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"John H" wrote in message
... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:57:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:27:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message m... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:04:05 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:bvhsl4lvnjimgtem3nr58smht54h859o6u@4ax. com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:33:41 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:iagsl49ru4iivi4odlhis7fcvf4oleltgi@4a x.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:26:14 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:ckcsl4lmodfghgp7lfd3lbfm3593j0gc5c@ 4ax.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:15:43 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 2, 10:10 am, John H wrote: Using your logic, should we not wreak havoc on Mexico? Yes, but in a way that's appropriate to the issue. Good, an answer. What does 'appropriate to the issue' mean in your usage? And, additionally, should we not 'punish' *any* country whose citizens or leaders expressed happiness after the 9/11 incident? Nope. That's not a good way to use our soldiers, although that doesn't matter to you. Doug, have you ever noticed that YOU, when asked a question, will ignore the question, quickly change the subject, or BEGIN WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS, rather than simply answer the question? Are you prepared to discuss the way the Saudis caused the deaths of more soldiers in Iraq than anyone other foreign power in the region? Are you now *CHANGING THE SUBJECT* again? If you are not prepared to discuss this issue, please explain why. Is there something in the article which you believe to be inaccurate? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...ghters.html?_r... From your (unbiased) source: "The data show that despite increased efforts by Saudi Arabia to clamp down on would-be terrorists since Sept. 11, 2001, when 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, some Saudi fighters are still getting through." Note also that the entire article is "...according to senior American military officials." In other words, probably bull****. You deny being a liberal but base your 'arguments' on the NY Times. 'Nuff said. John, you are in a labrynth of misquoted facts and intellecual dishonesty. You are right about Mexico though. It is a pretty well documented fact that Vicente Fox encouraged and supported the Mexican incursion into the US in his time as President of Mexico. The corruption and gangland style of government is flowing over to the US and between the border scirmishes and the gangs he has sent here we have lost more US citizens than we lost in 9/11. But either way, Joe is not interested in such facts, just winning little arguments here. One wonders why he came back.. ================= Are you saying that if we adopt a policy in a certain part of the world, we must be consistent and adopt it everywhere else too? Did he say that? Wow. I missed it. Yes, and so did you. You're trying to divert the conversation to include Mexico, which is an entirely different animal from Saudi Arabia. No, I'm pouring an analogy over your head. You just don't like it. I see Mexico's government as a hopelessly corrupt and badly orchestrated mess. Not quite the same as Saudi Arabia. Quite a few of our diplomats and intelligence officials see Saudi Arabia the same way. What's your next move? This old ploy? "Well, how come these people are all FORMER diplomats or FORMER CIA agents? What did they do wrong?" Forget it. That doesn't work. I'm glad you see Mexico's government the way you do, but it's not pertinent to the discussion. The question on the table is, " How many lives must be taken to warrant the punishment of the country. And, who must do the orchestrating?" Your answer: More than 82 lives in one carefully orchestrated attack. And who must do the orchestrating? Anyone. But, it's unlikely that you can pin individual rape or robbery incidents on the Mexican government. On the other hand, we have loads of information which proves that the Saudi royal family donates funds directly to schools which train lunatics. Why not 79 lives in two carefully orchestrated attacks? Because I told you 82 was the number. We have a school right here in Alexandria that has been accused multiple times of teaching anti-US sentiment. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but it suggests that your Bush-bashing about Saudi Arabia should be spread around. http://tinyurl.com/a3arge You *never* saw me say that Clinton did not receive the same bribes as Bush-1, Bush-2, and all presidents back as far as Nixon. If you disagree, find where I claimed that Clinton was clean of Saudi bribes. Your rationale for the number, 82, doesn't cut it. You asked for a number. No matter what number I gave you, you would disagree with it. You know that. Good, so we're done. Here - chew on this number: 2973 By the way, if the 9/11 thugs were not working directly with any particular government, then why did GWB work so hard to create the impression that there WAS a government involved? |
#142
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Completely On Topic: Sewage Crisis
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:37:00 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:57:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:27:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message om... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:04:05 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:bvhsl4lvnjimgtem3nr58smht54h859o6u@4ax .com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:33:41 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:iagsl49ru4iivi4odlhis7fcvf4oleltgi@4 ax.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:26:14 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:ckcsl4lmodfghgp7lfd3lbfm3593j0gc5c @4ax.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:15:43 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 2, 10:10 am, John H wrote: Using your logic, should we not wreak havoc on Mexico? Yes, but in a way that's appropriate to the issue. Good, an answer. What does 'appropriate to the issue' mean in your usage? And, additionally, should we not 'punish' *any* country whose citizens or leaders expressed happiness after the 9/11 incident? Nope. That's not a good way to use our soldiers, although that doesn't matter to you. Doug, have you ever noticed that YOU, when asked a question, will ignore the question, quickly change the subject, or BEGIN WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS, rather than simply answer the question? Are you prepared to discuss the way the Saudis caused the deaths of more soldiers in Iraq than anyone other foreign power in the region? Are you now *CHANGING THE SUBJECT* again? If you are not prepared to discuss this issue, please explain why. Is there something in the article which you believe to be inaccurate? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...ghters.html?_r... From your (unbiased) source: "The data show that despite increased efforts by Saudi Arabia to clamp down on would-be terrorists since Sept. 11, 2001, when 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, some Saudi fighters are still getting through." Note also that the entire article is "...according to senior American military officials." In other words, probably bull****. You deny being a liberal but base your 'arguments' on the NY Times. 'Nuff said. John, you are in a labrynth of misquoted facts and intellecual dishonesty. You are right about Mexico though. It is a pretty well documented fact that Vicente Fox encouraged and supported the Mexican incursion into the US in his time as President of Mexico. The corruption and gangland style of government is flowing over to the US and between the border scirmishes and the gangs he has sent here we have lost more US citizens than we lost in 9/11. But either way, Joe is not interested in such facts, just winning little arguments here. One wonders why he came back.. ================= Are you saying that if we adopt a policy in a certain part of the world, we must be consistent and adopt it everywhere else too? Did he say that? Wow. I missed it. Yes, and so did you. You're trying to divert the conversation to include Mexico, which is an entirely different animal from Saudi Arabia. No, I'm pouring an analogy over your head. You just don't like it. I see Mexico's government as a hopelessly corrupt and badly orchestrated mess. Not quite the same as Saudi Arabia. Quite a few of our diplomats and intelligence officials see Saudi Arabia the same way. What's your next move? This old ploy? "Well, how come these people are all FORMER diplomats or FORMER CIA agents? What did they do wrong?" Forget it. That doesn't work. I'm glad you see Mexico's government the way you do, but it's not pertinent to the discussion. The question on the table is, " How many lives must be taken to warrant the punishment of the country. And, who must do the orchestrating?" Your answer: More than 82 lives in one carefully orchestrated attack. And who must do the orchestrating? Anyone. But, it's unlikely that you can pin individual rape or robbery incidents on the Mexican government. On the other hand, we have loads of information which proves that the Saudi royal family donates funds directly to schools which train lunatics. Why not 79 lives in two carefully orchestrated attacks? Because I told you 82 was the number. We have a school right here in Alexandria that has been accused multiple times of teaching anti-US sentiment. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but it suggests that your Bush-bashing about Saudi Arabia should be spread around. http://tinyurl.com/a3arge You *never* saw me say that Clinton did not receive the same bribes as Bush-1, Bush-2, and all presidents back as far as Nixon. If you disagree, find where I claimed that Clinton was clean of Saudi bribes. Your rationale for the number, 82, doesn't cut it. You asked for a number. No matter what number I gave you, you would disagree with it. You know that. Good, so we're done. Here - chew on this number: 2973 By the way, if the 9/11 thugs were not working directly with any particular government, then why did GWB work so hard to create the impression that there WAS a government involved? Which government? |
#143
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Completely On Topic: Sewage Crisis
"John H" wrote in message
news On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:37:00 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:57:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:27:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:6bqsl4dt9tjergp1ihc4tabs3iee28qfhd@4ax. com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:04:05 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:bvhsl4lvnjimgtem3nr58smht54h859o6u@4a x.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:33:41 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:iagsl49ru4iivi4odlhis7fcvf4oleltgi@ 4ax.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:26:14 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:ckcsl4lmodfghgp7lfd3lbfm3593j0gc5 ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:15:43 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 2, 10:10 am, John H wrote: Using your logic, should we not wreak havoc on Mexico? Yes, but in a way that's appropriate to the issue. Good, an answer. What does 'appropriate to the issue' mean in your usage? And, additionally, should we not 'punish' *any* country whose citizens or leaders expressed happiness after the 9/11 incident? Nope. That's not a good way to use our soldiers, although that doesn't matter to you. Doug, have you ever noticed that YOU, when asked a question, will ignore the question, quickly change the subject, or BEGIN WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS, rather than simply answer the question? Are you prepared to discuss the way the Saudis caused the deaths of more soldiers in Iraq than anyone other foreign power in the region? Are you now *CHANGING THE SUBJECT* again? If you are not prepared to discuss this issue, please explain why. Is there something in the article which you believe to be inaccurate? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...ghters.html?_r... From your (unbiased) source: "The data show that despite increased efforts by Saudi Arabia to clamp down on would-be terrorists since Sept. 11, 2001, when 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, some Saudi fighters are still getting through." Note also that the entire article is "...according to senior American military officials." In other words, probably bull****. You deny being a liberal but base your 'arguments' on the NY Times. 'Nuff said. John, you are in a labrynth of misquoted facts and intellecual dishonesty. You are right about Mexico though. It is a pretty well documented fact that Vicente Fox encouraged and supported the Mexican incursion into the US in his time as President of Mexico. The corruption and gangland style of government is flowing over to the US and between the border scirmishes and the gangs he has sent here we have lost more US citizens than we lost in 9/11. But either way, Joe is not interested in such facts, just winning little arguments here. One wonders why he came back.. ================= Are you saying that if we adopt a policy in a certain part of the world, we must be consistent and adopt it everywhere else too? Did he say that? Wow. I missed it. Yes, and so did you. You're trying to divert the conversation to include Mexico, which is an entirely different animal from Saudi Arabia. No, I'm pouring an analogy over your head. You just don't like it. I see Mexico's government as a hopelessly corrupt and badly orchestrated mess. Not quite the same as Saudi Arabia. Quite a few of our diplomats and intelligence officials see Saudi Arabia the same way. What's your next move? This old ploy? "Well, how come these people are all FORMER diplomats or FORMER CIA agents? What did they do wrong?" Forget it. That doesn't work. I'm glad you see Mexico's government the way you do, but it's not pertinent to the discussion. The question on the table is, " How many lives must be taken to warrant the punishment of the country. And, who must do the orchestrating?" Your answer: More than 82 lives in one carefully orchestrated attack. And who must do the orchestrating? Anyone. But, it's unlikely that you can pin individual rape or robbery incidents on the Mexican government. On the other hand, we have loads of information which proves that the Saudi royal family donates funds directly to schools which train lunatics. Why not 79 lives in two carefully orchestrated attacks? Because I told you 82 was the number. We have a school right here in Alexandria that has been accused multiple times of teaching anti-US sentiment. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but it suggests that your Bush-bashing about Saudi Arabia should be spread around. http://tinyurl.com/a3arge You *never* saw me say that Clinton did not receive the same bribes as Bush-1, Bush-2, and all presidents back as far as Nixon. If you disagree, find where I claimed that Clinton was clean of Saudi bribes. Your rationale for the number, 82, doesn't cut it. You asked for a number. No matter what number I gave you, you would disagree with it. You know that. Good, so we're done. Here - chew on this number: 2973 By the way, if the 9/11 thugs were not working directly with any particular government, then why did GWB work so hard to create the impression that there WAS a government involved? Which government? Iraq. And do **NOT** tell me that he did not intentionally create the impression I described above. |
#144
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Completely On Topic: Sewage Crisis
"John H" wrote in message
... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:59:59 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:37:00 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message m... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:57:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message newsprsl45ee6sns59clo7t2h22p2cunlnu0i@4ax. com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:27:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:6bqsl4dt9tjergp1ihc4tabs3iee28qfhd@4a x.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:04:05 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:bvhsl4lvnjimgtem3nr58smht54h859o6u@ 4ax.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:33:41 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:iagsl49ru4iivi4odlhis7fcvf4oleltg ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:26:14 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:ckcsl4lmodfghgp7lfd3lbfm3593j0g ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:15:43 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 2, 10:10 am, John H wrote: Using your logic, should we not wreak havoc on Mexico? Yes, but in a way that's appropriate to the issue. Good, an answer. What does 'appropriate to the issue' mean in your usage? And, additionally, should we not 'punish' *any* country whose citizens or leaders expressed happiness after the 9/11 incident? Nope. That's not a good way to use our soldiers, although that doesn't matter to you. Doug, have you ever noticed that YOU, when asked a question, will ignore the question, quickly change the subject, or BEGIN WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS, rather than simply answer the question? Are you prepared to discuss the way the Saudis caused the deaths of more soldiers in Iraq than anyone other foreign power in the region? Are you now *CHANGING THE SUBJECT* again? If you are not prepared to discuss this issue, please explain why. Is there something in the article which you believe to be inaccurate? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...ghters.html?_r... From your (unbiased) source: "The data show that despite increased efforts by Saudi Arabia to clamp down on would-be terrorists since Sept. 11, 2001, when 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, some Saudi fighters are still getting through." Note also that the entire article is "...according to senior American military officials." In other words, probably bull****. You deny being a liberal but base your 'arguments' on the NY Times. 'Nuff said. John, you are in a labrynth of misquoted facts and intellecual dishonesty. You are right about Mexico though. It is a pretty well documented fact that Vicente Fox encouraged and supported the Mexican incursion into the US in his time as President of Mexico. The corruption and gangland style of government is flowing over to the US and between the border scirmishes and the gangs he has sent here we have lost more US citizens than we lost in 9/11. But either way, Joe is not interested in such facts, just winning little arguments here. One wonders why he came back.. ================= Are you saying that if we adopt a policy in a certain part of the world, we must be consistent and adopt it everywhere else too? Did he say that? Wow. I missed it. Yes, and so did you. You're trying to divert the conversation to include Mexico, which is an entirely different animal from Saudi Arabia. No, I'm pouring an analogy over your head. You just don't like it. I see Mexico's government as a hopelessly corrupt and badly orchestrated mess. Not quite the same as Saudi Arabia. Quite a few of our diplomats and intelligence officials see Saudi Arabia the same way. What's your next move? This old ploy? "Well, how come these people are all FORMER diplomats or FORMER CIA agents? What did they do wrong?" Forget it. That doesn't work. I'm glad you see Mexico's government the way you do, but it's not pertinent to the discussion. The question on the table is, " How many lives must be taken to warrant the punishment of the country. And, who must do the orchestrating?" Your answer: More than 82 lives in one carefully orchestrated attack. And who must do the orchestrating? Anyone. But, it's unlikely that you can pin individual rape or robbery incidents on the Mexican government. On the other hand, we have loads of information which proves that the Saudi royal family donates funds directly to schools which train lunatics. Why not 79 lives in two carefully orchestrated attacks? Because I told you 82 was the number. We have a school right here in Alexandria that has been accused multiple times of teaching anti-US sentiment. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but it suggests that your Bush-bashing about Saudi Arabia should be spread around. http://tinyurl.com/a3arge You *never* saw me say that Clinton did not receive the same bribes as Bush-1, Bush-2, and all presidents back as far as Nixon. If you disagree, find where I claimed that Clinton was clean of Saudi bribes. Your rationale for the number, 82, doesn't cut it. You asked for a number. No matter what number I gave you, you would disagree with it. You know that. Good, so we're done. Here - chew on this number: 2973 By the way, if the 9/11 thugs were not working directly with any particular government, then why did GWB work so hard to create the impression that there WAS a government involved? Which government? Iraq. And do **NOT** tell me that he did not intentionally create the impression I described above. OK, bye. Yeah. You said that two messages ago, but now you're back. You said "Good, so we're done". Your research project for this year: Find books which describe the relationship between Paul Wolfowitz and a thing named Manucher Ghorbanifar. You will wonder how Wolfowitz fits into this picture. You *should* wonder. Don't ask. I won't tell you. Go find your public library. |
#145
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Completely On Topic: Sewage Crisis
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:59:59 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message news On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:37:00 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:57:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:27:30 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:6bqsl4dt9tjergp1ihc4tabs3iee28qfhd@4ax .com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:04:05 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:bvhsl4lvnjimgtem3nr58smht54h859o6u@4 ax.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:33:41 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:iagsl49ru4iivi4odlhis7fcvf4oleltgi @4ax.com... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:26:14 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:ckcsl4lmodfghgp7lfd3lbfm3593j0gc ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:15:43 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 2, 10:10 am, John H wrote: Using your logic, should we not wreak havoc on Mexico? Yes, but in a way that's appropriate to the issue. Good, an answer. What does 'appropriate to the issue' mean in your usage? And, additionally, should we not 'punish' *any* country whose citizens or leaders expressed happiness after the 9/11 incident? Nope. That's not a good way to use our soldiers, although that doesn't matter to you. Doug, have you ever noticed that YOU, when asked a question, will ignore the question, quickly change the subject, or BEGIN WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS, rather than simply answer the question? Are you prepared to discuss the way the Saudis caused the deaths of more soldiers in Iraq than anyone other foreign power in the region? Are you now *CHANGING THE SUBJECT* again? If you are not prepared to discuss this issue, please explain why. Is there something in the article which you believe to be inaccurate? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...ghters.html?_r... From your (unbiased) source: "The data show that despite increased efforts by Saudi Arabia to clamp down on would-be terrorists since Sept. 11, 2001, when 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, some Saudi fighters are still getting through." Note also that the entire article is "...according to senior American military officials." In other words, probably bull****. You deny being a liberal but base your 'arguments' on the NY Times. 'Nuff said. John, you are in a labrynth of misquoted facts and intellecual dishonesty. You are right about Mexico though. It is a pretty well documented fact that Vicente Fox encouraged and supported the Mexican incursion into the US in his time as President of Mexico. The corruption and gangland style of government is flowing over to the US and between the border scirmishes and the gangs he has sent here we have lost more US citizens than we lost in 9/11. But either way, Joe is not interested in such facts, just winning little arguments here. One wonders why he came back.. ================= Are you saying that if we adopt a policy in a certain part of the world, we must be consistent and adopt it everywhere else too? Did he say that? Wow. I missed it. Yes, and so did you. You're trying to divert the conversation to include Mexico, which is an entirely different animal from Saudi Arabia. No, I'm pouring an analogy over your head. You just don't like it. I see Mexico's government as a hopelessly corrupt and badly orchestrated mess. Not quite the same as Saudi Arabia. Quite a few of our diplomats and intelligence officials see Saudi Arabia the same way. What's your next move? This old ploy? "Well, how come these people are all FORMER diplomats or FORMER CIA agents? What did they do wrong?" Forget it. That doesn't work. I'm glad you see Mexico's government the way you do, but it's not pertinent to the discussion. The question on the table is, " How many lives must be taken to warrant the punishment of the country. And, who must do the orchestrating?" Your answer: More than 82 lives in one carefully orchestrated attack. And who must do the orchestrating? Anyone. But, it's unlikely that you can pin individual rape or robbery incidents on the Mexican government. On the other hand, we have loads of information which proves that the Saudi royal family donates funds directly to schools which train lunatics. Why not 79 lives in two carefully orchestrated attacks? Because I told you 82 was the number. We have a school right here in Alexandria that has been accused multiple times of teaching anti-US sentiment. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but it suggests that your Bush-bashing about Saudi Arabia should be spread around. http://tinyurl.com/a3arge You *never* saw me say that Clinton did not receive the same bribes as Bush-1, Bush-2, and all presidents back as far as Nixon. If you disagree, find where I claimed that Clinton was clean of Saudi bribes. Your rationale for the number, 82, doesn't cut it. You asked for a number. No matter what number I gave you, you would disagree with it. You know that. Good, so we're done. Here - chew on this number: 2973 By the way, if the 9/11 thugs were not working directly with any particular government, then why did GWB work so hard to create the impression that there WAS a government involved? Which government? Iraq. And do **NOT** tell me that he did not intentionally create the impression I described above. OK, bye. |
#146
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Completely On Topic: Sewage Crisis
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"D K" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:10:03 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:49:12 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:56:26 -0500, John H penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:17:53 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:04:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 31 2008, 2:47 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. Who has made conclusions that Obama will be a bad president? Bush wasn't a miserable failure. His accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan are remarkable. If it hadn't been for the Barney Frank crowd, he would have had a great economy going for him. John H Too bad he failed to punish the country responsible for attacking us. What country would you have had him 'punish'? 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were from one country. That country, to this day, broadcasts strong anti-American sentiment on their government owned radio. That same government, having close ties to the Bush administration, walked away from the mess, entirely unchallenged by the US government for their role in the death of 3,000 Americans. Their hands are just as dirty as Afghanistan's. In addition, although this country has claimed to arrest Al Qaeda operatives within their borders, I don't think any have been charged (or accused) of having terrorist targets *outside* of that country's borders. Afghanistan makes sense, but why punish Iraq and then let this country go free..... Doubters will attempt to trash the source of this information. That will be funny to watch, as the doubters try and rain disrespect all over OUR SOLDIERS, who uncovered the information about our so-called "allies", who provided the majority of foreign fighters who came to kill our soldiers. "The data come largely from a trove of documents and computers discovered in September, when American forces raided a tent camp in the desert near Sinjar, close to the Syrian border. The raid's target was an insurgent cell believed to be responsible for smuggling the vast majority of foreign fighters into Iraq. The most significant discovery was a collection of biographical sketches that listed hometowns and other details for more than 700 fighters brought into Iraq since August 2006." I suppose, using your logic, we should wreak havoc on Mexico from whence have come a whole passel of murderers, rapists, and other assorted felons. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Based on YOUR logic, we should've attacked Peru in retaliation for Pearl Harbor. Enuff. Bye. It's fun to scare you away like this. You can't face your own "logic", if you can call it logic. Why are you always such an asshole, Doug? I asked John to name the country which attacked us on 9/11. If that's being an asshole, then I'm an asshole. Live with it. My impression at this point of the discussion is that John's refusal to name the enemy fits the constitutional term "adhering to the enemy" (see Article III section 3, definition of treason). What do you think? I think you are waaaay out there... |
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Completely On Topic: Sewage Crisis
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... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "D K" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:10:03 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:49:12 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:56:26 -0500, John H penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:17:53 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:04:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 31 2008, 2:47 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. Who has made conclusions that Obama will be a bad president? Bush wasn't a miserable failure. His accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan are remarkable. If it hadn't been for the Barney Frank crowd, he would have had a great economy going for him. John H Too bad he failed to punish the country responsible for attacking us. What country would you have had him 'punish'? 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were from one country. That country, to this day, broadcasts strong anti-American sentiment on their government owned radio. That same government, having close ties to the Bush administration, walked away from the mess, entirely unchallenged by the US government for their role in the death of 3,000 Americans. Their hands are just as dirty as Afghanistan's. In addition, although this country has claimed to arrest Al Qaeda operatives within their borders, I don't think any have been charged (or accused) of having terrorist targets *outside* of that country's borders. Afghanistan makes sense, but why punish Iraq and then let this country go free..... Doubters will attempt to trash the source of this information. That will be funny to watch, as the doubters try and rain disrespect all over OUR SOLDIERS, who uncovered the information about our so-called "allies", who provided the majority of foreign fighters who came to kill our soldiers. "The data come largely from a trove of documents and computers discovered in September, when American forces raided a tent camp in the desert near Sinjar, close to the Syrian border. The raid's target was an insurgent cell believed to be responsible for smuggling the vast majority of foreign fighters into Iraq. The most significant discovery was a collection of biographical sketches that listed hometowns and other details for more than 700 fighters brought into Iraq since August 2006." I suppose, using your logic, we should wreak havoc on Mexico from whence have come a whole passel of murderers, rapists, and other assorted felons. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Based on YOUR logic, we should've attacked Peru in retaliation for Pearl Harbor. Enuff. Bye. It's fun to scare you away like this. You can't face your own "logic", if you can call it logic. Why are you always such an asshole, Doug? I asked John to name the country which attacked us on 9/11. If that's being an asshole, then I'm an asshole. Live with it. My impression at this point of the discussion is that John's refusal to name the enemy fits the constitutional term "adhering to the enemy" (see Article III section 3, definition of treason). What do you think? I think you are waaaay out there... That's a good thing. Thank you. |
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Completely On Topic: Sewage Crisis
"Jim" wrote in message ... D K wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:10:03 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:49:12 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:56:26 -0500, John H penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:17:53 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:04:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 31 2008, 2:47 pm, John H wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:34 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: (considering what hasn't changed here in this NG) http://www.slate.com/id/2202423/pagenum/all/ Even though it was Bush's fault, Obama will have that fixed in no time. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Here's what I find odd. Seems that those who have already concluded that Obama is a bad president, even though he hasn't been in office yet, are the very same ones that didn't see that Bush would be a miserable failure, and STILL don't see it. Who has made conclusions that Obama will be a bad president? Bush wasn't a miserable failure. His accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan are remarkable. If it hadn't been for the Barney Frank crowd, he would have had a great economy going for him. John H Too bad he failed to punish the country responsible for attacking us. What country would you have had him 'punish'? 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were from one country. That country, to this day, broadcasts strong anti-American sentiment on their government owned radio. That same government, having close ties to the Bush administration, walked away from the mess, entirely unchallenged by the US government for their role in the death of 3,000 Americans. Their hands are just as dirty as Afghanistan's. In addition, although this country has claimed to arrest Al Qaeda operatives within their borders, I don't think any have been charged (or accused) of having terrorist targets *outside* of that country's borders. Afghanistan makes sense, but why punish Iraq and then let this country go free..... Doubters will attempt to trash the source of this information. That will be funny to watch, as the doubters try and rain disrespect all over OUR SOLDIERS, who uncovered the information about our so-called "allies", who provided the majority of foreign fighters who came to kill our soldiers. "The data come largely from a trove of documents and computers discovered in September, when American forces raided a tent camp in the desert near Sinjar, close to the Syrian border. The raid's target was an insurgent cell believed to be responsible for smuggling the vast majority of foreign fighters into Iraq. The most significant discovery was a collection of biographical sketches that listed hometowns and other details for more than 700 fighters brought into Iraq since August 2006." I suppose, using your logic, we should wreak havoc on Mexico from whence have come a whole passel of murderers, rapists, and other assorted felons. -- ** Good Day! ** John H Based on YOUR logic, we should've attacked Peru in retaliation for Pearl Harbor. Enuff. Bye. It's fun to scare you away like this. You can't face your own "logic", if you can call it logic. Why are you always such an asshole, Doug? You should know better. Makes Boater look like a gentleman |
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