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"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H
wrote:

Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman
pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it
to
the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it.

"I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said.

"We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said.

So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both
sides
of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied
with
the knife?"

"No," I said.

The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife."

The salesman was not happy. I was.

Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions.
I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement.
Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never
bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit.
Tools get lost or stolen more than they break.

--Vic

worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an
adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt
for
years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a
flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break
the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did
me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with
snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand
for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;)

I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool.
I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which
keeps me coming back for more.

My aunt worked in a Sears store. My uncle ran a garage. Was always
breaking sockets with the impact wrench. They store guy said he needed to
get impact sockets. Uncle told him these were cheap and since he was always
coming to the store to get wife, they just kepr replacing them. Salesguy
just laughed.

Multi-tool.
 

John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...





On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H
wrote:
Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman
pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to
the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it.
"I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said.
"We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said.
So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides
of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with
the knife?"
"No," I said.
The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife."
The salesman was not happy. I was.
Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions.
I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement.
Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never
bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit.
Tools get lost or stolen more than they break.
--Vic
worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an
adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for
years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a
flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break
the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did
me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with
snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand
for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;)

I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool.
I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which
keeps me coming back for more.

Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of
marketing it.

Multi-tool.
 

On Jan 7, 8:44*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:





On Jan 7, 7:44*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

. ..

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H
wrote:

Once upon a time, when I was about 17, *I had a Sears Craftsman
pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to
the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it.

"I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said.

"We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said.

So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides
of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with
the knife?"

"No," I said.

The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife."

The salesman was not happy. I was.

Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions.
I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement.
Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never
bothered replacing them. *Good excuse to get another whole kit.
Tools get lost or stolen more than they break.

--Vic

worst was a lot of years ago. *I was in Sears and guy brings in an
adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for
years. *Rusted solid. *They replaced it. *That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a
flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break
the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did
me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with
snap-along.... * Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand
for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;)

I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool..
I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which
keeps me coming back for more.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly
say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more
than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not..
Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one
of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s
the bed...

Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy
another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass
plastic junk...

Multi-tool.
 

Multi-tool.
 

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),

- Show quoted text -

Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly
say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more
than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not..
Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one
of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s
the bed...

Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy
another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass
plastic junk...

Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home
repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for
a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long,

It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand

Mac, or other
Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro
Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford
to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke.

While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can
charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that
their life time warranty is unique.

I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the
equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns
Snapon tools. The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also.

And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know
a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis
and you can get them for the money owed. That's how I got my set of
auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly
used.

--

Honesty is the best policy, but insanity
is a better defense.

Multi-tool.
 

John H wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...





On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H
wrote:
Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman
pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to
the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it.
"I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said.
"We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said.
So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides
of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with
the knife?"
"No," I said.
The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife."
The salesman was not happy. I was.
Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions.
I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement.
Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never
bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit.
Tools get lost or stolen more than they break.
--Vic
worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an
adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for
years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a
flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break
the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did
me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with
snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand
for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;)
I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool.
I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which
keeps me coming back for more.
Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of
marketing it.

....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool!

Just hang out at the local mechanic and wait.

Multi-tool.
 

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...





On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H
wrote:
Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman
pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to
the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it.
"I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said.
"We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said.
So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides
of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with
the knife?"
"No," I said.
The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife."
The salesman was not happy. I was.
Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions.
I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement.
Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never
bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit.
Tools get lost or stolen more than they break.
--Vic
worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an
adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for
years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a
flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break
the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did
me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with
snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand
for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;)

I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool.
I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which
keeps me coming back for more.

Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of
marketing it.

.....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool!

Multi-tool.
 

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),

- Show quoted text -

Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly
say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more
than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not..
Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one
of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s
the bed...

Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy
another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass
plastic junk...

Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home
repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for
a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, Mac, or other
Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro
Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford
to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke.

While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can
charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that
their life time warranty is unique.


Good morning.

I think Sears made their name with 'Father's Day Specials' and the way they
put together a pack of tools for under $40.

Multi-tool.
 

John H wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),
- Show quoted text -
Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly
say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more
than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not..
Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one
of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s
the bed...

Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy
another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass
plastic junk...
Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home
repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for
a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, Mac, or other
Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro
Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford
to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke.

While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can
charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that
their life time warranty is unique.


Good morning.

I think Sears made their name with 'Father's Day Specials' and the way they
put together a pack of tools for under $40.



Gillette used to do an ad for giving Dad a TracIII razor for Father's
Day. I made the mistake of commenting about what a terrible gift that
would be for Father's Day. For about 5 yrs, my kids would always give
me a new Gillette Razor as a gag gift.

Multi-tool.
 

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:44:53 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...





On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H
wrote:
Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman
pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to
the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it.
"I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said.
"We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said.
So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides
of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with
the knife?"
"No," I said.
The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife."
The salesman was not happy. I was.
Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions.
I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement.
Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never
bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit.
Tools get lost or stolen more than they break.
--Vic
worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an
adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for
years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a
flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break
the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did
me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with
snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand
for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;)
I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool.
I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which
keeps me coming back for more.
Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of
marketing it.

....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool!

Just hang out at the local mechanic and wait.

Snap-on man lives a block from here.

Casady