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Eisboch[_4_] December 30th 08 09:29 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking router
(installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help line. The
result was losing all Internet access on all the computers until about an
hour ago.

New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. I actually like
Vista.

The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical helpline via
telephone.

Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of knowledgable
people showed up and got everything up and running better than ever.

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the business.
Macs will be no longer.

Eisboch


Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 09:34 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Eisboch wrote:
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking router
(installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help line. The
result was losing all Internet access on all the computers until about
an hour ago.

New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. I actually like
Vista.

The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical helpline
via telephone.

Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of knowledgable
people showed up and got everything up and running better than ever.

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the
business. Macs will be no longer.

Eisboch



Who did you hear that rumor from? Your guys at Comcast?

What brand router do you have? It shouldn't really require much if any
specific setup, or are you referring to the "cable modem"?


Eisboch[_4_] December 30th 08 09:59 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking router
(installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help line. The
result was losing all Internet access on all the computers until about an
hour ago.

New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. I actually like
Vista.

The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical helpline
via telephone.

Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of knowledgable
people showed up and got everything up and running better than ever.

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the business.
Macs will be no longer.

Eisboch



Who did you hear that rumor from? Your guys at Comcast?

What brand router do you have? It shouldn't really require much if any
specific setup, or are you referring to the "cable modem"?


I don't know what we had before as a router. It was setup in a strange way.
Rather than using WEP or the newer secure network system (forget what they
call it), it was "unsecured" but invisible to all but the specific
computers that were registered to log on to it. The only computers that
could connect were those that were registered through Comcast to use it.
It wasn't a problem before. When Mrs.E. bought a new computer we simply
called up Comcast and they remotely added it to the registered list.

The problems started Saturday when I tried to add this new machine. The
telephone guy initially said, "No problem, then proceeded to completely shut
down our Internet access remotely and couldn't get it back up. Then, we
went through the "next tier" of help within 48 hours, etc., (which never
happened) then a home visit this morning between 8am and 11am to "upgrade"
our equipment (which has worked perfectly for several years) ... and nobody
showed up. This is all with numerous and increasingly frustrating calls to
Comcast's help service which has been going on since Saturday.

Believe it or not, here's how it got fixed. Around 1pm this afternoon
(after waiting all morning for the Comcast no show) I happened to take a
ride to the store 2 miles from my house. In the parking lot were two
Comcast trucks parked side by side and the drivers having a smoke and
chatting. I drove up and asked them if either one had a service call
scheduled at our address. They didn't, but asked what the problem was. I
briefly explained, they told me to lead the way, came over to the house,
installed a new router, programmed it and made sure all of our computers (5)
could log on and work.

The guys (and gals) that "do" the work are great.
The telephone help people are total losers. They lie too, and I can prove
it.

Oh. The rumor. Yep, it was one of the Comcast guys who was very
knowledgable regarding Vista.
He said that Vista and a current Mac OS (forget the name) are basically
built on the same platform.
He told us that it was done for compatibility issues because Mac will be
getting out of the business.

I didn't ask him anymore because I was overjoyed to have our Internet access
back.

Eisboch


BAR[_3_] December 30th 08 10:37 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking
router (installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help
line. The result was losing all Internet access on all the computers
until about an hour ago.

New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. I actually
like Vista.

The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical helpline
via telephone.

Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of knowledgable
people showed up and got everything up and running better than ever.

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the
business. Macs will be no longer.

Eisboch



Who did you hear that rumor from? Your guys at Comcast?

What brand router do you have? It shouldn't really require much if any
specific setup, or are you referring to the "cable modem"?


You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.


Eisboch December 30th 08 10:42 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...


You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.


Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem.

Eisboch



jps December 30th 08 10:46 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:59:19 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Oh. The rumor. Yep, it was one of the Comcast guys who was very
knowledgable regarding Vista.
He said that Vista and a current Mac OS (forget the name) are basically
built on the same platform.
He told us that it was done for compatibility issues because Mac will be
getting out of the business.

I didn't ask him anymore because I was overjoyed to have our Internet access
back.

Eisboch


Good thing he knew more about modems and routers than OS and hardware
platforms.

There's no reason to believe Apple will get out of the hardware
business. It'd take away from the cultural market position they've
established and decrement the value of their brand.

jps

Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 11:13 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking
router (installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help
line. The result was losing all Internet access on all the
computers until about an hour ago.

New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. I actually
like Vista.

The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical
helpline via telephone.

Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of
knowledgable people showed up and got everything up and running
better than ever.

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the
business. Macs will be no longer.

Eisboch



Who did you hear that rumor from? Your guys at Comcast?

What brand router do you have? It shouldn't really require much if any
specific setup, or are you referring to the "cable modem"?


I don't know what we had before as a router. It was setup in a strange
way. Rather than using WEP or the newer secure network system (forget
what they call it), it was "unsecured" but invisible to all but the
specific computers that were registered to log on to it. The only
computers that could connect were those that were registered through
Comcast to use it. It wasn't a problem before. When Mrs.E. bought a new
computer we simply called up Comcast and they remotely added it to the
registered list.

The problems started Saturday when I tried to add this new machine. The
telephone guy initially said, "No problem, then proceeded to completely
shut down our Internet access remotely and couldn't get it back up.
Then, we went through the "next tier" of help within 48 hours, etc.,
(which never happened) then a home visit this morning between 8am and
11am to "upgrade" our equipment (which has worked perfectly for several
years) ... and nobody showed up. This is all with numerous and
increasingly frustrating calls to Comcast's help service which has been
going on since Saturday.

Believe it or not, here's how it got fixed. Around 1pm this afternoon
(after waiting all morning for the Comcast no show) I happened to take
a ride to the store 2 miles from my house. In the parking lot were two
Comcast trucks parked side by side and the drivers having a smoke and
chatting. I drove up and asked them if either one had a service call
scheduled at our address. They didn't, but asked what the problem
was. I briefly explained, they told me to lead the way, came over to
the house, installed a new router, programmed it and made sure all of
our computers (5) could log on and work.

The guys (and gals) that "do" the work are great.
The telephone help people are total losers. They lie too, and I can
prove it.

Oh. The rumor. Yep, it was one of the Comcast guys who was very
knowledgable regarding Vista.
He said that Vista and a current Mac OS (forget the name) are
basically built on the same platform.
He told us that it was done for compatibility issues because Mac will be
getting out of the business.

I didn't ask him anymore because I was overjoyed to have our Internet
access back.

Eisboch



The Comcast phone service for internet is pretty miserable, but I have
been pleased by the two guys in trucks who answer the service calls in
our immediate area. Your Comcast guy's Mac-PC story is going nowhere.

Eisboch[_4_] December 30th 08 11:23 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...


The Comcast phone service for internet is pretty miserable, but I have
been pleased by the two guys in trucks who answer the service calls in our
immediate area. Your Comcast guy's Mac-PC story is going nowhere.


I have no way of knowing. Like I said, it was a rumor.

Eisboch


Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 11:29 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...


The Comcast phone service for internet is pretty miserable, but I have
been pleased by the two guys in trucks who answer the service calls in
our immediate area. Your Comcast guy's Mac-PC story is going nowhere.


I have no way of knowing. Like I said, it was a rumor.

Eisboch



Wait..."Reggie" will find some bit of fluff out there on the internet
that says Apple's world is coming to an end. Y-A-W-N.

Tom Francis[_2_] December 31st 08 12:21 AM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:29:43 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the business.
Macs will be no longer.


That seems to be going around - something about VISTA and Leopard or
whatever Apple calls it are built around the same platform or using
the same operating architecture or something. They mentioned it on
CNBC last week when I was listening and I was only half paying
attention.

Also heard Apple will be introducing a iPhone Nano.

Don't know myself - doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Boater[_3_] December 31st 08 12:25 AM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:29:43 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the business.
Macs will be no longer.


That seems to be going around - something about VISTA and Leopard or
whatever Apple calls it are built around the same platform or using
the same operating architecture or something. They mentioned it on
CNBC last week when I was listening and I was only half paying
attention.

Also heard Apple will be introducing a iPhone Nano.

Don't know myself - doesn't seem to make sense to me.



These days, Apples and PCs use the same CPU's, and in fact, Apple will
soon be releasing new desktops with the latest Intel CPU's.

Keith nuttle December 31st 08 12:53 AM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking
router (installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help
line. The result was losing all Internet access on all the
computers until about an hour ago.

New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. I actually
like Vista.

The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical
helpline via telephone.

Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of
knowledgable people showed up and got everything up and running
better than ever.

BTW .... I heard a rumor that Apple is going to get out of the
business. Macs will be no longer.

Eisboch


Who did you hear that rumor from? Your guys at Comcast?

What brand router do you have? It shouldn't really require much if
any specific setup, or are you referring to the "cable modem"?


I don't know what we had before as a router. It was setup in a
strange way. Rather than using WEP or the newer secure network system
(forget what they call it), it was "unsecured" but invisible to all
but the specific computers that were registered to log on to it. The
only computers that could connect were those that were registered
through Comcast to use it. It wasn't a problem before. When Mrs.E.
bought a new computer we simply called up Comcast and they remotely
added it to the registered list.

The problems started Saturday when I tried to add this new machine.
The telephone guy initially said, "No problem, then proceeded to
completely shut down our Internet access remotely and couldn't get it
back up. Then, we went through the "next tier" of help within 48
hours, etc., (which never happened) then a home visit this morning
between 8am and 11am to "upgrade" our equipment (which has worked
perfectly for several years) ... and nobody showed up. This is all
with numerous and increasingly frustrating calls to Comcast's help
service which has been going on since Saturday.

Believe it or not, here's how it got fixed. Around 1pm this
afternoon (after waiting all morning for the Comcast no show) I
happened to take a ride to the store 2 miles from my house. In the
parking lot were two Comcast trucks parked side by side and the
drivers having a smoke and chatting. I drove up and asked them if
either one had a service call scheduled at our address. They didn't,
but asked what the problem was. I briefly explained, they told me
to lead the way, came over to the house, installed a new router,
programmed it and made sure all of our computers (5) could log on and
work.

The guys (and gals) that "do" the work are great.
The telephone help people are total losers. They lie too, and I can
prove it.

Oh. The rumor. Yep, it was one of the Comcast guys who was very
knowledgable regarding Vista.
He said that Vista and a current Mac OS (forget the name) are
basically built on the same platform.
He told us that it was done for compatibility issues because Mac will
be getting out of the business.

I didn't ask him anymore because I was overjoyed to have our Internet
access back.

Eisboch



The Comcast phone service for internet is pretty miserable, but I have
been pleased by the two guys in trucks who answer the service calls in
our immediate area. Your Comcast guy's Mac-PC story is going nowhere.

My Belkin router can be set up to only see and acknowledge the computers
entered into the router by the person with administrator privileges to
the router.

After hearing your story I glad I did not go that way to set up the router .

Tim December 31st 08 01:42 AM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Dec 30, 4:37*pm, BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking
router (installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help
line. * The result was losing all Internet access on all the computers
until about an hour ago.


New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. *I actually
like Vista.


The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical helpline
via telephone.


Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of knowledgable
people showed up and got everything up and running better than ever.


BTW .... I heard a *rumor that Apple is going to get out of the
business. Macs will be no longer.


Eisboch


Who did you hear that rumor from? Your guys at Comcast?


What brand router do you have? It shouldn't really require much if any
specific setup, or are you referring to the "cable modem"?


You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.


A lot of people think that Barak is going to do all the fixing.

Eisboch[_4_] December 31st 08 08:06 AM

Comcast Meltdown
 

"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking
router (installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help
line. The result was losing all Internet access on all the computers
until about an hour ago.




After hearing your story I glad I did not go that way to set up the router
.


I wouldn't again either after finding out how simple it is to do it
yourself.
The only reason I called Comcast is because it was a system installed by
them (actually Adelphia) several years ago. Until Saturday we never had a
problem or issue with it.

Eisboch


[email protected] December 31st 08 11:45 AM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:21:59 +0000, Tom Francis wrote:

That seems to be going around - something about VISTA and Leopard or
whatever Apple calls it are built around the same platform or using the
same operating architecture or something. They mentioned it on CNBC
last week when I was listening and I was only half paying attention.


OS X is an overlay on Darwin, which is a Unix type OS. While rumors have
it that there is some Unix code in Windows, it is definitely not Unix
based.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

Rumors also have it that the next Windows will be truly different, at
least for Windows. Reportedly, it will use a hypervisor for backward
compatibility. By the way, hypervisors are not new. When I absolutely
have to use that buggy, insecure, POS, operating system called
Windows ;-), I run it on Linux using VirtualBox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor

Boater[_3_] December 31st 08 11:54 AM

Comcast Meltdown
 
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:21:59 +0000, Tom Francis wrote:

That seems to be going around - something about VISTA and Leopard or
whatever Apple calls it are built around the same platform or using the
same operating architecture or something. They mentioned it on CNBC
last week when I was listening and I was only half paying attention.


OS X is an overlay on Darwin, which is a Unix type OS. While rumors have
it that there is some Unix code in Windows, it is definitely not Unix
based.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

Rumors also have it that the next Windows will be truly different, at
least for Windows. Reportedly, it will use a hypervisor for backward
compatibility. By the way, hypervisors are not new. When I absolutely
have to use that buggy, insecure, POS, operating system called
Windows ;-), I run it on Linux using VirtualBox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor



If by "next Windows," you mean Windows 7, it won't be "truly different"
from VISTA, or a new OS built from scratch, but will be evolutionary.

Here's a semi-official blog that keeps track of it without being too
technical:

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/default.aspx

[email protected] December 31st 08 12:20 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:54:42 -0500, Boater wrote:


If by "next Windows," you mean Windows 7, it won't be "truly different"
from VISTA, or a new OS built from scratch, but will be evolutionary.

Here's a semi-official blog that keeps track of it without being too
technical:

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/default.aspx



I don't follow Windows development, but I do remember there being
speculation that a hypervisor would be included. Apparently, the beta is
out now.

Boater[_3_] December 31st 08 12:28 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:54:42 -0500, Boater wrote:


If by "next Windows," you mean Windows 7, it won't be "truly different"
from VISTA, or a new OS built from scratch, but will be evolutionary.

Here's a semi-official blog that keeps track of it without being too
technical:

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/default.aspx


I don't follow Windows development, but I do remember there being
speculation that a hypervisor would be included. Apparently, the beta is
out now.



That's the rumor! :)



[email protected] December 31st 08 02:19 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Dec 30, 6:13*pm, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Bought a new laptop Saturday and tried to get our home networking
router (installed by Comcast) to recognize it by calling tech help
line. * The result was losing all Internet access on all the
computers until about an hour ago.


New laptop runs on Vista, but that wasn't the problem. *I actually
like Vista.


The problem was the total incompetence of Comcast's technical
helpline via telephone.


Long story which I won't go into, but finally a couple of
knowledgable people showed up and got everything up and running
better than ever.


BTW .... I heard a *rumor that Apple is going to get out of the
business. Macs will be no longer.


Eisboch


Who did you hear that rumor from? Your guys at Comcast?


What brand router do you have? It shouldn't really require much if any
specific setup, or are you referring to the "cable modem"?


I don't know what we had before as a router. *It was setup in a strange
way. Rather than using WEP or the newer secure network system (forget
what they call it), it was "unsecured" *but invisible to all but the
specific computers that were registered to log on to it. *The only
computers that could connect were those that were registered through
Comcast to use it. It wasn't a problem before. *When Mrs.E. bought a new
computer we simply called up Comcast and they remotely added it to the
registered list.


The problems started Saturday when I tried to add this new machine. *The
telephone guy initially said, "No problem, then proceeded to completely
shut down our Internet access remotely and couldn't get it back up. *
Then, we went through the "next tier" of help within 48 hours, etc.,
(which never happened) then a home visit this morning between 8am and
11am to "upgrade" our equipment *(which has worked perfectly for several
years) ... and nobody showed up. * This is all with numerous and
increasingly frustrating calls to Comcast's help service which has been
going on since Saturday.


Believe it or not, here's how it got fixed. * Around 1pm this afternoon
(after waiting all morning for the Comcast no show) *I happened to take
a ride to the store 2 miles from my house. *In the parking lot were two
Comcast trucks parked side by side and the drivers having a smoke and
chatting. *I drove up and asked them if either one had a service call
scheduled at our address. *They didn't, but asked what the problem
was. * I briefly explained, *they told me to lead the way, came over to
the house, installed a new router, programmed it and made sure all of
our computers (5) could log on and work.


The guys (and gals) that "do" the work are great.
The telephone help people are total losers. *They lie too, and I can
prove it.


Oh. * The rumor. * Yep, it was one of the Comcast guys who was very
knowledgable regarding Vista.
He said that Vista and a current Mac OS *(forget the name) *are
basically built on the same platform.
He told us that it was done for compatibility issues because Mac will be
getting out of the business.


I didn't ask him anymore because I was overjoyed to have our Internet
access back.


Eisboch


The Comcast phone service for internet is pretty miserable, but I have
been pleased by the two guys in trucks who answer the service calls in
our immediate area. Your Comcast guy's Mac-PC story is going nowhere.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.

[email protected] December 31st 08 02:20 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Dec 30, 5:42*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.


Anybody should. *Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. *All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. * *That* was the problem.

Eisboch


I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Vic Smith December 31st 08 03:40 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:



That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic

[email protected] December 31st 08 03:58 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Dec 31, 10:40*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:

That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. *Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic


I know of five people who have it in my area, and none have had any
problems. I rarely lose my connection, I have net and TV. I can't even
remember the last time that happened.
The people with phone really like it, it's got a lot of cool and
useful features.

[email protected] December 31st 08 04:03 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Dec 30, 5:42*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.


Anybody should. *Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. *All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. * *That* was the problem.

Eisboch


Hey, now you are as much of an expert as Harry;)

[email protected] December 31st 08 04:12 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Dec 31, 10:58*am, wrote:
On Dec 31, 10:40*am, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. *Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.


--Vic


I know of five people who have it in my area, and none have had any
problems. I rarely lose my connection, I have net and TV. I can't even
remember the last time that happened.
The people with phone really like it, it's got a lot of cool and
useful features.


About 6 months ago our cable system (Cox) introduced a new sales pitch
called "power boost" which immediatly caused us intermittent down time
which we had never had in 4 previous years, and slowed my download
times by half. I can't even watch most youtube vids now without breaks
and catch up time. What a joke...

Now that the cable companies have everyone going digital in Feb, and
there will really be no options for many to use sattelite (simple line
of sight issues in many cases), they will be heading for network
neutrality and cutting services. I saw an alert on "Spike TV" last
night to Time warner customers that 10 channels including Spike, MTV,
The commedy Channel, TV land, and many others that seem pretty main
stream would be cut as of last night.. This is only the beginning.
Cable is not happy with 100-150 dollars a month, they will certainly
bring these "standard package" channels back a pay channels. I am sure
they would like to cut their "basic" packages down to a half dozen
channels or so if they can...

Vic Smith December 31st 08 04:28 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:58:56 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 31, 10:40Â*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:

That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. Â*Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic


I know of five people who have it in my area, and none have had any
problems. I rarely lose my connection, I have net and TV. I can't even
remember the last time that happened.
The people with phone really like it, it's got a lot of cool and
useful features.


Probably a local thing. But it doesn't matter. All I care about with
a phone is getting a dial tone and voice mail.
All the time. I had one couple hour outage with Ma Bell copper in 40
years when a squirrel chewed through a wire's insulation.
With a few years of Comcast it's already added up to DAYS.
And not because of storms. Incompetence with their software.
Besides, they cost too much. They're paying turtles to go
skateboarding with human chicks with my money. It's a sick outfit.

--Vic




Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 31st 08 04:30 PM

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Vic Smith wrote:
They're paying turtles to go
skateboarding with human chicks with my money. It's a sick outfit.

--Vic


I have to ask what this means?


Vic Smith December 31st 08 04:45 PM

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:12:06 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 31, 10:58Â*am, wrote:
On Dec 31, 10:40Â*am, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. Â*Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.


--Vic


I know of five people who have it in my area, and none have had any
problems. I rarely lose my connection, I have net and TV. I can't even
remember the last time that happened.
The people with phone really like it, it's got a lot of cool and
useful features.


About 6 months ago our cable system (Cox) introduced a new sales pitch
called "power boost" which immediatly caused us intermittent down time
which we had never had in 4 previous years, and slowed my download
times by half. I can't even watch most youtube vids now without breaks
and catch up time. What a joke...

Now that the cable companies have everyone going digital in Feb, and
there will really be no options for many to use sattelite (simple line
of sight issues in many cases), they will be heading for network
neutrality and cutting services. I saw an alert on "Spike TV" last
night to Time warner customers that 10 channels including Spike, MTV,
The commedy Channel, TV land, and many others that seem pretty main
stream would be cut as of last night.. This is only the beginning.
Cable is not happy with 100-150 dollars a month, they will certainly
bring these "standard package" channels back a pay channels. I am sure
they would like to cut their "basic" packages down to a half dozen
channels or so if they can...


Comcast has already moved about 5 channels we watched from our
"standard" package. They want another 15 bucks a month for the next
step up to for us to get them back.
Plus they dropped the giganews usenet feed from their internet
service, which cost $8 month to replace.
Only reason I don't go to satellite is we watch 4 different TV's in
the house and with the sat box charges we would end up paying even
more.
A big piece of what we're paying is going to salaries for
multi-millionaire ball players, some who torture dogs.
We don't even watch sports.
I could do without most of the TV, but my wife would raise hell.
Oh well.

--Vic

Vic Smith December 31st 08 04:53 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:30:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
They're paying turtles to go
skateboarding with human chicks with my money. It's a sick outfit.

--Vic


I have to ask what this means?


It's a Comcast TV commercial. I don't know about where you're at, but
every other commercial here seems to be a Comcast commercial.
I swear there's one on now as I write.

--Vic

BAR[_3_] December 31st 08 05:11 PM

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Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:54:42 -0500, Boater wrote:


If by "next Windows," you mean Windows 7, it won't be "truly different"
from VISTA, or a new OS built from scratch, but will be evolutionary.

Here's a semi-official blog that keeps track of it without being too
technical:

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/default.aspx


I don't follow Windows development, but I do remember there being
speculation that a hypervisor would be included. Apparently, the beta
is out now.



That's the rumor! :)


It will be a support nightmare.

John H[_8_] December 31st 08 05:59 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:45:38 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:12:06 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 31, 10:58*am, wrote:
On Dec 31, 10:40*am, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:

That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.

I don't like it. *Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic

I know of five people who have it in my area, and none have had any
problems. I rarely lose my connection, I have net and TV. I can't even
remember the last time that happened.
The people with phone really like it, it's got a lot of cool and
useful features.


About 6 months ago our cable system (Cox) introduced a new sales pitch
called "power boost" which immediatly caused us intermittent down time
which we had never had in 4 previous years, and slowed my download
times by half. I can't even watch most youtube vids now without breaks
and catch up time. What a joke...

Now that the cable companies have everyone going digital in Feb, and
there will really be no options for many to use sattelite (simple line
of sight issues in many cases), they will be heading for network
neutrality and cutting services. I saw an alert on "Spike TV" last
night to Time warner customers that 10 channels including Spike, MTV,
The commedy Channel, TV land, and many others that seem pretty main
stream would be cut as of last night.. This is only the beginning.
Cable is not happy with 100-150 dollars a month, they will certainly
bring these "standard package" channels back a pay channels. I am sure
they would like to cut their "basic" packages down to a half dozen
channels or so if they can...


Comcast has already moved about 5 channels we watched from our
"standard" package. They want another 15 bucks a month for the next
step up to for us to get them back.
Plus they dropped the giganews usenet feed from their internet
service, which cost $8 month to replace.
Only reason I don't go to satellite is we watch 4 different TV's in
the house and with the sat box charges we would end up paying even
more.
A big piece of what we're paying is going to salaries for
multi-millionaire ball players, some who torture dogs.
We don't even watch sports.
I could do without most of the TV, but my wife would raise hell.
Oh well.

--Vic


Ditto on the wives bit!
--
** Good Day! **

John H

Vic Smith December 31st 08 06:34 PM

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:59:04 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:45:38 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


I could do without most of the TV, but my wife would raise hell.
Oh well.

--Vic


Ditto on the wives bit!


One thing I learned pretty fast about marriage is when to hold and
when to fold. Gotta say there's a lot of folding going on.
This reminds me. I was talking to her just yesterday while looking at
the Comcast packages on the net. Among the stuff she lost was
"Lifetime" and some other "chick" channel. I lost C-span 2 and
Nat Geo. The next step up adds those back and quite a few more,
including the military channel. Can't remember them all.
I said, "It'll cost about 15 a month more for that package.
Should we get it?"
She just looked at me, but never answered. She ALWAYS has
an answer, even if it's "You decide."
So it looks like I found another way she has to say "Yes."
I left it at that, as the phone rang. But I'm going to go up a
package. I'm only living once, and she's got the same deal.

--Vic

Boater[_3_] December 31st 08 06:44 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic



Phone over internet is not reliable.

John H[_8_] December 31st 08 07:39 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:34:20 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:59:04 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:45:38 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


I could do without most of the TV, but my wife would raise hell.
Oh well.

--Vic


Ditto on the wives bit!


One thing I learned pretty fast about marriage is when to hold and
when to fold. Gotta say there's a lot of folding going on.
This reminds me. I was talking to her just yesterday while looking at
the Comcast packages on the net. Among the stuff she lost was
"Lifetime" and some other "chick" channel. I lost C-span 2 and
Nat Geo. The next step up adds those back and quite a few more,
including the military channel. Can't remember them all.
I said, "It'll cost about 15 a month more for that package.
Should we get it?"
She just looked at me, but never answered. She ALWAYS has
an answer, even if it's "You decide."
So it looks like I found another way she has to say "Yes."
I left it at that, as the phone rang. But I'm going to go up a
package. I'm only living once, and she's got the same deal.

--Vic


I'm paying about $185 for all the stuff from Cox. That includes telephone,
internet and TV. Every so often I'll call up and tell them I'm going to
cancel and go with Verizon. Time before last, they gave me a six months
deal, reducing my bill by about $35/mo. Then my bill jumped back up. I left
it there for a couple months, and then called and whined again. This time
they took $7.95 off for one year, but I have to stay with them for the year
(which I'd have done anyway).

So, you might try calling and whining. Maybe they'll give you the new
service free for six months. Hell, it's worth a try! Maybe you won't save
enough to buy a dinner at Mickey D's,. but you'll feel better.
--
** Good Day! **

John H

Eisboch[_4_] December 31st 08 07:50 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic



Phone over internet is not reliable.


I just finished responding to a Comcast Survey request regarding our recent
problems.
In the "scoring" section I gave mostly very low grades, mainly to catch
someone's attention.
It did. The scores prompted an additional survey page and a request for
comments because of the low scores.

I took my time and carefully crafted a polite but accurate account of the
whole fiasco, starting last Saturday, the promises made and defaulted on,
the frustration of having to go through the whole process, describing the
problem, etc. even though "Reference" numbers had given to me for future
calls if required. I explained how the home service never showed and how I
finally found a couple on lunch break in a local parking lot.

I gave those guy kudos for being responsive, knowledgeable and understanding
of our frustration.
I suggested that Comcast should consider a major overhaul of their telephone
technical assistance.

At the end of the survey, they still wanted me to sign up for internet
telephone.

Eisboch


BAR[_3_] December 31st 08 07:51 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Boater wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.


I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic



Phone over internet is not reliable.


Don't stop there give us a dissertation on the evils of VoIP and why it
isn't reliable.

Vic Smith December 31st 08 07:53 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:39:12 -0500, John H
wrote:



I'm paying about $185 for all the stuff from Cox. That includes telephone,
internet and TV. Every so often I'll call up and tell them I'm going to
cancel and go with Verizon. Time before last, they gave me a six months
deal, reducing my bill by about $35/mo. Then my bill jumped back up. I left
it there for a couple months, and then called and whined again. This time
they took $7.95 off for one year, but I have to stay with them for the year
(which I'd have done anyway).

So, you might try calling and whining. Maybe they'll give you the new
service free for six months. Hell, it's worth a try! Maybe you won't save
enough to buy a dinner at Mickey D's,. but you'll feel better.


They're getting me for about $155 here, but I probably don't get the
same stuff you have. Anyway I called about the step-up, which is
called "Digital Classic" but I would need a box on each TV, since mine
aren't digital. Not cost effective.
I never bluff, so the threats won't work since I've got nowhere else
to go except satellite, which I don't want - yet.
So I'll just live with what I have for now.

--Vic

Boater[_3_] December 31st 08 08:03 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.

I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic



Phone over internet is not reliable.


I just finished responding to a Comcast Survey request regarding our
recent problems.
In the "scoring" section I gave mostly very low grades, mainly to catch
someone's attention.
It did. The scores prompted an additional survey page and a request for
comments because of the low scores.

I took my time and carefully crafted a polite but accurate account of
the whole fiasco, starting last Saturday, the promises made and
defaulted on, the frustration of having to go through the whole process,
describing the problem, etc. even though "Reference" numbers had given
to me for future calls if required. I explained how the home service
never showed and how I finally found a couple on lunch break in a local
parking lot.

I gave those guy kudos for being responsive, knowledgeable and
understanding of our frustration.
I suggested that Comcast should consider a major overhaul of their
telephone technical assistance.

At the end of the survey, they still wanted me to sign up for internet
telephone.

Eisboch



They'll never give up.

About five miles from here, the power company feeder line was hit by a
falling tree this morning (windstorm). Big enough fire for three engines
to show up, and apparently someone was injured because I saw an
ambulance leaving the scene in a hurry. Power out for a few hours,
including, of course, cable and anyone's phone that depends on cable.

Landline phone...just fine.


Vic Smith December 31st 08 08:10 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:51:04 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.

I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic



Phone over internet is not reliable.


Don't stop there give us a dissertation on the evils of VoIP and why it
isn't reliable.


My problem is the Comcast internet here isn't reliable. I might get
the Skype service where you keep your phone number and you can
hook a Skype phone to the modem - don't have to have a computer turned
on. Unfortunately the phone looked pretty expensive when I last
checked.
But I would want an AT&T DSL line instead of Comcast, hoping it would
be more reliable. Don't know.
It would be a lot cheaper. Going to DSL and Skype would eliminate my
Comcast digital phone and internet which total about $100 a month.
The new cost for Phone/DSL would be about $20 a month.
Not sure how well Skype would work with DSL, or how much my daughter
would bitch about DSL instead of broadband when doing her schoolwork.
So I probably won't do a damn thing.
But hey, I did give it some thought.

--Vic

Boater[_3_] December 31st 08 08:18 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:51:04 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:


That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone.
I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much.
Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far
too often, I also lose the net and TV.
I'm looking at alternatives.

--Vic

Phone over internet is not reliable.

Don't stop there give us a dissertation on the evils of VoIP and why it
isn't reliable.


My problem is the Comcast internet here isn't reliable. I might get
the Skype service where you keep your phone number and you can
hook a Skype phone to the modem - don't have to have a computer turned
on. Unfortunately the phone looked pretty expensive when I last
checked.
But I would want an AT&T DSL line instead of Comcast, hoping it would
be more reliable. Don't know.
It would be a lot cheaper. Going to DSL and Skype would eliminate my
Comcast digital phone and internet which total about $100 a month.
The new cost for Phone/DSL would be about $20 a month.
Not sure how well Skype would work with DSL, or how much my daughter
would bitch about DSL instead of broadband when doing her schoolwork.
So I probably won't do a damn thing.
But hey, I did give it some thought.

--Vic



I had telco DSL service some years ago. It was fairly reliable, but when
it went down, it went down for long periods of time.

Boater[_3_] December 31st 08 09:13 PM

Comcast Meltdown
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem.

Eisboch

I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.


Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......



I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the
router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to
setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices
on your home network.


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