Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:18:51 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.
I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.
Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.

Now, how about the alcohol?
I'm not in favor of excessive drinking. I am in favor of criminal
penalties for those who drink and drive. As in jail time...for the first
offense.

Not what I asked. Based on the personal and economic devastation
wrought on the American public by excessive drinking of alcohol, are
you in favor of increasing the taxes by triple or quadruple the
amounts now taxed in the same manner as tobacco?


Nope. I'm not opposed to a modest increase in taxes on alcohol, but I do
think the taxes on tobacco products should at least double every year
until they are so expensive no one can afford them. Most people who do
enjoy a drink or two once in a while never become alcoholics, and modest
drinking is not obnoxious to other people. Smoking is obnoxious, period.
The smell is awful and if you are exposed to a smoker, his cloud of
effluent makes your clothes and hair stink as badly as his do.

Sorry I am not as "consistent" as you would like, but I really believe
smoking is the foulest of habits.

hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.
I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.

Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.

Now, how about the alcohol?


I'm not in favor of excessive drinking. I am in favor of criminal
penalties for those who drink and drive. As in jail time...for the first
offense.

Sitting in resstaurant next to someone enjoying a drink does not
interfere with my meal. Sitting next to a smoker ruins the meal because
of the stench.

The restaurant should be able to make a choice as to whether it allows
smoking or not.

Maryland has banned smoking in restaurants, as have other states.

The should ban alcohol consumption too. People have been killed after
having consumed alcoholic drinks in those restaurants.

hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.
I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.

Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.

Now, how about the alcohol?


I'm not in favor of excessive drinking. I am in favor of criminal
penalties for those who drink and drive. As in jail time...for the first
offense.

Sitting in resstaurant next to someone enjoying a drink does not
interfere with my meal. Sitting next to a smoker ruins the meal because
of the stench.

Maryland has banned smoking in restaurants, as have other states.
There aren't enough jails to house your m13 buddies. where you going to
put all the drinkers.

On Jan 5, 10:18*pm, hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:





On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.
I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.

Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.

Now, how about the alcohol?

I'm not in favor of excessive drinking. I am in favor of criminal
penalties for those who drink and drive. As in jail time...for the first
offense.

Sitting in resstaurant next to someone enjoying a drink does not
interfere with my meal. Sitting next to a smoker ruins the meal because
of the stench.

Maryland has banned smoking in restaurants, as have other states.- Hide quoted text -

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Well, then if there is a ban in restaurants, your meal isn't ruined by
someone smoking, just like your meal isn't ruined because of someone
having a drink. I have, indeed, had meals ruined by someone drinking
to excess.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message news
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.

I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.

Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.

Now, how about the alcohol?

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

As Scott mentioned, harry's response had absolutely nothing to do with the
thread you began. His rebuttal to your follow up, again had nothing to do
with the thread. What does smoking have to do with booze? This is his M.O.
in *every* thread. This will now grow to a long winded, flaming, personal
attack thread. As is every other one that harry contributes to. Yes, I'm
part of it, and I apologize. I will not respond to this thread again.

Oh yeah, I notice that the only threads that don't get out of hand, are the
ones that harry starts... no one responds. What a surprise.

--Mike

On Jan 5, 11:14*pm, "Mike" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenewsdi5m4l4462l2r3sp6agcs9bln3iltk5d9@4ax .com...





On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.

I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.

Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.

Now, how about the alcohol?

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

As Scott mentioned, harry's response had absolutely nothing to do with the
thread you began. His rebuttal to your follow up, again had nothing to do
with the thread. What does smoking have to do with booze? This is his M.O..
in *every* thread. This will now grow to a long winded, flaming, personal
attack thread. As is every other one that harry contributes to. Yes, I'm
part of it, and I apologize. I will not respond to this thread again.

Oh yeah, I notice that the only threads that don't get out of hand, are the
ones that harry starts... no one responds. What a surprise.

--Mike- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, just so you know.. The attack was aimed at Tom who is well known
for enjoying a good cigar here and there.... You are right, it is his
M.O... it has been for over a decade.

wrote:
On Jan 5, 11:14 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenewsdi5m4l4462l2r3sp6agcs9bln3iltk5d9@4ax .com...





On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html
Here's what I want to know:
5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.
I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.
Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.
Now, how about the alcohol?
--
"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."
Theodore Roosevelt.
As Scott mentioned, harry's response had absolutely nothing to do with the
thread you began. His rebuttal to your follow up, again had nothing to do
with the thread. What does smoking have to do with booze? This is his M.O.
in *every* thread. This will now grow to a long winded, flaming, personal
attack thread. As is every other one that harry contributes to. Yes, I'm
part of it, and I apologize. I will not respond to this thread again.

Oh yeah, I notice that the only threads that don't get out of hand, are the
ones that harry starts... no one responds. What a surprise.

--Mike- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, just so you know.. The attack was aimed at Tom who is well known
for enjoying a good cigar here and there.... You are right, it is his
M.O... it has been for over a decade.
My rant of a reply misdirected to intent is none the less my sentiment.
I cannot understand how Americans are sinking to European Socialism and
herd management by taxation by government obligated to special interests
and not the People.

wrote:
On Jan 5, 11:14 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenewsdi5m4l4462l2r3sp6agcs9bln3iltk5d9@4ax .com...





On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html
Here's what I want to know:
5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.
I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.
Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.
Now, how about the alcohol?
--
"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."
Theodore Roosevelt.
As Scott mentioned, harry's response had absolutely nothing to do with the
thread you began. His rebuttal to your follow up, again had nothing to do
with the thread. What does smoking have to do with booze? This is his M.O.
in *every* thread. This will now grow to a long winded, flaming, personal
attack thread. As is every other one that harry contributes to. Yes, I'm
part of it, and I apologize. I will not respond to this thread again.

Oh yeah, I notice that the only threads that don't get out of hand, are the
ones that harry starts... no one responds. What a surprise.

--Mike- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, just so you know.. The attack was aimed at Tom who is well known
for enjoying a good cigar here and there.... You are right, it is his
M.O... it has been for over a decade.


Wrong, Lucky Strike breath. Tom posted a rant against alcohol because he
is upset over cigar taxes. I simply responded in kind without belaboring
it. Not everything fits into your simple-minded little world of black or
white.

I'm appalled by Tom's continued consumption of tobacco products. He's a
smart guy and knows better.

On Jan 5, 10:02*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:25 -0500, hk wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.

I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.

Great - that's wonderful that you have an actual opinon on the subject
of smoking.

Now, how about the alcohol?

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

I didnt know you were a reformed alcoholic, Tom.

"hk" wrote in message
m...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/business/06smoke.html

Here's what I want to know:

5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are
attributed to alcohol.


I'm in favor of banning the growth and sale of all tobacco products.
Thought you'd like to know that.


But people want it. And it is less dangerous than alcohol. Will the
tobacco companies stop paying the money the states collected and borrowed
against with the new taxes seeming to violate the agreement between the
government and tobacco. This country was founded on freedom of choice.
1984 is happening.