"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:50:37 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.



True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I
believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to
limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed.
After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to
force us to do that.


When I was a kid, overpopulation was already an issue and the limit of two
was already the 'solution'. Hasn't worked at all.

As long as the Roman Catholic Church maintains its stance on birth
control,
I believe the overpopulation will get worse.
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** Good Day! **

John H

Lets just say any religion burried in the past does this, I don't think it
is limited to Catholics. Muslim/Islam and others could be included quite
easily in the statement and be at least as accurate.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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(considering what hasn't changed here in this NG)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.



True, but many will think that means government control, as in China. I
believe enough in people to think that if we were told "It would help to
limit the family to 2 kids", quite a few would do that. No laws needed.
After all, most of us recycle, and nobody's holding a gun to our heads to
force us to do that.


One thing that could be done is to limit income tax deductions for dependent
children to no more that 2 kids.
Have more than that and you get no further tax deduction.

Now it's a choice.

Eisboch

Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.



I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have
more than one or two kids.

Boater wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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(considering what hasn't changed here in this NG)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.


I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have
more than one or two kids.

Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia.

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Boater wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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(considering what hasn't changed here in this NG)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.


I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have
more than one or two kids.

Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia.



Does that mean we shouldn't improve certain practices until everyone else
does?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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Boater wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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(considering what hasn't changed here in this NG)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/
There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.

I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have
more than one or two kids.
Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia.



Does that mean we shouldn't improve certain practices until everyone else
does?

Yes. If it is good for us it is good for everyone.

"BAR" wrote in message
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Boater wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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(considering what hasn't changed here in this NG)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.


I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have
more than one or two kids.

Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia.


That's the problem. The developed world has pretty well cut back but how do
you tell developing cultures.
It'll take quite a while.

"Don White" wrote in message
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Boater wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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(considering what hasn't changed here in this NG)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.


I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have
more than one or two kids.

Why don't you start preaching that to Africa, Middle East and Asia.


That's the problem. The developed world has pretty well cut back but how
do you tell developing cultures.
It'll take quite a while.


Cut back? Most of them never had sanitations measures which we consider
basic. Read the article.

On Dec 31, 3:52 pm, Boater wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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(considering what hasn't changed here in this NG)

http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/

There's just way too many people in the world today.
We have to come up with a way to 'thin the herd' over the next few
generations or we'll all be over run.

I agree completely, and I think it inappropriate for families to have
more than one or two kids.

Here (Tallahassee) Sewage is sprayed onto special fields where hay is
grown for the purpose of using said hay for preventing erosion at
construction sites. Unfortunately, this caused nutrients to seep into
ground water and as a result many of the local springs have turned
green from algae.
A small community near here uses it to fertilize planted pines that
will be sold for profit.
The real answer discussed in that article is probably most right,
separate urine and feces.
I'd like to develop a system for homes far from sewage lines whereby
feces are spun in a thing like a washing machine causing liquids to be
spun out. The resulting mass would be scraped off and then dried with
a solar dryer, compacted into bricks and later collected like
garbage. This would eliminate the necessity to run expensive sewer
lines to each home. However, what to do with the liquid waste? First
you separate grey water from urine and leftover water from the feces.
Then you use some sort of electrical ozone generator to sterilize it.
Then the tough part comes, removing the nutrients............

This all reminds me of a crazy project in the building where i started
my company. One of the building owners was a crazed biologist
entrepreneur who had devised a way to turn the fecal matter from
chicken farms back into high protein chicken feed ( apparently
chickens are not very efficient critters so a lot of protein stays in
their feces). He wanted to know if I wanted to be involved and I told
him that it sounded Waaaaay to much like perpetual motion for my
tastes. Besides, it stank.

I think there is money in ****.

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:22:29 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:


I'd like to develop a system for homes far from sewage lines whereby
feces are spun in a thing like a washing machine causing liquids to be
spun out. The resulting mass would be scraped off and then dried with a
solar dryer, compacted into bricks and later collected like garbage.
This would eliminate the necessity to run expensive sewer lines to each
home. However, what to do with the liquid waste? First you separate
grey water from urine and leftover water from the feces. Then you use
some sort of electrical ozone generator to sterilize it. Then the tough
part comes, removing the nutrients............

Are you familiar with composting toilets? Except for the grey water,
it's pretty much what you are describing, if I'm understanding you
correctly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet