configurations and brands.. I am much more concerened
with cooling than heating. Heating I can figure out later...- Hide quoted text -

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Ok, so I need to run a generator, no problem, I have one.

He's going to put the Generator in his rowboat.....lol.
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:40:55 -0800 (PST),
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On Jan 29, 10:08*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Jan 29, 8:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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If you have a small cabin on a boat can you get a small heat exchanger
that heats in winter and cools in summer that runs on 12 volts? What
kind of system would you use?


No.


Eisboch


So how do they air condition boats and campers?


My smart ass answer was because you said "runs on 12 volts". * You would
have to have a battery bank the size of the boat to have enough amp
capacity to run a heater or air conditioner for very long. *A small AC
unit will draw roughly 8 amps at 120 volts, so figure more than 10 times
that using a 12 volt compressor (if they made one) or running it from a
12vdc to 120vac inverter.


Generating enough heat BTU's would be a similar current draw. * 12 volts
is simply unrealistic.


Air conditioners on boats or campers run from either 120 volts and in
rare cases, 220 volts.
The power is supplied from a genset or shore power.


Campers usually have either a heat strip in the AC unit and/or propane
heating systems.


Eisboch


Heat pumps too.


Forgot that. *Reverse cycle combination AC and Heat. * But not for 12vdc.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ok, so I need to run a generator, no problem, I have one. What's the
best way to go from there? I see a lot of stuff out there on Google,
any hints about configurations and brands.. I am much more concerened
with cooling than heating. Heating I can figure out later...


Scotty, this would probably be a good place to start. These guys make most
of the A/C units you see on top of campers.

http://www.dometic.com/enus/Americas...for-your-boat/

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On Jan 29, 10:08 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Jan 29, 8:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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If you have a small cabin on a boat can you get a small heat exchanger
that heats in winter and cools in summer that runs on 12 volts? What
kind of system would you use?
No.
Eisboch
So how do they air condition boats and campers?
My smart ass answer was because you said "runs on 12 volts". You would
have to have a battery bank the size of the boat to have enough amp
capacity to run a heater or air conditioner for very long. A small AC
unit will draw roughly 8 amps at 120 volts, so figure more than 10 times
that using a 12 volt compressor (if they made one) or running it from a
12vdc to 120vac inverter.
Generating enough heat BTU's would be a similar current draw. 12 volts
is simply unrealistic.
Air conditioners on boats or campers run from either 120 volts and in
rare cases, 220 volts.
The power is supplied from a genset or shore power.
Campers usually have either a heat strip in the AC unit and/or propane
heating systems.
Eisboch
Heat pumps too.

Forgot that. Reverse cycle combination AC and Heat. But not for 12vdc.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ok, so I need to run a generator, no problem, I have one. What's the
best way to go from there? I see a lot of stuff out there on Google,
any hints about configurations and brands.. I am much more concerened
with cooling than heating. Heating I can figure out later...



Don't forget to place that generator properly in the cabin and aim its
exhaust towards your face.
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