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On Jan 7, 10:44*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 9:56 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:47 am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk ============== OK...let me get this straight: 1) You read what he said, but did not comprehend all of it. 2) You posted a link which failed to prove your point. 3) You're not mature enough to admit you were wrong.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, you didn't "get this straight". Has absolutely nothing to do with maturity. Hell, your buddy Harry has been asked several times for an apology when proven wrong and has never done so. So, why should anybody apologize to someone who has never done so himself, and has done nothing but call that person vulgar childish names and insulted that person at every occasion? ======================= Translation: "But mom....the other kids were throwing rocks at the window too. How come I'm gettin' time out?"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, hell, I guess you've come back to be nothing more than a whining child huh? Let's try again, and see if this hits your brain. First, you'll never get a job as a translator, you just think you know what someone else is thinking. Second, apparently your brain didn't understand that AS I SAID TO BEGIN WITH, if Harry hadn't have instantly turned on the asshole-a-tron, he may have gotten an apology. Thirdly, I really don't give a crap what you think. Add to that the fact that you come back here only to be an ass, and well, the answer should come to you, grasshopper. |
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On Jan 7, 10:38*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 9:21 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:42 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message .... I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make a good suggestion and I can pass it along.. SNIP OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid set of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with at least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc). It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't really like the designs that have separate drivers for the screwdriver part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat. The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me. Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products) is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your average multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I can do without. Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when tools were commonly made to be used. So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it, please tell me what and why. /SNIP Thanks, Scotty Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join with a larger union. Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for the members. I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members. These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with. I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen current members plus a few past execs. Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please everyone.http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Did Harry help you with that tall tale? ************************************************** ********* Seems to me y'all down there are a real bettin' group. What do you wager that I can't produce a picture of two of the units with the obvious union patch and who knows...maybe the original receipt from Canadian Tire. I was the treasurer and acting president at time of close-up so I should still have the voucher/receipt here. Hurry up...the wife has been after me to trash all my old union documents......it has been beyond the 7 year period. (except for my last stint with the Guild)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How on earth would the above prove that you provided all of that to every member in your union? Besides, when we were discussing your angle that you think, like Harry, that people who don't use their real names are cowards, you said you weren't a betting man. Which is it? Either you are, or you aren't. ******************************************* Well, since you asked...I wouldn't consider this a true wager.... more like taking candy from a baby.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I also asked how in hell would a picture of an old union patch prove that you gave every member of your union all of the above? |
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:08:00 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:46:28 -0800 (PST), wrote: The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... Ya but... Those multi-tools aren't exactly small either. When I biked (pedal) I could carry what I needed. Forgot what your friend wanted - pliers? - but there's not many sizes to twist on any bike. Though I don't use them, and I don't like them, a Crescent wrench is better for cranking nuts than any pair of pliers. Somebody already wrote about a multi-tool pliers breaking. I can't imagine breaking a pliers, and I've cranked on a lot of them. And you need a slip joint in any set of pliers to get a good bite on more than one size thing. I'm spitting in the wind here anywhere, because the multi-tool Army is marching, and I'm just going to get run over. (-: --Vic I think my friend used his Leatherman pliers as a pry bar. It's for damn sure they didn't break under proper use. The thing is, Leatherman just replaced the tool. |
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... On Jan 7, 10:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 9:56 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:47 am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk ============== OK...let me get this straight: 1) You read what he said, but did not comprehend all of it. 2) You posted a link which failed to prove your point. 3) You're not mature enough to admit you were wrong.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, you didn't "get this straight". Has absolutely nothing to do with maturity. Hell, your buddy Harry has been asked several times for an apology when proven wrong and has never done so. So, why should anybody apologize to someone who has never done so himself, and has done nothing but call that person vulgar childish names and insulted that person at every occasion? ======================= Translation: "But mom....the other kids were throwing rocks at the window too. How come I'm gettin' time out?"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, hell, I guess you've come back to be nothing more than a whining child huh? Let's try again, and see if this hits your brain. First, you'll never get a job as a translator, you just think you know what someone else is thinking. Second, apparently your brain didn't understand that AS I SAID TO BEGIN WITH, if Harry hadn't have instantly turned on the asshole-a-tron, he may have gotten an apology. Thirdly, I really don't give a crap what you think. Add to that the fact that you come back here only to be an ass, and well, the answer should come to you, grasshopper. ================ Two messages ago, you said you had no reason to behave better than Harry, who you thought was badly behaved. Sounds like you've got no clue about personal responsibility if other people's behavior determines your own. |
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On Jan 7, 1:03*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 10:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .... On Jan 7, 9:56 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .... On Jan 7, 8:47 am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk ============== OK...let me get this straight: 1) You read what he said, but did not comprehend all of it. 2) You posted a link which failed to prove your point. 3) You're not mature enough to admit you were wrong.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, you didn't "get this straight". Has absolutely nothing to do with maturity. Hell, your buddy Harry has been asked several times for an apology when proven wrong and has never done so. So, why should anybody apologize to someone who has never done so himself, and has done nothing but call that person vulgar childish names and insulted that person at every occasion? ======================= Translation: "But mom....the other kids were throwing rocks at the window too. How come I'm gettin' time out?"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, hell, I guess you've come back to be nothing more than a whining child huh? Let's try again, and see if this hits your brain. First, you'll never get a job as a translator, you just think you know what someone else is thinking. Second, apparently your brain didn't understand that AS I SAID TO BEGIN WITH, if Harry hadn't have instantly turned on the asshole-a-tron, he may have gotten an apology. Thirdly, I really don't give a crap what you think. Add to that the fact that you come back here only to be an ass, and well, the answer should come to you, grasshopper. ================ Two messages ago, you said you had no reason to behave better than Harry, who you thought was badly behaved. Sounds like you've got no clue about personal responsibility if other people's behavior determines your own.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - WHOOOOOOOSH.............. Whew....boy..... |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 10:38 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 9:21 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:42 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make a good suggestion and I can pass it along.. SNIP OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid set of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with at least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc). It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't really like the designs that have separate drivers for the screwdriver part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat. The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me. Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products) is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your average multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I can do without. Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when tools were commonly made to be used. So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it, please tell me what and why. /SNIP Thanks, Scotty Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join with a larger union. Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for the members. I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members. These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with. I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen current members plus a few past execs. Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please everyone.http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Did Harry help you with that tall tale? ************************************************** ********* Seems to me y'all down there are a real bettin' group. What do you wager that I can't produce a picture of two of the units with the obvious union patch and who knows...maybe the original receipt from Canadian Tire. I was the treasurer and acting president at time of close-up so I should still have the voucher/receipt here. Hurry up...the wife has been after me to trash all my old union documents......it has been beyond the 7 year period. (except for my last stint with the Guild)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How on earth would the above prove that you provided all of that to every member in your union? Besides, when we were discussing your angle that you think, like Harry, that people who don't use their real names are cowards, you said you weren't a betting man. Which is it? Either you are, or you aren't. ******************************************* Well, since you asked...I wouldn't consider this a true wager.... more like taking candy from a baby.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I also asked how in hell would a picture of an old union patch prove that you gave every member of your union all of the above? ************************************************** **** We're all honorable men Can't you take my word for it? |
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... On Jan 7, 1:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 10:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 9:56 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:47 am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk ============== OK...let me get this straight: 1) You read what he said, but did not comprehend all of it. 2) You posted a link which failed to prove your point. 3) You're not mature enough to admit you were wrong.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, you didn't "get this straight". Has absolutely nothing to do with maturity. Hell, your buddy Harry has been asked several times for an apology when proven wrong and has never done so. So, why should anybody apologize to someone who has never done so himself, and has done nothing but call that person vulgar childish names and insulted that person at every occasion? ======================= Translation: "But mom....the other kids were throwing rocks at the window too. How come I'm gettin' time out?"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, hell, I guess you've come back to be nothing more than a whining child huh? Let's try again, and see if this hits your brain. First, you'll never get a job as a translator, you just think you know what someone else is thinking. Second, apparently your brain didn't understand that AS I SAID TO BEGIN WITH, if Harry hadn't have instantly turned on the asshole-a-tron, he may have gotten an apology. Thirdly, I really don't give a crap what you think. Add to that the fact that you come back here only to be an ass, and well, the answer should come to you, grasshopper. ================ Two messages ago, you said you had no reason to behave better than Harry, who you thought was badly behaved. Sounds like you've got no clue about personal responsibility if other people's behavior determines your own.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - WHOOOOOOOSH.............. Whew....boy..... =============== You seem to be having a problem interpreting YOUR OWN WORDS. |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:22:31 -0800 (PST),
wrote: On Jan 7, 9:50*am, wrote: On Jan 7, 8:47*am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Either way, I invited a guy from another group to keep up with this thread so let's all make a good impression please;) Here is what you need for your buddy. These things hold enough tools for me to almost field strip my bike (I don't carry a 36mm socket), they roll up into a small pouch, and they can be bungee corded anywhere on the bike. I've used one for years. Then your buddy can carry some decent tools. |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:47:04 -0500, "tak" wrote:
wrote in message ... I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make a good suggestion and I can pass it along.. SNIP OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid set of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with at least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc). It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't really like the designs that have separate drivers for the screwdriver part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat. The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me. Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products) is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your average multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I can do without. Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when tools were commonly made to be used. So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it, please tell me what and why. /SNIP Thanks, Scotty The perfect answer to multitools and priced to sell! Also could be helpful as a hook. ;-) http://www.hammacher.com/publish/746...=QSearch&ls=FA I like it. Someone was talking about shotgun chokes about a week ago. This thing has that problem resolved. "12/20-gauge shotgun choke tube tool" |
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On Jan 7, 3:57*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:22:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 9:50*am, wrote: On Jan 7, 8:47*am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Either way, I invited a guy from another group to keep up with this thread so let's all make a good impression please;) Here is what you need for your buddy. These things hold enough tools for me to almost field strip my bike (I don't carry a 36mm socket), they roll up into a small pouch, and they can be bungee corded anywhere on the bike. I've used one for years. Then your buddy can carry some decent tools.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Am I missing something? Did you intend a link? ;) |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:57:19 -0500, John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:22:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 9:50*am, wrote: On Jan 7, 8:47*am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Either way, I invited a guy from another group to keep up with this thread so let's all make a good impression please;) Here is what you need for your buddy. These things hold enough tools for me to almost field strip my bike (I don't carry a 36mm socket), they roll up into a small pouch, and they can be bungee corded anywhere on the bike. I've used one for years. Then your buddy can carry some decent tools. Whoops - http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/...l-p-18184.html or: http://tinyurl.com/8smlu3 |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:18:41 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:57*pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:22:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 9:50*am, wrote: On Jan 7, 8:47*am, Jim wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+ years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered standards, etc Excuse me? Leatherman tools rule. Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife? Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer. A decent tool box doesn't take up much space. If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it before I get rid of it. Already posted my address. --Vic The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... =========== If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing for your friend. That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has a knife, liar. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite... He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to harold.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Either way, I invited a guy from another group to keep up with this thread so let's all make a good impression please;) Here is what you need for your buddy. These things hold enough tools for me to almost field strip my bike (I don't carry a 36mm socket), they roll up into a small pouch, and they can be bungee corded anywhere on the bike. I've used one for years. Then your buddy can carry some decent tools.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Am I missing something? Did you intend a link? ;) Yup... http://tinyurl.com/8smlu3 Sorry. (...feeling stupid...) |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:01:11 -0500, John H
wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:08:00 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:46:28 -0800 (PST), wrote: The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... Ya but... Those multi-tools aren't exactly small either. When I biked (pedal) I could carry what I needed. Forgot what your friend wanted - pliers? - but there's not many sizes to twist on any bike. Though I don't use them, and I don't like them, a Crescent wrench is better for cranking nuts than any pair of pliers. Somebody already wrote about a multi-tool pliers breaking. I can't imagine breaking a pliers, and I've cranked on a lot of them. And you need a slip joint in any set of pliers to get a good bite on more than one size thing. I'm spitting in the wind here anywhere, because the multi-tool Army is marching, and I'm just going to get run over. (-: --Vic I think my friend used his Leatherman pliers as a pry bar. It's for damn sure they didn't break under proper use. Because he didn't bring the tool box with the prybar. (-: The thing is, Leatherman just replaced the tool. I've seen a guy use a Craftsman 3/4" drive ratchet as a hammer. Sears would replace it, no questions asked. But I get your point. --Vic |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:02:03 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:01:11 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:08:00 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:46:28 -0800 (PST), wrote: The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... Ya but... Those multi-tools aren't exactly small either. When I biked (pedal) I could carry what I needed. Forgot what your friend wanted - pliers? - but there's not many sizes to twist on any bike. Though I don't use them, and I don't like them, a Crescent wrench is better for cranking nuts than any pair of pliers. Somebody already wrote about a multi-tool pliers breaking. I can't imagine breaking a pliers, and I've cranked on a lot of them. And you need a slip joint in any set of pliers to get a good bite on more than one size thing. I'm spitting in the wind here anywhere, because the multi-tool Army is marching, and I'm just going to get run over. (-: --Vic I think my friend used his Leatherman pliers as a pry bar. It's for damn sure they didn't break under proper use. Because he didn't bring the tool box with the prybar. (-: The thing is, Leatherman just replaced the tool. I've seen a guy use a Craftsman 3/4" drive ratchet as a hammer. Sears would replace it, no questions asked. But I get your point. --Vic Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H
wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company. |
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On Jan 7, 7:44*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, *I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. *Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. *I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. *Rusted solid. *They replaced it. *That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:12:00 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic It is fun to throw the broken or rusted tools in a box, and eventually take them all to Sears. They'll replace them all, no questions asked, and then you've got a bunch of new tools to play with. |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more. My aunt worked in a Sears store. My uncle ran a garage. Was always breaking sockets with the impact wrench. They store guy said he needed to get impact sockets. Uncle told him these were cheap and since he was always coming to the store to get wife, they just kepr replacing them. Salesguy just laughed. |
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On Jan 7, 8:44*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, *I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. *Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. *I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. *Rusted solid. *They replaced it. *That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... * Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool.. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand Mac, or other Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns Snapon tools. The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also. And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis and you can get them for the money owed. That's how I got my set of auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly used. -- Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. |
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John H wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more. Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of marketing it. ....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool! Just hang out at the local mechanic and wait. |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more. Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of marketing it. .....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool! |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, Mac, or other Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. Good morning. I think Sears made their name with 'Father's Day Specials' and the way they put together a pack of tools for under $40. |
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John H wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, Mac, or other Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. Good morning. I think Sears made their name with 'Father's Day Specials' and the way they put together a pack of tools for under $40. Gillette used to do an ad for giving Dad a TracIII razor for Father's Day. I made the mistake of commenting about what a terrible gift that would be for Father's Day. For about 5 yrs, my kids would always give me a new Gillette Razor as a gag gift. |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:44:53 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more. Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of marketing it. ....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool! Just hang out at the local mechanic and wait. Snap-on man lives a block from here. Casady |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:16:17 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:44:53 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more. Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of marketing it. ....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool! Just hang out at the local mechanic and wait. Snap-on man lives a block from here. Casady I'd be a broke sumbitch if I had one living a block from my house! |
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On Jan 7, 5:02*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:01:11 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:08:00 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:46:28 -0800 (PST), wrote: The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room for a toolbox, even a small one... Ya but... Those multi-tools aren't exactly small either. When I biked (pedal) I could carry what I needed. Forgot what your friend wanted - pliers? - but there's not many sizes to twist on any bike. Though I don't use them, and I don't like them, a Crescent wrench is better for cranking nuts than any pair of pliers. Somebody already wrote about a multi-tool pliers breaking. I can't imagine breaking a pliers, and I've cranked on a lot of them. And you need a slip joint in any set of pliers to get a good bite on more than one size thing. I'm spitting in the wind here anywhere, because the multi-tool Army is marching, and I'm just going to get run over. *(-: --Vic I think my friend used his Leatherman pliers as a pry bar. It's for damn sure they didn't break under proper use. Because he didn't bring the tool box with the prybar. *(-: The thing is, Leatherman just replaced the tool. I've seen a guy use a Craftsman 3/4" drive ratchet as a hammer. Sears would replace it, no questions asked. But I get your point. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My uncle had a Craftsman 3/8" ratchet that he'd been abusing since he got out of the Navy, probably 35 years old or so at the time, and it finally broke. Replaced it with no problem. |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:44:53 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more. Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of marketing it. ....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool! Just hang out at the local mechanic and wait. Snap-on man lives a block from here. Casady Well there is the answer. JohnH, go visit Casady. |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:50:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:44:53 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:20:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:50 -0500, John H wrote: Once upon a time, when I was about 17, I had a Sears Craftsman pocketknife. I broke the point off. I took it to the store, showed it to the salesman, and asked that he replace it. He asked how I broke it. "I was throwing it at a tree to stick it," I said. "We can't replace it when you treat it like that," he said. So I asked him to get the manager, which he did. After hearing both sides of the story, the manager looked at me and asked, "Are you satisfied with the knife?" "No," I said. The manager looked at the salesman and said, "Give him a new knife." The salesman was not happy. I was. Yeah, I've heard before they do sometimes ask questions. I've used Craftsman for years and never asked for a replacement. Broke a couple screwdriver blades using them as a prybar, but never bothered replacing them. Good excuse to get another whole kit. Tools get lost or stolen more than they break. --Vic worst was a lot of years ago. I was in Sears and guy brings in an adjustable wrench that has obviously lived in the backyard in the dirt for years. Rusted solid. They replaced it. That was stupid of a company.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Screw the warrantee.... I was on the way to a wedding once. We got a flat out in the middle of nowhere and went to change it only to break the 1/2" wratchet at 4pm on a Sunday.. Lot's of good the warrantee did me, we totally missed the wedding. When I worked on cars, I went with snap-along.... Not to mention when you have a wrench in your hand for 8 hours you don't want that square ass Crapsman ****....;) I don't believe Craftsman tools are any better than any other decent tool. I've broken several of their sockets. But, they do have the warranty which keeps me coming back for more. Most tools have the same warranty, they have just done a great job of marketing it. ....and, the Snap-On truck is hard to track down when you want a tool! Just hang out at the local mechanic and wait. Snap-on man lives a block from here. Casady Well there is the answer. JohnH, go visit Casady. I would, but I don't have time. As soon as the frost delay is over at the golf course, I'm gone, unless the wind keeps picking up. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand Mac, or other Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns Snapon tools. The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also. And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis and you can get them for the money owed. That's how I got my set of auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly used. -- I kept my father's chest of snap-on tools when I shut down the boatyard. The flat and socket wrenches are first-rate, but the snap-on screwdrivers from that era didn't impress me. He also had a set of absolutely top drawer German-made wood handled screwdrivers that were much much better. |
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On Jan 8, 3:04*pm, hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. *They are not designed for a pro. *Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand Mac, or other Pro Brands. *Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns Snapon tools. *The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also.. And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis and you can get them for the money owed. *That's how I got my set of auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly used. -- I kept my father's chest of snap-on tools when I shut down the boatyard. The flat and socket wrenches are first-rate, but the snap-on screwdrivers from that era didn't impress me. He also had a set of absolutely top drawer German-made wood handled screwdrivers that were much much better.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, we believe you......... |
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On Jan 8, 7:34*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. *They are not designed for a pro. *Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand Mac, or other Pro Brands. *Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns Snapon tools. *The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also. And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis and you can get them for the money owed. *That's how I got my set of auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly used. -- Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep, I have a complete set of Husky 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" sockets, the black lazer etched ones, that are great tools. I also have there 11 drawer bottom tool box, 3 drawer intermediate, and 8 drawer top box, ball bearing glides, etc. |
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:34:58 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand Mac, or other Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns Snapon tools. The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also. And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis and you can get them for the money owed. That's how I got my set of auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly used. I've found that if I don't use a hammer to beat on the end of the ratchet, the Sears sockets last a lot longer. I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it. |
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 8, 7:34*am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. *They are not designed for a pro. *Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand Mac, or other Pro Brands. *Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns Snapon tools. *The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also. And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis and you can get them for the money owed. *That's how I got my set of auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly used. Yep, I have a complete set of Husky 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" sockets, the black lazer etched ones, that are great tools. I also have there 11 drawer bottom tool box, 3 drawer intermediate, and 8 drawer top box, ball bearing glides, etc. I gave each of the boys a set of Husky ratchets, socket and wrench sets when they graduated from high school. Then I discovered Kobolt tools at Lowe's so their boxes have a mixture of Husky and Kobolt hand tools now. The only thing I don't like about the Husky brand screwdrivers is that they seem a little cheap to me. I have Klien hand screwdrivers and cutters - things never wear out it seems - the cutters, not the screwdrivers. -- Alcohol & calculus don't mix. Never drink & derive. |
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"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 8, 7:34 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:02:14 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:44 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:50:29 -0800 (PST), - Show quoted text - Well, as someone who made my living with hand tools, I can honestly say I think quite the opposite.. Crapsman tools have failed me more than any other tool, they are crap in my opinion, warrantee or not.. Like I said, the warrantee doesn't cover the busted knuckle when one of their cheap wrenches snaps, or pay for the lost time when one ****s the bed... Snapalong, and Porter Cable are my preference...I will never buy another Craftsman gas or electric power tool again either, cheap ass plastic junk... Craftsman is made for the average home repairman, doing simple home repairs who really do not stress out a tool. They are not designed for a pro. Most homeowners don't want to pay for Snap-a-long, It's not Snapalong or Snap-a-long - It's Snapon. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?tool=hand Mac, or other Pro Brands. Sears tools are substantially less expensive than the Pro Tools. The pros buy expensive quality tools, because they can not afford to stop working so they can exchange a wrench that broke. While Sears makes a decent product for homeowner quality tools, they can charge more, because Sears has successful convinced many homeowners that their life time warranty is unique. I have found that Home Depot's Husky and Lowe's Kobolt tools to be the equal of Mac and Snapon - and that's speaking as somebody who owns Snapon tools. The higher end tool boxes are the equal of Snapon also. And you can get Snapon tools at a fairly inexpensive price if you know a Snapon franchise operator - they repossess tools on a regular basis and you can get them for the money owed. That's how I got my set of auto tools - paid about 1/3 of the new price and the tools were hardly used. Yep, I have a complete set of Husky 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" sockets, the black lazer etched ones, that are great tools. I also have there 11 drawer bottom tool box, 3 drawer intermediate, and 8 drawer top box, ball bearing glides, etc. I gave each of the boys a set of Husky ratchets, socket and wrench sets when they graduated from high school. Then I discovered Kobolt tools at Lowe's so their boxes have a mixture of Husky and Kobolt hand tools now. The only thing I don't like about the Husky brand screwdrivers is that they seem a little cheap to me. I have Klien hand screwdrivers and cutters - things never wear out it seems - the cutters, not the screwdrivers. -- Alcohol & calculus don't mix. Never drink & derive. One Christmas a couple years ago, I found a sale on Mastercraft screwdrivers from Canadian Tire at 60% off. I can't walk past a deal like that so I bought them for my #2 son. Now he delights in telling anyone who'll listen that I gave him a bag of screwdrivers for Christmas that year. |
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