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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** John H |
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On Dec 31, 1:47*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** * * John H in less time than that.But you have to wait until Jan. 20. But he's probably got a running start on it already. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. |
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"Don White" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. |
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Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. Wrong. You are compelled to pay for recycling. If you don't pay the recycling "fee" you may have your property confiscated from you at point of a gun. |
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Boater wrote:
Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia. |
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On Dec 31, 3:52 pm, Boater wrote:
Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Here (Tallahassee) Sewage is sprayed onto special fields where hay is grown for the purpose of using said hay for preventing erosion at construction sites. Unfortunately, this caused nutrients to seep into ground water and as a result many of the local springs have turned green from algae. A small community near here uses it to fertilize planted pines that will be sold for profit. The real answer discussed in that article is probably most right, separate urine and feces. I'd like to develop a system for homes far from sewage lines whereby feces are spun in a thing like a washing machine causing liquids to be spun out. The resulting mass would be scraped off and then dried with a solar dryer, compacted into bricks and later collected like garbage. This would eliminate the necessity to run expensive sewer lines to each home. However, what to do with the liquid waste? First you separate grey water from urine and leftover water from the feces. Then you use some sort of electrical ozone generator to sterilize it. Then the tough part comes, removing the nutrients............ This all reminds me of a crazy project in the building where i started my company. One of the building owners was a crazed biologist entrepreneur who had devised a way to turn the fecal matter from chicken farms back into high protein chicken feed ( apparently chickens are not very efficient critters so a lot of protein stays in their feces). He wanted to know if I wanted to be involved and I told him that it sounded Waaaaay to much like perpetual motion for my tastes. Besides, it stank. I think there is money in ****. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. Wrong. You are compelled to pay for recycling. If you don't pay the recycling "fee" you may have your property confiscated from you at point of a gun. What police state do YOU live in? |
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"BAR" wrote in message
... Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia. Does that mean we shouldn't improve certain practices until everyone else does? |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:50:37 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. It isn't birth rates, it is death rates. Birth rates in developed countries, are not large enough to maintain the population. That's one of the reasons we need immigrants to sustain our Ponzi economy. Death rates, however... Infant mortality is down. Life expectancy is up. |
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t... On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:50:37 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. It isn't birth rates, it is death rates. Birth rates in developed countries, are not large enough to maintain the population. That's one of the reasons we need immigrants to sustain our Ponzi economy. Death rates, however... Infant mortality is down. Life expectancy is up. Interesting point. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:41:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I say we start with Canada... |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:22:29 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:
I'd like to develop a system for homes far from sewage lines whereby feces are spun in a thing like a washing machine causing liquids to be spun out. The resulting mass would be scraped off and then dried with a solar dryer, compacted into bricks and later collected like garbage. This would eliminate the necessity to run expensive sewer lines to each home. However, what to do with the liquid waste? First you separate grey water from urine and leftover water from the feces. Then you use some sort of electrical ozone generator to sterilize it. Then the tough part comes, removing the nutrients............ Are you familiar with composting toilets? Except for the grey water, it's pretty much what you are describing, if I'm understanding you correctly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia. Does that mean we shouldn't improve certain practices until everyone else does? Yes. If it is good for us it is good for everyone. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. Wrong. You are compelled to pay for recycling. If you don't pay the recycling "fee" you may have your property confiscated from you at point of a gun. What police state do YOU live in? People's Republic of Montgomery County in the Democratic Republic of Maryland. Our motto is "Your money is our money." |
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"BAR" wrote in message
... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia. Does that mean we shouldn't improve certain practices until everyone else does? Yes. If it is good for us it is good for everyone. So, you think we should freeze technology until Africa catches up with the program. That's nonsense, of course, but you're not here to say things which make sense. Try again tomorrow if and when you're sober. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. Wrong. You are compelled to pay for recycling. If you don't pay the recycling "fee" you may have your property confiscated from you at point of a gun. What police state do YOU live in? People's Republic of Montgomery County in the Democratic Republic of Maryland. Our motto is "Your money is our money." Even so, nobody forces you to actually put the recycling bin out on the curb each week. Right? |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:36:25 -0500, BAR wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet One question, New York City? Not my field of expertise ;-), but it might be doable. Without using water, the volume is considerably less. Everything is centrally located. There are high volume composting systems, but retrofitting could be a bitch. You have to question how it is done now. Hopefully, the water treatment is better than is was 20 years ago when you could see hundreds of Coney Island Whitefish floating in the NY harbor. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Coney_Island_whitefish |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:12:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 31, 1:47*pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** * * John H in less time than that.But you have to wait until Jan. 20. But he's probably got a running start on it already. You say he's got the runs already? Hell, he's part of the problem then. -- ** Good Day! ** John H |
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"Boater" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. But think for a second Harry. The kid that was not conceived or the one that was aborted might have grown up to become another Einstein, Louie Pasteur, Marie Curie or Harry Krause. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:50:37 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. When I was a kid, overpopulation was already an issue and the limit of two was already the 'solution'. Hasn't worked at all. As long as the Roman Catholic Church maintains its stance on birth control, I believe the overpopulation will get worse. -- ** Good Day! ** John H |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. One thing that could be done is to limit income tax deductions for dependent children to no more that 2 kids. Have more than that and you get no further tax deduction. Now it's a choice. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. But think for a second Harry. The kid that was not conceived or the one that was aborted might have grown up to become another Einstein, Louie Pasteur, Marie Curie or Harry Krause. Eisboch Or...another Loogy or Reggie or Florida Jim. Better to use a condom and prevent that sort of accident. |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia. That's the problem. The developed world has pretty well cut back but how do you tell developing cultures. It'll take quite a while. |
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"Tom Francis" wrote in message ... On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:41:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I say we start with Canada... Our leaders say were just the opposite. We need at least 250k immigrants each year to maintain services for an aging population. |
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"Don White" wrote in message
... "BAR" wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia. That's the problem. The developed world has pretty well cut back but how do you tell developing cultures. It'll take quite a while. Cut back? Most of them never had sanitations measures which we consider basic. Read the article. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... I don't go around interviewing Catholics, but is the church's rule about birth control really still such a powerful issue for them? I mean, are people still that goofy? In a word, No. Those days are long gone. Eisboch |
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On Dec 31, 8:02 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tom Francis" wrote in message ... On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:41:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I say we start with Canada... Our leaders say were just the opposite. We need at least 250k immigrants each year to maintain services for an aging population. I disagree with almost everybody here, the problem will NOT be overpopulation but will be underpopulation. Every western nation expects to have a population crisis within 50 years due to NOT ENOUGH people. Japan is in such bad shape that thye are having to develop robots to take care of old people. The solution is to bring the entire world up to our standard of living so we have that many more minds to help solve the minor local problems population causes while also making everything better. We truly are better oiff with all those ppl in India working on high tech stuff instead of subsistence farming. People with good braisn should be doing stuff that uses their brains, not subsistence farming. We need more people in the USA to have kids. We need smart people to have more smart kids. I wish I had had more than 3 but am too old now. Dont be foolhardy pessimists, be techno-optimists, otherwise we will all starve. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... I don't go around interviewing Catholics, but is the church's rule about birth control really still such a powerful issue for them? I mean, are people still that goofy? In a word, No. Those days are long gone. Eisboch Well, bless them anyway. Within 10 minutes of my home, on Fridays, there are at least a dozen spectacular fish fry possibilities to be had. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... I don't go around interviewing Catholics, but is the church's rule about birth control really still such a powerful issue for them? I mean, are people still that goofy? In a word, No. Those days are long gone. Eisboch Well, bless them anyway. Within 10 minutes of my home, on Fridays, there are at least a dozen spectacular fish fry possibilities to be had. Tradition. The "no meat on Fridays" rule went out years ago due to lack of interest. Eisboch |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:50:37 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed. After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to force us to do that. When I was a kid, overpopulation was already an issue and the limit of two was already the 'solution'. Hasn't worked at all. As long as the Roman Catholic Church maintains its stance on birth control, I believe the overpopulation will get worse. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Lets just say any religion burried in the past does this, I don't think it is limited to Catholics. Muslim/Islam and others could be included quite easily in the statement and be at least as accurate. |
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On Dec 31 2008, 2:47*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** * * John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. |
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On Dec 31 2008, 3:52*pm, Boater wrote:
Don White wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ There's just way too many people in the world today. We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few generations or we'll all be over run. I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have more than one or two kids. Or cats or dogs. Animal shelters are over run by cats and dogs that are unwanted. |
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... On Dec 31 2008, 2:47 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. ================== I think Obama makes his doubters nervous and perhaps defensive because he can speak English. He can correctly assemble plural and singular verbs & nouns, something Bush had difficulty with. This makes Obama an elitist in the eyes of his doubters, although these are the same people who also like to complain about the "failed education system". When the "system" succeeds, it produces elitists. The "system" just can't win. :-) To understand this twisted way of thinking, you have to be from a certain part of the country: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g?t=1230822728 |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:04:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 31 2008, 2:47 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. Who has made conclusions that Obama will be a bad president? Bush wasn't a miserable failure. His accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan are remarkable. If it hadn't been for the Barney Frank crowd, he would have had a great economy going for him. John H Too bad he failed to punish the country responsible for attacking us. |
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:04:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 31 2008, 2:47*pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** * * John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. Who has made conclusions that Obama will be a bad president? Bush wasn't a miserable failure. His accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan are remarkable. If it hadn't been for the Barney Frank crowd, he would have had a great economy going for him. -- ** Good Day! ** John H |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:17:53 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:04:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 31 2008, 2:47 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. Who has made conclusions that Obama will be a bad president? Bush wasn't a miserable failure. His accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan are remarkable. If it hadn't been for the Barney Frank crowd, he would have had a great economy going for him. John H Too bad he failed to punish the country responsible for attacking us. What country would you have had him 'punish'? John H The country which you think cannot be attacked because you've been told they're our ally, and you actually believe that nonsense. |
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