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"Boater" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... You should've just called Harry he can fix anything. Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions. Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem. Eisboch I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a glitch. Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion...... I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices on your home network. I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package. The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate unit from the modem. I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup. Set up a secure network and all works fine. Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh? The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like me would never know you could do. Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few updates that had to be downloaded and installed. Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I refuse every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... You should've just called Harry he can fix anything. Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions. Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem. Eisboch I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a glitch. Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion...... I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices on your home network. I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package. The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate unit from the modem. I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup. Set up a secure network and all works fine. Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh? The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like me would never know you could do. Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few updates that had to be downloaded and installed. Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I refuse every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on. Eisboch Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not. I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech support" guys in Bombay. Good luck! |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Boater" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... You should've just called Harry he can fix anything. Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions. Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem. Eisboch I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a glitch. Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion...... I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices on your home network. I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package. The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate unit from the modem. I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup. Set up a secure network and all works fine. Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh? The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like me would never know you could do. Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few updates that had to be downloaded and installed. Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I refuse every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on. Eisboch You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. |
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wrote in message ... Norton has been a dog for a decade and it does not want to be taken out as you have seen. McAffe is another dog that will slow your system by at least 20%.. Everyone has a favorite but we at IDesigns and at home have been using Zone Alarm interntet protection suite for over a decade... When kept up it does a great job without taking over your whole system, easy interface, very user friendly especially if you start in "learn" mode which helps you get it up and running based on your use... Just my opinion, it's well worth the money. I think a 4 licence pack costs us about 70 bucks a year... =============================== I used to have Zone Alarm in one of the computers I had several years ago. At first it seemed to work fine but over time I started having problems with the computer bogging down and not allowing certain events to happen even though I "permitted" them or simply taking forever for them to happen. In my attempts to fix the problem, I disabled Zone Alarm and the computer went back to normal. That was years ago and maybe it was an early version or the problem was unique to that particular computer. But, you know, Norton has sort of the same history. I remember having it on some early computers and it was fine. Didn't seem to bother or affect the computer's operations or speed. But, over the years I've noticed that Norton seems to have grown to the point where it seems to cause more problems than it prevents. I recall a computer Mrs.E. had a few years ago. It was slowly bogging down to the point where it would barely run. I am no computer guru, but she asked me to look at it and I tried all the very basic maintenance things like defrag and disk clean up. Nothing helped. Then I noticed that Norton was there doing all kinds of stuff, so I disabled it and rebooted the computer leaving Norton disabled. The computer ran fine again. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a Windows "Remove Program". I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I am up all night trying to fix it. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a Windows "Remove Program". I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I am up all night trying to fix it. Eisboch Where's your engineer's curiosity? For anybody that tries water skiing after so many years this is a piece of cake. You probably wouldn't even break a leg either. 8) |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... Where's your engineer's curiosity? My engineer's curiosity over the years led to a simple rule. "Leave well enough alone". Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not. I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech support" guys in Bombay. Good luck! Yup. That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it completely. I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install it every time it boots. I was told by someone with more computer smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about 4 years now. I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with this new Vista machine. Eisboch Try this: Open the "Run" command. Type "prefetch". It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really). At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the problem. |
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"D K" wrote in message ... Try this: Open the "Run" command. Type "prefetch". It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really). At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the problem. I can't find a "Run" command in Vista. Eisboch |
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D K wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not. I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech support" guys in Bombay. Good luck! Yup. That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it completely. I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install it every time it boots. I was told by someone with more computer smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about 4 years now. I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with this new Vista machine. Eisboch Try this: Open the "Run" command. Type "prefetch". It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really). At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the problem. http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across says not to delete it. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Boater wrote:
D K wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not. I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech support" guys in Bombay. Good luck! Yup. That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it completely. I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install it every time it boots. I was told by someone with more computer smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about 4 years now. I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with this new Vista machine. Eisboch Try this: Open the "Run" command. Type "prefetch". It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really). At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the problem. http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across says not to delete it. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id here. Schittheads-uber-alles. |
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On Dec 31, 11:19*pm, Boater wrote:
Boater wrote: D K wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not. I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech support" guys in Bombay. Good luck! Yup. *That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it completely. *I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install it every time it boots. *I was told by someone with more computer smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about 4 years now. I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with this new Vista machine. Eisboch Try this: Open the "Run" command. Type "prefetch". It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really). At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the problem. http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across says not to delete it. ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id here. Schittheads-uber-alles.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - awwwww, poor Haweey |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... Where's your engineer's curiosity? My engineer's curiosity over the years led to a simple rule. "Leave well enough alone". Eisboch Turn in your Union card. 8) |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:45:05 -0800 (PST), wrote: I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id here. Schittheads-uber-alles.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - awwwww, poor Haweey He could always change IDs to "Bloater". WAFA W'hine! Now there's an idea for a handle... W'hine B. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:49:32 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message m... Where's your engineer's curiosity? My engineer's curiosity over the years led to a simple rule. "Leave well enough alone". Or the other maxim - "If it ain't broke, fix it". |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:49:13 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message m... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a Windows "Remove Program". I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I am up all night trying to fix it. You need to use a more mystical approach - be one with the program and one with the computer. OOOOMMMMMMMM....... Oh - I forgot to define mystical approach. Take it to your local geek store and have them do it for you which is what I did with the last new computer I bought - took it to the local nerd shop, said remove the bloatware - two hours and $50 later, presto - gone. OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM...... |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:41:28 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
Where's your engineer's curiosity? Funny thing - somebody asked me that the other day. I won't tell you what I replied - this is a family group. :) |
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Tom Francis wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:49:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a Windows "Remove Program". I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I am up all night trying to fix it. You need to use a more mystical approach - be one with the program and one with the computer. OOOOMMMMMMMM....... Oh - I forgot to define mystical approach. Take it to your local geek store and have them do it for you which is what I did with the last new computer I bought - took it to the local nerd shop, said remove the bloatware - two hours and $50 later, presto - gone. OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM...... Another pain in the ass security suite is McAfee's. I don't use it, but it now comes as a "free trial" download for HP Windoze Home Servers. Some users have had a lot of trouble with it, so I didn't install the freebie. I use something else on my server. |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:10:54 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:49:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message om... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a Windows "Remove Program". I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I am up all night trying to fix it. You need to use a more mystical approach - be one with the program and one with the computer. OOOOMMMMMMMM....... Oh - I forgot to define mystical approach. Take it to your local geek store and have them do it for you which is what I did with the last new computer I bought - took it to the local nerd shop, said remove the bloatware - two hours and $50 later, presto - gone. OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM...... When we bought the Sony laptop for my wife, the Geek Squad in Best Buy removed all the loaded on crap for $29, but we had to leave the computer overnight. They did a right good job as far as I can tell. -- ** Good Day! ** John H |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:37 -0800 (PST), wrote: That's odd, I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Comcast phone. I don't like it. Mine drops the connection too much. Besides that, when I lose service to the phone, which has happened far too often, I also lose the net and TV. I'm looking at alternatives. --Vic Phone over internet is not reliable. I just finished responding to a Comcast Survey request regarding our recent problems. In the "scoring" section I gave mostly very low grades, mainly to catch someone's attention. It did. The scores prompted an additional survey page and a request for comments because of the low scores. I took my time and carefully crafted a polite but accurate account of the whole fiasco, starting last Saturday, the promises made and defaulted on, the frustration of having to go through the whole process, describing the problem, etc. even though "Reference" numbers had given to me for future calls if required. I explained how the home service never showed and how I finally found a couple on lunch break in a local parking lot. I gave those guy kudos for being responsive, knowledgeable and understanding of our frustration. I suggested that Comcast should consider a major overhaul of their telephone technical assistance. At the end of the survey, they still wanted me to sign up for internet telephone. Eisboch I have used Vonage for about 3 years and have had NO significant problems since it was installed. When I first had it installed I used to have to reboot the telephone modem about once a month, but that was nothing more than turning it on and off. I used to have the same problem with my cable modem. For some reason, I no longer have that problem with my cable or telephone modem. I understand if he have a real problems their customer "no service" can really suck. If Vonage goes belly up, I will try out T-Mobile's VOIP at $10 a month. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... You should've just called Harry he can fix anything. Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions. Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem. Eisboch I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a glitch. Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion...... I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices on your home network. I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package. The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate unit from the modem. I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup. Set up a secure network and all works fine. Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh? The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like me would never know you could do. Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few updates that had to be downloaded and installed. Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I refuse every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on. Eisboch Eisboch, There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) so you will provide them with your credit card info. I had a neighbor who picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. You had to delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it. You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like you have picked up a Trojan. |
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On Jan 1, 10:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:37udnXRVFdcOP8fUnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@giganew s.com... You should've just called Harry he can fix anything. Anybody should. *Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his Beachouse. *All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions. Our system was dependent on Comcast. * *That* was the problem. Eisboch I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a glitch. Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion...... I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices on your home network. I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was one unit. *It was a modem/wireless router in one package. The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate unit from the modem. I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the directions on the disk that came with the router. *It was duck soup. * Set up a secure network and all works fine. Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh? The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. * They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like me would never know you could do. Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. *I read up on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. *There were quite a few updates that had to be downloaded and installed. Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. * Whenever I boot up the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I refuse every time. * I want to figure out how to get rid of that before installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on. Eisboch Eisboch, There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) *so you will provide them with your credit card info. *I had a neighbor who picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. *You had to delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it. You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like you have picked up a Trojan.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting theory, but Norton is a sleazy op that does everything it can to keep from being removed.. McAffe btw as I noted before is a dog of a system that drains your resources nearly as much as AOL... Dick, try Zone Alarm like I said before... |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... I have used Vonage for about 3 years and have had NO significant problems since it was installed. When I first had it installed I used to have to reboot the telephone modem about once a month, but that was nothing more than turning it on and off. I used to have the same problem with my cable modem. For some reason, I no longer have that problem with my cable or telephone modem. I understand if he have a real problems their customer "no service" can really suck. If Vonage goes belly up, I will try out T-Mobile's VOIP at $10 a month. Our old fashioned land lines rarely get used. Once in a while we the fax line, but even that has become very infrequent due to e-mail. For telephone service, we both use cell phones. I see no reason whatsoever to sign up for Comcast Internet telephone service. Eisboch |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Eisboch, There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) so you will provide them with your credit card info. I had a neighbor who picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. You had to delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it. You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like you have picked up a Trojan. Anything is possible, but I doubt it. It's a brand new computer and the Norton screen came up during the initial start up and program loading of the computer. This was 4 days before it was ever connected to the Internet. It first came up with the initial start up after loading Windows, etc. (as it should). I clicked on the "close without installing" because I didn't want to install Norton. It still pops up whenever I do a cold reboot, and I continue to click "close without installing". This morning I tried to install the free AVG program. Windows on the new computer was unable to install it because it doesn't recognize ".php" files. I suppose I can find the software to do it, but I think I'll just buy the "Pro" version and be done with it. Eisboch |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:12:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote:
This morning I tried to install the free AVG program. Windows on the new computer was unable to install it because it doesn't recognize ".php" files. I suppose I can find the software to do it, but I think I'll just buy the "Pro" version and be done with it. You have to go back to that index.php url and download what it points to. PHP is a scripting language used for dynamic content. It is not the program itself. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a Windows "Remove Program". I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I am up all night trying to fix it. Eisboch If it really is Norton, you just go to Add/Remove software. If you don't have Norton in your Add/Remove list, it is a Trojan. |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:35:28 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
If it really is Norton, you just go to Add/Remove software. If you don't have Norton in your Add/Remove list, it is a Trojan. Nah, Norton is a special case. You need special tools and incantations to remove that POS. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... I have used Vonage for about 3 years and have had NO significant problems since it was installed. When I first had it installed I used to have to reboot the telephone modem about once a month, but that was nothing more than turning it on and off. I used to have the same problem with my cable modem. For some reason, I no longer have that problem with my cable or telephone modem. I understand if he have a real problems their customer "no service" can really suck. If Vonage goes belly up, I will try out T-Mobile's VOIP at $10 a month. Our old fashioned land lines rarely get used. Once in a while we the fax line, but even that has become very infrequent due to e-mail. For telephone service, we both use cell phones. I see no reason whatsoever to sign up for Comcast Internet telephone service. Eisboch We just dumped our $60 a month basic phone service hard wired to the house for a cell phone at $10 a month.. We only use it to filter salesmen and stuff anyway. We use our personal cells for everything else. For our business however we still use the copper, I can't stand talking business with someone using a cheesy voip or cell phone. ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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wrote in message t... On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:12:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote: This morning I tried to install the free AVG program. Windows on the new computer was unable to install it because it doesn't recognize ".php" files. I suppose I can find the software to do it, but I think I'll just buy the "Pro" version and be done with it. You have to go back to that index.php url and download what it points to. PHP is a scripting language used for dynamic content. It is not the program itself. Oh. Thanks. I thought it had something to do with hemorrhoids. :-) Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Eisboch, There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) so you will provide them with your credit card info. I had a neighbor who picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. You had to delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it. You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like you have picked up a Trojan. Anything is possible, but I doubt it. It's a brand new computer and the Norton screen came up during the initial start up and program loading of the computer. This was 4 days before it was ever connected to the Internet. It first came up with the initial start up after loading Windows, etc. (as it should). I clicked on the "close without installing" because I didn't want to install Norton. It still pops up whenever I do a cold reboot, and I continue to click "close without installing". This morning I tried to install the free AVG program. Windows on the new computer was unable to install it because it doesn't recognize ".php" files. I suppose I can find the software to do it, but I think I'll just buy the "Pro" version and be done with it. Eisboch Two words: Zone Alarm... ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Eisboch, There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) so you will provide them with your credit card info. I had a neighbor who picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. You had to delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it. You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like you have picked up a Trojan. Anything is possible, but I doubt it. It's a brand new computer and the Norton screen came up during the initial start up and program loading of the computer. This was 4 days before it was ever connected to the Internet. It first came up with the initial start up after loading Windows, etc. (as it should). I clicked on the "close without installing" because I didn't want to install Norton. It still pops up whenever I do a cold reboot, and I continue to click "close without installing". This morning I tried to install the free AVG program. Windows on the new computer was unable to install it because it doesn't recognize ".php" files. I suppose I can find the software to do it, but I think I'll just buy the "Pro" version and be done with it. Eisboch Considering the known removal problems with Norton, Reggie's suggestion borders on the insane. You downloaded the wrong file from AVG...it's an *.exe file. Go he http://free.avg.com/download-avg-ant...s-free-edition Look at the bottom of the left hand column that describes features. Click on that button that sez download...it'll go to another download screen. Click on the "download now" button for the freebie. If you get into a VISTA jam, call me. |
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"Boater" wrote in message ... You downloaded the wrong file from AVG...it's an *.exe file. Go he http://free.avg.com/download-avg-ant...s-free-edition Look at the bottom of the left hand column that describes features. Click on that button that sez download...it'll go to another download screen. Click on the "download now" button for the freebie. If you get into a VISTA jam, call me. Ah! I found the right one. Actually I initially did exactly as you described, but when I clicked on the "download now" freebie button, it downloaded a file called "index.php". In fact, I just did it again and it tried to load the .php file again. But, then I clicked on the "Installation Files" tab on the page and found the .exe download. Got it and will install it in a bit. Thanks. Eisboch |
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On Jan 1, 10:43*am, wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:37udnXRVFdcOP8fUnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@giganew s.com... You should've just called Harry he can fix anything. Anybody should. *Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his Beachouse. *All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions. Our system was dependent on Comcast. * *That* was the problem. Eisboch I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a glitch. Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion...... I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices on your home network. I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was one unit. *It was a modem/wireless router in one package. The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate unit from the modem. I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the directions on the disk that came with the router. *It was duck soup.. * Set up a secure network and all works fine. Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh? The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. * They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like me would never know you could do. Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. *I read up on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. *There were quite a few updates that had to be downloaded and installed. Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. * Whenever I boot up the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I refuse every time. * I want to figure out how to get rid of that before installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on. Eisboch Eisboch, There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) *so you will provide them with your credit card info. *I had a neighbor who picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. *You had to delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it. You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like you have picked up a Trojan.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting theory, but Norton is a sleazy op that does everything it can to keep from being removed.. McAffe btw as I noted before is a dog of a system that drains your resources nearly as much as AOL... Dick, try Zone Alarm like I said before...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Norton is the AOL of virus protection. |
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On Jan 1, 10:46*am, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 09:18:57 -0500, Boater penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Tom Francis wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:49:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message news:BfqdndLU19LWgMHUnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@giganews. com... "Eisboch" wrote in message news:lpSdnYKfb4TElsHUnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews .com... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec: http://tinyurl.com/7v555b I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing their bloat-ware I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the Symantec site for other versions. Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. *Sometimes it's hard to locate the free version URL. Thanks. *I read it. *Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it. I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. *There was a leading advertisement to get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and discovered it was one of those "free to try" deals. * The version I downloaded from: http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320... is the basic, "free" file. *Hold on ..... it's file name is: *"index.php" Haven't installed it yet though. *Been reading that there have been some problems getting it to install. * Need to research it a bit more. Eisboch I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. *I think you know to remove Norton before the AVG install. Well, that's where I am hung up. * I haven't actually installed Norton on the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. * It still asks to be installed every time I reboot. * I figured I'd try to learn how to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. * Your link provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a Windows "Remove Program". I hate doing stuff like this. *Every time I try to do something more involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I am up all night trying to fix it. You need to use a more mystical approach - be one with the program and one with the computer. OOOOMMMMMMMM....... Oh - I forgot to define mystical approach. Take it to your local geek store and have them do it for you which is what I did with the last new computer I bought - took it to the local nerd shop, said remove the bloatware - two hours and $50 later, presto - gone. OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM...... Another pain in the ass security suite is McAfee's. I don't use it, but it now comes as a "free trial" download for HP Windoze Home Servers. Some users have had a lot of trouble with it, so I didn't install the freebie. I use something else on my server. I think McAfee's is the single worst software I have ever had the misfortune to load on a computer. -- Agent 5.00 Build 1171 Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepagehttp://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." * --Unknown * * * * * * * * * * * * * -----------------www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com- *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ------------------ Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I went for years and years not liking Mcafee. But Comcast offers it with their internet service, I loaded on my desktop and couldn't be happier with it, things have changed. |
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Boater wrote:
D K wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not. I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech support" guys in Bombay. Good luck! Yup. That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it completely. I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install it every time it boots. I was told by someone with more computer smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about 4 years now. I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with this new Vista machine. Eisboch Try this: Open the "Run" command. Type "prefetch". It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really). At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the problem. http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across says not to delete it. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** This came from my IT guy. If you Google "prefetch files" you will not see that article come up first. You are a compulsive liar, WAFA. I thought I was in your Bozo's bin? What happened there, fat boy? |
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Boater wrote:
Boater wrote: D K wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not. I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech support" guys in Bombay. Good luck! Yup. That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it completely. I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install it every time it boots. I was told by someone with more computer smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about 4 years now. I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with this new Vista machine. Eisboch Try this: Open the "Run" command. Type "prefetch". It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really). At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the problem. http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across says not to delete it. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id here. Schittheads-uber-alles. Sure. And you were on the case a mere 26 minutes later. WAFA. |
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