On Jan 28, 11:28*am, jps wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:40:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:24:05 -0500, "Eisboch"
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"jps" wrote in message
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I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. *You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.

Well, at least Bush offered an option. *The Islamic fundamentalists simply
want you dead.

Eisboch

You give them little credit and I think that's short sighted. *If you
lived in their part of the world, you'd undoubtedly have a different
perspective.

There are folks over there as moderate in their thinking as you are in
yours. *You should try and lean into a little more and perhaps you'd
understand why they posture the way they do.

It's complicated, don't think you can get away with simplifying it to
a bumper sticker.

Bush's swashbuckling was a ruse. *Time proved it.

Where's bin Laden now? *"I don't know, I don't pay much attention to
him anymore." *paraphrase of GW two years after he announced "dead or
alive."

He's as credible in their eyes as Ahmadinegad is in ours.

When I refer to Islamic fundamentalists, I am speaking of those who use
religion to teach kids from the time they can walk that it is their duty to
kill westerners, especially Israelis and Americans. * Talking, teaching,
begging isn't going to change that for a very long time, if ever.

Hard, cruel lesson Number 1.

Eisboch

They got that way from our disengagement. *If we put money into
schools like bin Laden does, we'd be in a better position to influence
the situation.

You are aware that we have rebuilt or opened hundreds of schools in
the middle east, and allowed millions of children, in particular
girls, to attend schools they could not before, right? You are either
dreadfully uninformed, or the facts don't really fit into your narrow
agenda...

We project our power through force instead of enlightenment.

See above.


Sound like a good policy for changing "the enemies" mind?

Irrelevant, based on false pretense...