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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:20:02 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... iPods are having an effect, but the bigger issue, I think, is lack of imagination and just plain balls in retailing. That's why this retailer keeps growing every year: http://www.rowephoto.com/index.html Mid to high quality audio, full service, well-trained staff with outrageous product knowledge. Began as a photo store 110 years ago. Added audio & video in the mid-1980s. The stores are always busy. In a sense, the owner built the business by responding to the big discounters with "So what?" Wegmans (grocery chain) does the same thing. Hopefully they will stay around because they are diversified. There used to be a couple of decent high-end audio shops around my area but they have all folded. The demand (or lack of) for quality equipment just doesn't pay the rent anymore. Even manufacturers of decent speakers are introducing lower performance, lower priced models of their equipment to be carried by places like Best Buy. It's too bad because people still spend a considerable amount of money for Best Buy's versions of Klipsch or Martin Logan thinking they are getting high end speakers. For a small amount more they could get the real thing. Eisboch Agree on Circuit City being crap. As to high end stores, some are probably better than others. We have one in Livermore. When I was going to put in a decent home theater system, went to them for a bid. They listened to what I wanted, and then just ignored it. The first bid was $10,000. About $8k above what I said my budget was. This did not include a TV, just the speakers and amp/ receiver. Do not know if they are around anymore either. Just a more expensive Circuit City. No one listening. Wow...your *bugdet* of $2K *demnded* a tv also? Big spender! Yikes... Sunday morning... should be *budget* and *demanded* Sunday?? |
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wrote in message ... The change over really re-invigorated my interest in composing, playing and recording music, which had atrophied the past few years. Buying new stuff is always fun, too. I'm currently looking for a drop dead deal on this: http://www.roland.com/products/en/TD-9KX/index.html check out the demo video! Unreal. The stuff they do now with DSP is simply amazing. My dad, who passed away about 8 years ago was an accomplished musician and playing in several bands. He would be blown away with the melding of digital electronics and signal processing with traditional instruments. Blows me away. Eisboch |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:36:29 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:31:19 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message m... On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:40:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:tOKdnSJgIZhGpezUnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@earthl ink.com... Circuit City to liquidate, shutter stores Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:08pm EST By Karen Jacobs and Emily Chasan ATLANTA/RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - Bankrupt electronics retailer Circuit City Stores said on Friday it will liquidate its assets and shutter hundreds of U.S. stores after failing to reach a deal to sell the company. Good riddance. Circuit City was one of the worst retail stores for consumer electronics (or anything for that matter) that I can think of. Sales "associates" walking around with cell phones stuck in their ear, talking to friends or congregating in groups yuking it up while customers wait at the register to pay for purchases or need assistance. We had two in this area, one was in business for several years, the other relatively new. Both stores had the same cavalier culture when it came to the customers. Plus, typically they didn't know anything about the products they sold. Most were high school kids working after school. At least Best Buy has some trained sales associates that know something about what they sell. For the market it was supposed to serve, Circuit City was no better than a Target or Wal-Mart. I am surprised they stayed in business as long as they did, economic slowdown or no economic slowdown. Eisboch I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Yes, you are missing something, and so is Harry. Circuit City was in bad shape way before the economy went down the toilet. There are badly run businesses and there are well run businesses. Capitalism is based on competition - the survival of the fittest. Circuit City deserved to die. I feel bad for their employees, but hopefully, a few of them will learn a lesson from their experience. Probably not, though, because their managers expected to make money for doing pretty much nothing special, so they were lousy role models. When I was in the audio business, we expected new employees to learn every piece of equipment in the store. On slow days, we'd send them to the upstairs office during lunch with a receiver or whatever, and told them to learn it until they could work it blindfolded. If there were no customers, we'd stick them in the sound room and tell them to listen hard to all the speakers until they could describe the differences adequately. We made them study, in other words. We all took home demo pieces overnight to learning purposes. A friend from those days is now an independent sales trainer. He said "no" to working for CC after one disturbing experience. He played customer & called our local store, asking if they had a certain Harmon Kardon receiver in stock. The employee told him they didn't carry Harmon Kardon. My friend knew, of course, that they carried HK, and several HK items had been featured in their Sunday newspaper ad that same week. When he told their regional manager about his experience, the guy pretty much yawned and said "That's why we want you to do training for us." My friend said no thanks, figuring that if the employees didn't care enough to walk around their own store and see what brands they carried, sales training was the least of their problems. Even worse was that the manager didn't have clue about the real problem. The only advantage CC offered me was the ability to order online and pick up an item at the store. That's pretty expensive real estate for what amounts to nothing but a warehouse. Meanwhile, we have the perfect model of capitalism here. Maybe Rochester customers have high expectations because of this company: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3795 http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/1124/166_print.html http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...4048/index.htm Doug, it's not the focus on CC that prompted my question. It's the posting of any article which discusses the problems companies are having, and the gloating that occurs therewith. *That's* what I don't understand. Why take pleasure in the fact that companies (any company) is going out of business? Because it represents the potential for an improvement in the industry. But, I realize that's idealistic at best. We get what we deserve, so as long as there are customers who think a $3.99 bottle of detergent is cheaper at one store than the exact same $3.99 bottle at another store, because the first store yells "We're cheaper!" all the time, then we will always have bad retailers around. Survival of the fittest...OK. So it's actually a 'pro-corporation' attitude that causes the gleeful publication and comments whenever a corporation is hurting or going out of business. Then the loss of all these jobs due to the congressional initiated recession is actually 'good' for corporations. Makes sense to me. I know a half dozen people who got downsized out of Kodak over the last 10 years and said it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to them. You never know. |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? I don't know what Harry's thinking, but there's no glee in my comments. I'm simply pointing out that this is capitalism at work, and that in *some* markets (read "communities"), it may be good for the audio biz and its customers. There's nothing happy or sad about cold facts, unless you're bored and you need to twist things around. |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:36:29 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:31:19 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:40:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:tOKdnSJgIZhGpezUnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@earthli nk.com... Circuit City to liquidate, shutter stores Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:08pm EST By Karen Jacobs and Emily Chasan ATLANTA/RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - Bankrupt electronics retailer Circuit City Stores said on Friday it will liquidate its assets and shutter hundreds of U.S. stores after failing to reach a deal to sell the company. Good riddance. Circuit City was one of the worst retail stores for consumer electronics (or anything for that matter) that I can think of. Sales "associates" walking around with cell phones stuck in their ear, talking to friends or congregating in groups yuking it up while customers wait at the register to pay for purchases or need assistance. We had two in this area, one was in business for several years, the other relatively new. Both stores had the same cavalier culture when it came to the customers. Plus, typically they didn't know anything about the products they sold. Most were high school kids working after school. At least Best Buy has some trained sales associates that know something about what they sell. For the market it was supposed to serve, Circuit City was no better than a Target or Wal-Mart. I am surprised they stayed in business as long as they did, economic slowdown or no economic slowdown. Eisboch I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Yes, you are missing something, and so is Harry. Circuit City was in bad shape way before the economy went down the toilet. There are badly run businesses and there are well run businesses. Capitalism is based on competition - the survival of the fittest. Circuit City deserved to die. I feel bad for their employees, but hopefully, a few of them will learn a lesson from their experience. Probably not, though, because their managers expected to make money for doing pretty much nothing special, so they were lousy role models. When I was in the audio business, we expected new employees to learn every piece of equipment in the store. On slow days, we'd send them to the upstairs office during lunch with a receiver or whatever, and told them to learn it until they could work it blindfolded. If there were no customers, we'd stick them in the sound room and tell them to listen hard to all the speakers until they could describe the differences adequately. We made them study, in other words. We all took home demo pieces overnight to learning purposes. A friend from those days is now an independent sales trainer. He said "no" to working for CC after one disturbing experience. He played customer & called our local store, asking if they had a certain Harmon Kardon receiver in stock. The employee told him they didn't carry Harmon Kardon. My friend knew, of course, that they carried HK, and several HK items had been featured in their Sunday newspaper ad that same week. When he told their regional manager about his experience, the guy pretty much yawned and said "That's why we want you to do training for us." My friend said no thanks, figuring that if the employees didn't care enough to walk around their own store and see what brands they carried, sales training was the least of their problems. Even worse was that the manager didn't have clue about the real problem. The only advantage CC offered me was the ability to order online and pick up an item at the store. That's pretty expensive real estate for what amounts to nothing but a warehouse. Meanwhile, we have the perfect model of capitalism here. Maybe Rochester customers have high expectations because of this company: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3795 http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/1124/166_print.html http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...4048/index.htm Doug, it's not the focus on CC that prompted my question. It's the posting of any article which discusses the problems companies are having, and the gloating that occurs therewith. *That's* what I don't understand. Why take pleasure in the fact that companies (any company) is going out of business? Because it represents the potential for an improvement in the industry. But, I realize that's idealistic at best. We get what we deserve, so as long as there are customers who think a $3.99 bottle of detergent is cheaper at one store than the exact same $3.99 bottle at another store, because the first store yells "We're cheaper!" all the time, then we will always have bad retailers around. Survival of the fittest...OK. So it's actually a 'pro-corporation' attitude that causes the gleeful publication and comments whenever a corporation is hurting or going out of business. Then the loss of all these jobs due to the congressional initiated recession is actually 'good' for corporations. Makes sense to me. |
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On Jan 17, 9:46*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:36:29 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:31:19 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:40:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:tOKdnSJgIZhGpezUnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@earthli nk.com... Circuit City to liquidate, shutter stores Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:08pm EST By Karen Jacobs and Emily Chasan ATLANTA/RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - Bankrupt electronics retailer Circuit City Stores said on Friday it will liquidate its assets and shutter hundreds of U.S. stores after failing to reach a deal to sell the company. Good riddance. *Circuit City was one of the worst retail stores for consumer electronics (or anything for that matter) *that I can think of. * Sales "associates" walking around with cell phones stuck in their ear, talking to friends or congregating in groups yuking it up while customers wait at the register to pay for purchases or need assistance. *We had two in this area, one was in business for several years, the other relatively new. *Both stores had the same cavalier culture when it came to the customers. Plus, typically they didn't know anything about the products they sold. Most were high school kids working after school. *At least Best Buy has some trained sales associates that know something about what they sell. *For the market it was supposed to serve, Circuit City was no better than a Target or Wal-Mart. I am surprised they stayed in business as long as they did, economic slowdown or no economic slowdown. Eisboch I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Yes, you are missing something, and so is Harry. Circuit City was in bad shape way before the economy went down the toilet. There are badly run businesses and there are well run businesses. Capitalism is based on competition - the survival of the fittest. Circuit City deserved to die. I feel bad for their employees, but hopefully, a few of them will learn a lesson from their experience. Probably not, though, because their managers expected to make money for doing pretty much nothing special, so they were lousy role models. When I was in the audio business, we expected new employees to learn every piece of equipment in the store. On slow days, we'd send them to the upstairs office during lunch with a receiver or whatever, and told them to learn it until they could work it blindfolded. If there were no customers, we'd stick them in the sound room and tell them to listen hard to all the speakers until they could describe the differences adequately. We made them study, in other words. We all took home demo pieces overnight to learning purposes. A friend from those days is now an independent sales trainer. He said "no" to working for CC after one disturbing experience. He played customer & called our local store, asking if they had a certain Harmon Kardon receiver in stock. The employee told him they didn't carry Harmon Kardon. My friend knew, of course, that they carried HK, and several HK items had been featured in their Sunday newspaper ad that same week. When he told their regional manager about his experience, the guy pretty much yawned and said "That's why we want you to do training for us." My friend said no thanks, figuring that if the employees didn't care enough to walk around their own store and see what brands they carried, sales training was the least of their problems. Even worse was that the manager didn't have clue about the real problem. The only advantage CC offered me was the ability to order online and pick up an item at the store. That's pretty expensive real estate for what amounts to nothing but a warehouse. Meanwhile, we have the perfect model of capitalism here. Maybe Rochester customers have high expectations because of this company: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3795 http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/1124/166_print.html http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...2005/01/24/823.... Doug, it's not the focus on CC that prompted my question. It's the posting of any article which discusses the problems companies are having, and the gloating that occurs therewith. *That's* what I don't understand. Why take pleasure in the fact that companies (any company) is going out of business? Because it represents the potential for an improvement in the industry. But, I realize that's idealistic at best. We get what we deserve, so as long as there are customers who think a $3.99 bottle of detergent is cheaper at one store than the exact same $3.99 bottle at another store, because the first store yells "We're cheaper!" all the time, then we will always have bad retailers around. Survival of the fittest...OK. So it's actually a 'pro-corporation' attitude that causes the gleeful publication and comments whenever a corporation is hurting or going out of business. Then the loss of all these jobs due to the congressional initiated recession is actually 'good' for corporations. Makes sense to me.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't let Harrys Bush Derangement get to you, all liberals aren't happy about folks loosing jobs... |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:44:16 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:36:29 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:31:19 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message om... On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:40:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:tOKdnSJgIZhGpezUnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@earth link.com... Circuit City to liquidate, shutter stores Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:08pm EST By Karen Jacobs and Emily Chasan ATLANTA/RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - Bankrupt electronics retailer Circuit City Stores said on Friday it will liquidate its assets and shutter hundreds of U.S. stores after failing to reach a deal to sell the company. Good riddance. Circuit City was one of the worst retail stores for consumer electronics (or anything for that matter) that I can think of. Sales "associates" walking around with cell phones stuck in their ear, talking to friends or congregating in groups yuking it up while customers wait at the register to pay for purchases or need assistance. We had two in this area, one was in business for several years, the other relatively new. Both stores had the same cavalier culture when it came to the customers. Plus, typically they didn't know anything about the products they sold. Most were high school kids working after school. At least Best Buy has some trained sales associates that know something about what they sell. For the market it was supposed to serve, Circuit City was no better than a Target or Wal-Mart. I am surprised they stayed in business as long as they did, economic slowdown or no economic slowdown. Eisboch I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Yes, you are missing something, and so is Harry. Circuit City was in bad shape way before the economy went down the toilet. There are badly run businesses and there are well run businesses. Capitalism is based on competition - the survival of the fittest. Circuit City deserved to die. I feel bad for their employees, but hopefully, a few of them will learn a lesson from their experience. Probably not, though, because their managers expected to make money for doing pretty much nothing special, so they were lousy role models. When I was in the audio business, we expected new employees to learn every piece of equipment in the store. On slow days, we'd send them to the upstairs office during lunch with a receiver or whatever, and told them to learn it until they could work it blindfolded. If there were no customers, we'd stick them in the sound room and tell them to listen hard to all the speakers until they could describe the differences adequately. We made them study, in other words. We all took home demo pieces overnight to learning purposes. A friend from those days is now an independent sales trainer. He said "no" to working for CC after one disturbing experience. He played customer & called our local store, asking if they had a certain Harmon Kardon receiver in stock. The employee told him they didn't carry Harmon Kardon. My friend knew, of course, that they carried HK, and several HK items had been featured in their Sunday newspaper ad that same week. When he told their regional manager about his experience, the guy pretty much yawned and said "That's why we want you to do training for us." My friend said no thanks, figuring that if the employees didn't care enough to walk around their own store and see what brands they carried, sales training was the least of their problems. Even worse was that the manager didn't have clue about the real problem. The only advantage CC offered me was the ability to order online and pick up an item at the store. That's pretty expensive real estate for what amounts to nothing but a warehouse. Meanwhile, we have the perfect model of capitalism here. Maybe Rochester customers have high expectations because of this company: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3795 http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/1124/166_print.html http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...4048/index.htm Doug, it's not the focus on CC that prompted my question. It's the posting of any article which discusses the problems companies are having, and the gloating that occurs therewith. *That's* what I don't understand. Why take pleasure in the fact that companies (any company) is going out of business? Because it represents the potential for an improvement in the industry. But, I realize that's idealistic at best. We get what we deserve, so as long as there are customers who think a $3.99 bottle of detergent is cheaper at one store than the exact same $3.99 bottle at another store, because the first store yells "We're cheaper!" all the time, then we will always have bad retailers around. Survival of the fittest...OK. So it's actually a 'pro-corporation' attitude that causes the gleeful publication and comments whenever a corporation is hurting or going out of business. Then the loss of all these jobs due to the congressional initiated recession is actually 'good' for corporations. Makes sense to me. I know a half dozen people who got downsized out of Kodak over the last 10 years and said it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to them. You never know. Good to hear. My BIL just lost his job at a big appliance store in Richmond. The company is going from three stores to one and doesn't need the management people. Two days later he got a call from the owner of a 'high end' appliance shop. Hired him at a slightly less salary, but with a much better outlook. |
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... Yikes... Sunday morning... should be *budget* and *demanded* Check your watch. It's Saturday. Eisboch mmmm.. hee hee...I'd better get a job or something... I'm losing contact with reality. My Swiss Army watch isn't much help...it thinks today is the 16th. The analog type watch gets mixed up between 30 and 31 day months not to mention a short month like February. |
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On Jan 17, 9:59*am, BAR wrote:
John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. *The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry sees this as an opportunity for the very far loonie left to take power and force changes down the throats of Americans that they have defeated in the voting booth for decades... It's the elitist method of rule, what's good for them, should be fine with the rest of us. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:02:48 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... Yikes... Sunday morning... should be *budget* and *demanded* Check your watch. It's Saturday. Eisboch mmmm.. hee hee...I'd better get a job or something... I'm losing contact with reality. My Swiss Army watch isn't much help...it thinks today is the 16th. The analog type watch gets mixed up between 30 and 31 day months not to mention a short month like February. I'll bet you're supposed to roll over an extra day at the end of a 30 day month. Hell, if it's the watch, what happened at the end of February? March must have been a mess. |
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... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone. What type of business are you in? |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone. What type of business are you in? No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter. My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get terminated. Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my boss tells me to do. You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to do it differently. Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations. |
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... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone. What type of business are you in? No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter. My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get terminated. Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my boss tells me to do. You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to do it differently. Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations. Why do you think CC is folding? |
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On Jan 16, 10:37*pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "hk" wrote in message news:tOKdnSJgIZhGpezUnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@earthlink. com... Circuit City to liquidate, shutter stores Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:08pm EST By Karen Jacobs and Emily Chasan ATLANTA/RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - Bankrupt electronics retailer Circuit City Stores said on Friday it will liquidate its assets and shutter hundreds of U.S. stores after failing to reach a deal to sell the company. Good riddance. *Circuit City was one of the worst retail stores for consumer electronics (or anything for that matter) *that I can think of. Sales "associates" walking around with cell phones stuck in their ear, talking to friends or congregating in groups yuking it up while customers wait at the register to pay for purchases or need assistance. *We had two in this area, one was in business for several years, the other relatively new. *Both stores had the same cavalier culture when it came to the customers. BTW, here's another recent bankruptcy that is really too bad, but it was inevitable. "Sound Advice" was a decent mid to low high end quality audio retailer based in Florida until they were purchased by Tweeter in 2001. *Since then, both companies have been on a downward slide and recently threw in the towel and went belly up. * Good write up on Sound Advice in the first link. The second link is why high end, good quality audio equipment is becoming a thing of the past. People are more interested in having "thousands" of files of compressed crap on their iPods instead of high quality recordings worthy of decent equipment. * Sad. http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/sound-advice http://www.audioholics.com/news/edit...-down-of-audio Eisboch I sometimes play my ipod through my stereo...sounds just a hair below a well-done CD. Nothing beats an ipod for portable entertainment.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, yes, electronically compressed sound is perfect........ We can certainly tell by your above bull**** that you aren't the audiophile you claim to be! |
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"John H" wrote in message ... I'll bet you're supposed to roll over an extra day at the end of a 30 day month. Hell, if it's the watch, what happened at the end of February? March must have been a mess. Not to mention the extra second they tacked on at the end of last year. Musta really thrown that Swiss Army watch on it's back. Eisboch |
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On Jan 17, 11:51*am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:02:23 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: High sample rates (320kbps) certainly makes them better but the files get bigger. * Wav files sound best because there's no compression, but the files are huge. *People aren't into quality, they are into quantity, so they pack their iPods and mp3 players with low quality, low sample rate files. *I just can't get into that. *Despite what some claim, I can (and so can my wife) distinguish the difference of a high quality CD PCM track and a high sample rate conversion of it to mp3. You can't replace what isn't there. *But, with Audacity you can add some depth to get rid of the coffee can sound. As discussed many times before, it all depends on what you are listening to them on. *An iPod plugged into a docking station or a non-revealing audio system sounds ok for background music. I have been migrating to the biggest sample rate I can get. "Huge" is a relative thing when you can get a 2 gig SD card for $10. That is one reason why I like my $30 Sansa better than an Ipod. It has an SD slot. That is the cassette of the 21st century. Even with WAVs you can get a couple hundred on a card and more like 400-500 MP3s. Yup, I have a sansa and I use the biggest files I can, I have a couple mini 2 gig chips I can put in. My kid can't do that with her Ipod... I also have FM for those feeling lucky days... |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... I'll bet you're supposed to roll over an extra day at the end of a 30 day month. Hell, if it's the watch, what happened at the end of February? March must have been a mess. Not to mention the extra second they tacked on at the end of last year. Musta really thrown that Swiss Army watch on it's back. Eisboch But if it's a true Swiss Army product it must have tooth pick and a cork screw. 8) |
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"hk" wrote in message m... If I am not mistaken, my iPod has a 50 or 50 gig hard drive. You'd have to buy 30 2 gig $10 SD cards to match the capacity. That's a lot more than I paid for my iPod. Plus, SD cars are small. If you are always swapping them out to get to the music on another card, well... You know, I think I am still hung up from the old days of having a PAL 286 computer with a whopping 40Mb hard drive. I became very frugal with disk space, saving all my documents on floppy disk so the hard drive had room for programs. Its a habit I still have, even though my newest computer has a 320Gb drive plus an additional backup drive. I keep it squeaky clean of misc. stuff that I really don't need. I guess I can store some stuff without worrying about running out of space. Eisboch |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone. What type of business are you in? No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter. My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get terminated. Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my boss tells me to do. You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to do it differently. Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations. So...if your 'boss' told you to ship a defective product that might cause injury or death you'd do it...to hell with the customer eh? |
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On Jan 17, 2:11*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:ltl3n4da10dg7kop7mg6sck7ae63k0e074@4ax .com... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. *The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone. What type of business are you in? No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter. My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get terminated. Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my boss tells me to do. You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to do it differently. Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations. So...if your 'boss' told you to ship a defective product that might cause injury or death you'd do it...to hell with the customer eh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well he sure as hell wouldn't give it to his son! Vroom, vroom.... |
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:18:43 -0500, "Eisboch" I have a 720 Roberts you can have for the shipping but it might not be good enough for what you want. I really appreciate that but I'd hate to put you through the trouble. I think if I want to stay current I should take the time and learn how to use the new digital recorders like the 900CD. The problem with the old stuff is if I get hooked and then it breaks, I need parts, etc. I am back to square one. Again though, thanks for the offer. mmmptttttfffff...... (maybe I should ..... naw, forget it.) Eisboch |
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On Jan 17, 2:29*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:18:04 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 17, 2:11*pm, "Don White" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message om... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:ltl3n4da10dg7kop7mg6sck7ae63k0e074@4ax .com... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. *The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone. What type of business are you in? No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter. My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get terminated. Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my boss tells me to do. You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to do it differently. Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations. So...if your 'boss' told you to ship a defective product that might cause injury or death you'd do it...to hell with the customer eh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well he sure as hell wouldn't give it to his son! Vroom, vroom.... LMAO! You're on a roll.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, but Donnie can take it, not like others in his gang who when challenged just go plain mental;) |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message m... If I am not mistaken, my iPod has a 50 or 50 gig hard drive. You'd have to buy 30 2 gig $10 SD cards to match the capacity. That's a lot more than I paid for my iPod. Plus, SD cars are small. If you are always swapping them out to get to the music on another card, well... You know, I think I am still hung up from the old days of having a PAL 286 computer with a whopping 40Mb hard drive. I became very frugal with disk space, saving all my documents on floppy disk so the hard drive had room for programs. Its a habit I still have, even though my newest computer has a 320Gb drive plus an additional backup drive. I keep it squeaky clean of misc. stuff that I really don't need. I guess I can store some stuff without worrying about running out of space. Eisboch My first PC had only a floppy drive. It wasn't until I got my hands on an S-100 bus computer that I encountered a hard drive, but I think it was only 20megs... |
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Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant. You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone. What type of business are you in? No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter. My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get terminated. Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my boss tells me to do. You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to do it differently. Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations. So...if your 'boss' told you to ship a defective product that might cause injury or death you'd do it...to hell with the customer eh? He's a marine...he does what he is told to do. |
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"hk" wrote in message ... I have about 15 whole operas, some operettas, plus collections of symphonies, plus chamber music, plus rock, folk, jazz...and I've set up playlists to meet different moods and tastes. I think my ipod is about half full. My wife's ipod is about the same, but with her music on it. Plus I have our server set up with all the music, accessible throughout the house and from a distance. When we travel, I upload some movies to our ipods so we can watch them on the plane. The guy that bought our old farmhouse sets up "home" entertainment systems, primarily (believe it or not) on large yachts. He showed me his personal system that he set up in the farmhouse. It blew me away. He rips movies from DVDs (not exactly legal) and stores them on two, 1 terabyte drives. All the equipment, computers, speakers, etc. are hidden. The only thing you see in his living room is a large, LCD HD display and a remote control. When they want to watch a movie, he calls them up using the remote. The box covers are displayed and you scroll through them or search for a particular name, click on it, and it plays in superb surround sound. I think he told me he has over 200 movies stored on it so far and it's not close to being full. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message ... I have about 15 whole operas, some operettas, plus collections of symphonies, plus chamber music, plus rock, folk, jazz...and I've set up playlists to meet different moods and tastes. I think my ipod is about half full. My wife's ipod is about the same, but with her music on it. Plus I have our server set up with all the music, accessible throughout the house and from a distance. When we travel, I upload some movies to our ipods so we can watch them on the plane. The guy that bought our old farmhouse sets up "home" entertainment systems, primarily (believe it or not) on large yachts. He showed me his personal system that he set up in the farmhouse. It blew me away. He rips movies from DVDs (not exactly legal) and stores them on two, 1 terabyte drives. All the equipment, computers, speakers, etc. are hidden. The only thing you see in his living room is a large, LCD HD display and a remote control. When they want to watch a movie, he calls them up using the remote. The box covers are displayed and you scroll through them or search for a particular name, click on it, and it plays in superb surround sound. I think he told me he has over 200 movies stored on it so far and it's not close to being full. Eisboch Forgot to mention. A key component of the system he put together is a Playstation 2 or 3 or whatever they are called. He explained that the source code for them are easy to hack into and modify for the purposes he used it. I don't pretend to understand a tenth of what he was talking about. All I know is that it is impressive. Eisboch Eisboch |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:42:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: wrote in message .. . The change over really re-invigorated my interest in composing, playing and recording music, which had atrophied the past few years. Buying new stuff is always fun, too. I'm currently looking for a drop dead deal on this: http://www.roland.com/products/en/TD-9KX/index.html check out the demo video! Unreal. The stuff they do now with DSP is simply amazing. My dad, who passed away about 8 years ago was an accomplished musician and playing in several bands. He would be blown away with the melding of digital electronics and signal processing with traditional instruments. Blows me away. Eisboch Well, I went to Guitar Center to check the set out. It was just what it seemed like from my research. The mesh heads feel great. I told the very nice young fella that I liked the set but it was just too much money. He suggested a lower model they had there with non-mesh pads. I told him that I wan't going to buy something that wasn't really what I wanted. I was either going to get the set I wanted or none. I really don't NEED a drumset. I was more than willing to go home without it. My mental battle plan was that unless they would give me 20% off, I wouldn't buy. I figured it was a pretty safe bet that they wouldn't do that, so I was in little danger of buying the set. Unfortunately, they were in the mood to move some merchandise and raise some cash today. Found a nice bass pedal and hydraulic throne to complete the set and they actually agreed on 20% off. I was cornered! So now I have a rockin' set of Roland V-Drums in my home studio. A little background: I started taking guitar lessons in 1957. I have an older brother who was also taking guitar. Being older and having a head start of a few years, he was always going to be ahead of me. Rather than live in his shadow, I started drum lessons in addition to guitar in 1960 to set me apart from him. Many people had no idea that I even played guitar. I mostly kept it to myself, although I was still taking lessons ansd playing alot. I often played drums in bands with my brother on guitar. I played both instruments for a living in the late 60's and early 70's. When I couldn't find work as a guitarist, I worked as a drummer or bassist. I worked a lot as a result. I quit playing drums in 1975, and thereafter just played guitar, which was my first love. Since then, I've maybe played drums for a total of a few hours. I had absolutely no interest in it, and no longer considered myself a drummer. Didn't really miss it at all. .... Until recently when I started setting up this new digital recording studio. |
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wrote in message ... Well, I went to Guitar Center to check the set out. It was just what it seemed like from my research. The mesh heads feel great. I told the very nice young fella that I liked the set but it was just too much money. He suggested a lower model they had there with non-mesh pads. I told him that I wan't going to buy something that wasn't really what I wanted. I was either going to get the set I wanted or none. I really don't NEED a drumset. I was more than willing to go home without it. My mental battle plan was that unless they would give me 20% off, I wouldn't buy. I figured it was a pretty safe bet that they wouldn't do that, so I was in little danger of buying the set. Unfortunately, they were in the mood to move some merchandise and raise some cash today. Found a nice bass pedal and hydraulic throne to complete the set and they actually agreed on 20% off. I was cornered! So now I have a rockin' set of Roland V-Drums in my home studio. A little background: I started taking guitar lessons in 1957. I have an older brother who was also taking guitar. Being older and having a head start of a few years, he was always going to be ahead of me. Rather than live in his shadow, I started drum lessons in addition to guitar in 1960 to set me apart from him. Many people had no idea that I even played guitar. I mostly kept it to myself, although I was still taking lessons ansd playing alot. I often played drums in bands with my brother on guitar. I played both instruments for a living in the late 60's and early 70's. When I couldn't find work as a guitarist, I worked as a drummer or bassist. I worked a lot as a result. I quit playing drums in 1975, and thereafter just played guitar, which was my first love. Since then, I've maybe played drums for a total of a few hours. I had absolutely no interest in it, and no longer considered myself a drummer. Didn't really miss it at all. ... Until recently when I started setting up this new digital recording studio. I could smell the ending in your first paragraph. Congratulations! If you are like me, the set may sit unused for periods of time but when the mood strikes, the rewards are immeasurable. Cool ****. Eisboch |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:10:26 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact that companies are going out of business. Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had jobs, even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals that the unemployed numbers grow larger? I'm missing something somewhere. Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality of their service, products or internal culture. In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. Eisboch Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments. That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out of business that brings joy to the heart of a liberal? Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'? It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of the company. The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it? You missed the part where the brilliant management of Circuit City laid off all the older experienced staff a couple years ago and hired kids to "replace" them. I'm not kidding. That's exactly what they did. They thought they would improve the bottom line by saving what they were paying those competent, experienced salespeople, and hiring entry level youngsters with zero experience. |
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wrote in message ... You missed the part where the brilliant management of Circuit City laid off all the older experienced staff a couple years ago and hired kids to "replace" them. I'm not kidding. That's exactly what they did. They thought they would improve the bottom line by saving what they were paying those competent, experienced salespeople, and hiring entry level youngsters with zero experience. They were doing that a lot longer than a couple of years ago. Eisboch |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:41:09 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: wrote in message .. . You missed the part where the brilliant management of Circuit City laid off all the older experienced staff a couple years ago and hired kids to "replace" them. I'm not kidding. That's exactly what they did. They thought they would improve the bottom line by saving what they were paying those competent, experienced salespeople, and hiring entry level youngsters with zero experience. They were doing that a lot longer than a couple of years ago. Eisboch I just remember reading about it when they did a mass layoff and brought in cheaper replacemens. It got a lot of notice when it happened, although I don't remember exactly when it was. It was a boneheaded move, and now they are paying heavily for it. |
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wrote in message ... Yeah, but Donnie can take it, not like others in his gang who when challenged just go plain mental;) ************************************************** ********** You'd think by now I'd be smart enough not to offer any personal info............ |
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message ... Yeah, but Donnie can take it, not like others in his gang who when challenged just go plain mental;) ************************************************** ********** You'd think by now I'd be smart enough not to offer any personal info............ The best thing to do with litter baskets like Just Hate is to just ignore them entirely or dump cat crap on them. There's nothing about the little schitt that needs to be taken seriously: he's just a sick loser. Hell, look who his buddies are he Herring, Loogie, et al. |
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