Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt with
the saudis?

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt with
the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."


Obama isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.

On Jan 28, 9:37*am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...

I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. *You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.

Well, at least Bush offered an option. *The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch

The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."

Obama *isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.

Sounds to me like the story of the hungry bear and the hunter wanting
a fur coat to me.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:59 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."


Obama isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.

Tell me something -just out of curiosity.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

Please - I'd really like to know.

--

When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:19 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:59 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."


Obama isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.

Tell me something -just out of curiosity.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

Please - I'd really like to know.

Didn't you support the guy who introduced the "Axis of Evil"?

Did you embrace him as your leader?

Why should they feel any differently about their leader if he's seen
as defending his country?

Obama is smart enough to engage. You think that opening a dialogue is
a sign of weakness. I think not opening a dialogue is a sign of
stupidity.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:25:15 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:19 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:59 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."


Obama isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.

Tell me something -just out of curiosity.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

Please - I'd really like to know.

Didn't you support the guy who introduced the "Axis of Evil"?

Did you embrace him as your leader?

Why should they feel any differently about their leader if he's seen
as defending his country?

Obama is smart enough to engage. You think that opening a dialogue is
a sign of weakness. I think not opening a dialogue is a sign of
stupidity.

Read and learn.

In particular the last paragraph.

http://tinyurl.com/akeyvo

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:25:15 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:19 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:59 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...

I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.

Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch

The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?
Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch
Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."


Obama isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.
Tell me something -just out of curiosity.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

Please - I'd really like to know.
Didn't you support the guy who introduced the "Axis of Evil"?

Did you embrace him as your leader?

Why should they feel any differently about their leader if he's seen
as defending his country?

Obama is smart enough to engage. You think that opening a dialogue is
a sign of weakness. I think not opening a dialogue is a sign of
stupidity.

Read and learn.

In particular the last paragraph.

http://tinyurl.com/akeyvo

--

There's more to the leadership of Iran than the crazy guy.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:25:15 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:19 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:59 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."


Obama isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.

Tell me something -just out of curiosity.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

Please - I'd really like to know.

Didn't you support the guy who introduced the "Axis of Evil"?

Did you embrace him as your leader?

Why should they feel any differently about their leader if he's seen
as defending his country?

Obama is smart enough to engage. You think that opening a dialogue is
a sign of weakness. I think not opening a dialogue is a sign of
stupidity.

You didn't answer my question. Allow me to reiterate.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

--

"I have tried to know absolutely nothing about a great
many things, and I have succeeded fairly well."

Robert Benchley

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:33:04 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:25:15 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:19 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:59 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


I love how you use Obama's offer of diplomacy to belittle him. You'd
obviously prefer Bush's "dead or alive" approach.


Well, at least Bush offered an option. The Islamic fundamentalists
simply want you dead.

Eisboch


The islamic fundies comprise a tiny portion of islam. And if we were
opposed to dealing with islamic fundies, why was bush kissing butt
with the saudis?

Why is Obama kissing butt with Iran?

Eisboch

Because it is worthwhile trying to defuse Iran and by doing so making
life and the chances of re-election a bit more difficult for its insane
"leader."


Obama isn't kissing butt...he simply is opening up channels of
communication. That's what the dummies in the Bush admin could not
figure out.

Tell me something -just out of curiosity.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

Please - I'd really like to know.

Didn't you support the guy who introduced the "Axis of Evil"?

Did you embrace him as your leader?

Why should they feel any differently about their leader if he's seen
as defending his country?

Obama is smart enough to engage. You think that opening a dialogue is
a sign of weakness. I think not opening a dialogue is a sign of
stupidity.

You didn't answer my question. Allow me to reiterate.

How do you open dialogue with a leader who views you as a apostate and
heretic? Are you going to send your female Secretary of State to a
Islamic country to "negotiate"? Is she going to wear a burka when she
does so?

You have a misunderstanding of Iran if you think a woman requires a
burka. Iran deals with female diplomats from other parts of the
world, I'm sure they'll welcome ours with great hospitatlity.

Iran is among the most westernized of the mid-east nations. They're
closer to a free society than most of their neighbors. A great deal
of their population feels warmly towards the west but we've made it
very difficult to express that support by our invasion of Iraq and the
school yard approach to diplomacy.

Fortunately, Obama is an adult and will undoubtedly engage them in
meaningful dialogue. Hopefully, it'll result in a better
understanding and a better hand to play from. Invading and bombing
hasn't proven to be very effective in fomenting peace.

And before you say "let turn 'em to glass" know that it's not a
reasonable possibility. This isn't childs play.