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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. "Quietly?" What does that mean? Are you doing to track down his home address, drive by and take pictures? |
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. |
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Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:47:11 -0500, Jim wrote: How do you ever find time to work on all these projects and stay glued to your computer screen. A mortal who has done all you say you did would have to be at least 175 years old. Quantum reality. Harry can be in two places at the same time. Word has it in the theoritical physics world that Harry can actually be in three places at the same time or three places at different times. Truly amazing. Indeed, and it keeps me from buying experimental outboards and experimental cameras. It's theoretical, by the way. I think if you are going to expound in a pseudo-intellectual fashion, you should at least spell the important words correctly. :) |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. would i then just call people assholes? |
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On Dec 30, 10:30*am, Boater wrote:
Tom Francis wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:47:11 -0500, Jim wrote: How do you ever find time to work on all these projects and stay glued to your computer screen. A mortal who has done all you say you did would have to be at least 175 years old. Quantum reality. Harry can be in two places at the same time. Word has it in the theoritical physics world that Harry can actually be in three places at the same time or three places at different times. Truly amazing. Indeed, and it keeps me from buying experimental outboards and experimental cameras. It's theoretical, by the way. I think if you are going to expound in a pseudo-intellectual fashion, you should at least spell the important words correctly. * :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - This from the guy that has absolutely no problem trusted all of his data to beta software....... Yep, never stray from your narrow pathway. |
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On Dec 30, 9:32*am, Boater wrote:
Tom Francis wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Tom Francis wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. *Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yep. Don't do it. I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home. That's Harry. *Harry is successful at everything he attempts. He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. *To date, Harry has proven extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all things, opera. *I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical - he's got the knowledge base - apparently. So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC for your own home. It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that. Reggie, of course, is full of schitt. I was successful with the house in NoVa because I had to be. If I had let the original GC get away with his shenanigans, it would have been a financial disaster. And all successful at the time meant was that I was able to complete the project a little over budget. It was a hellacious, time-consuming, aggravating project, and I would not do it again, especially these days.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pussy. |
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On Dec 30, 9:25*am, Tom Francis
wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:43 -0800 (PST), wrote: I wonder which codes he used in his area, including building code, It's got to have four walls and a roof. plumbing code, It's gotta flush - somewhere. electrical code, AC or DC? Or both? gas code, No beans. ADA compliance, No teeth. I'm guessing that's as far as Harry got! |
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. would i then just call people assholes? I'm not a fearful person, and would not be intimidated if some asshole from here showed up at my front door looking for trouble. You, however, are a fearful person, which is why you behave like an asshole here, hide behind your handles, et cetera. |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. would i then just call people assholes? I'm not a fearful person, and would not be intimidated if some asshole from here showed up at my front door looking for trouble. You, however, are a fearful person, which is why you behave like an asshole here, hide behind your handles, et cetera. Is Boater your real legal name? You keep changing your handle through out the course of the day, it is hard to keep up with you. Are you Real Boater, Boater, hk or what? Since you are not afraid, what is your full legal name, your address and your phone number. If you don't post it here, obviously you are a scared little pussy. |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Knowing who you are hasn't improved your behavior or has it? |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. would i then just call people assholes? I'm not a fearful person, and would not be intimidated if some asshole from here showed up at my front door looking for trouble. You, however, are a fearful person, which is why you behave like an asshole here, hide behind your handles, et cetera. Anyone showing up at Krause's front door looking for trouble is going to get his head shot clean off, according to Harry N. Krause, owner of a very fine Berretta Shotgun. |
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Jim wrote:
I'm not a fearful person, and would not be intimidated if some asshole from here showed up at my front door looking for trouble. You, however, are a fearful person, which is why you behave like an asshole here, hide behind your handles, et cetera. Anyone showing up at Krause's front door looking for trouble is going to get his head shot clean off, according to Harry N. Krause, owner of a very fine Berretta Shotgun. I can't figure it out, if Harry N Krause is not a fearful person, why does he change his nick name at least 3 times a day, and not use his legal name Harry N Krause. I also can't figure out why he doesn't post his name, address and telephone number in rec.boats? |
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On Dec 30, 11:04*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Jim wrote: I'm not a fearful person, and would not be intimidated if some asshole from here showed up at my front door looking for trouble. You, however, are a fearful person, which is why you behave like an asshole here, hide behind your handles, et cetera. Anyone showing up at Krause's front door looking for trouble is going to get his head shot clean off, according to Harry N. Krause, owner of a very fine Berretta Shotgun. I can't figure it out, if Harry N Krause is not a fearful person, why does he change his nick name at least 3 times a day, and not use his legal name Harry N Krause. *I also can't figure out why he doesn't post his name, address and telephone number in rec.boats? Harry's a first class coward. I told him I'd take his wager. 100 g's would look good in my retirement fund. I'd reveal my real name, address and number, and Harry must prove beyond doubt that he owns a 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat, his wife has a Dr. Dr. degree, and his father received a fireboat welcome in NYC. I'll side bet that he'll slither out of it by childish name calling. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Knowing who you are hasn't improved your behavior or has it? I'm not a coward. Reggie is. |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:34:39 -0500, Boater
wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. I can imagine the waste of time. I had the misfortune to have my house torched once - if it wasn't for a neighbor coming home at 2 AM and raising the alarm we might have been killed. Anyway, I hired a private adjuster, and you wouldn't believe the **** I went through with him and his crews. Had to show his "carpenter" how to cut stringers. Came home from work one day and his "plaster guys" had done the kitchen with 1/2" drywall, no shims, to replace the nearly full inch of plaster and lath. There was almost a half inch gap between the door and window casings and the drywall. Had it all torn out by the next day I got home from work, but there was always some BS waiting for me. I'd leave work saying, "Let's see what they ****ed up today." Anyway, I finally got everything done about 85% right, but I never yelled so much and got in so many faces in such a short period of time. Actually, I went easy on the crews, they were what they were, but laid into the adjuster, who's really a GC, a lot. What was good is the adjuster did keep us in the house because he was real good at getting the essentials quickly restored. That was important to me as I had the wife and 4 little kids to think about, and work, so there was no way I even had time to be my own general. Win some, lose some. --Vic |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Knowing who you are hasn't improved your behavior or has it? I'm not a coward. Reggie is. Wanna bet? pull out that Zimmerman DNR registration. |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:34:39 -0500, Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. I can imagine the waste of time. I had the misfortune to have my house torched once - if it wasn't for a neighbor coming home at 2 AM and raising the alarm we might have been killed. Anyway, I hired a private adjuster, and you wouldn't believe the **** I went through with him and his crews. Had to show his "carpenter" how to cut stringers. Came home from work one day and his "plaster guys" had done the kitchen with 1/2" drywall, no shims, to replace the nearly full inch of plaster and lath. There was almost a half inch gap between the door and window casings and the drywall. Had it all torn out by the next day I got home from work, but there was always some BS waiting for me. I'd leave work saying, "Let's see what they ****ed up today." Anyway, I finally got everything done about 85% right, but I never yelled so much and got in so many faces in such a short period of time. Actually, I went easy on the crews, they were what they were, but laid into the adjuster, who's really a GC, a lot. What was good is the adjuster did keep us in the house because he was real good at getting the essentials quickly restored. That was important to me as I had the wife and 4 little kids to think about, and work, so there was no way I even had time to be my own general. Win some, lose some. --Vic I didn't have the time, either, at the time, but I had to do it. The construction manager (CM) I hired, though, helped save the day. I fired the carpenter and crew the original general had hired the first week on the job after I took over. I tried to be on the site at 6:30 am, and to do that I had to stop at 7-11 for a big cup of coffee on the way to the lot. I had already had a "discussion" with the carpenter the first day when he said he had seen deer on the land and was going to bring his rifle to shoot them. Told him no. He was to give me his contract for doing the rough carpentry the first week. Anyway, I'm rolling into 7-11 for mass quantities of coffee, and there he is, buying two six packs of beer at 6:30 in the morning. I had heard he was a "drinker" from the construction manager, who knew him, and there was the evidence. I waited outside the store for him, and told him I was not going to be retaining he and his crew for carpentry. He was really ****ed. Paid him for the week and cut him loose. Most of the subs I hired, though, worked out pretty well, but they really had to be closely supervised, a job the CM handled for me. The drywall guys were a trip...two brothers and two cousins who called themselves "Born Again Drywall." Really. They were great guys, hard workers, highly skilled and meticulous. Listened to gospel music all day long at high volumes. |
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:00 -0500, Boater
wrote: Anyway, I'm rolling into 7-11 for mass quantities of coffee, and there he is, buying two six packs of beer at 6:30 in the morning. I had heard he was a "drinker" from the construction manager, who knew him, and there was the evidence. LOL. My guys were better than that. I didn't find their empty vodka bottles until a week after they left. Smart guys. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:33:00 -0500, Boater wrote: Anyway, I'm rolling into 7-11 for mass quantities of coffee, and there he is, buying two six packs of beer at 6:30 in the morning. I had heard he was a "drinker" from the construction manager, who knew him, and there was the evidence. LOL. My guys were better than that. I didn't find their empty vodka bottles until a week after they left. Smart guys. --Vic Obviously, your guys were classier. |
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On Dec 30, 11:12*am, Jim wrote:
wrote: On Dec 30, 11:04 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Jim wrote: I'm not a fearful person, and would not be intimidated if some asshole from here showed up at my front door looking for trouble. You, however, are a fearful person, which is why you behave like an asshole here, hide behind your handles, et cetera. Anyone showing up at Krause's front door looking for trouble is going to get his head shot clean off, according to Harry N. Krause, owner of a very fine Berretta Shotgun. I can't figure it out, if Harry N Krause is not a fearful person, why does he change his nick name at least 3 times a day, and not use his legal name Harry N Krause. *I also can't figure out why he doesn't post his name, address and telephone number in rec.boats? Harry's a first class coward. I told him I'd take his wager. 100 g's would look good in my retirement fund. I'd reveal my real name, address and number, and Harry must prove beyond doubt that he owns a 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat, his wife has a Dr. Dr. degree, and his father received a fireboat welcome in NYC. I'll side bet that he'll slither out of it by childish name calling. You've already won the side bet, haven't you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - True! Many times over. |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Knowing who you are hasn't improved your behavior or has it? I'm not a coward. Reggie is. Aren't you the guy who said "My mommy didn't raise a stupid boy" as an excuse for skipping out of the draft? That's cowardly in my book. What say you Krause? |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Knowing who you are hasn't improved your behavior or has it? I'm not a coward. Reggie is. You are a verbal bully. You are afraid to meet those who you have verbally abused in person for fear of having your attitude physically adjusted. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:34:39 -0500, Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. I can imagine the waste of time. I had the misfortune to have my house torched once - if it wasn't for a neighbor coming home at 2 AM and raising the alarm we might have been killed. Anyway, I hired a private adjuster, and you wouldn't believe the **** I went through with him and his crews. Had to show his "carpenter" how to cut stringers. Came home from work one day and his "plaster guys" had done the kitchen with 1/2" drywall, no shims, to replace the nearly full inch of plaster and lath. There was almost a half inch gap between the door and window casings and the drywall. Had it all torn out by the next day I got home from work, but there was always some BS waiting for me. I'd leave work saying, "Let's see what they ****ed up today." Anyway, I finally got everything done about 85% right, but I never yelled so much and got in so many faces in such a short period of time. Actually, I went easy on the crews, they were what they were, but laid into the adjuster, who's really a GC, a lot. What was good is the adjuster did keep us in the house because he was real good at getting the essentials quickly restored. That was important to me as I had the wife and 4 little kids to think about, and work, so there was no way I even had time to be my own general. Win some, lose some. --Vic In 1976 when I was a lot younger and more energetic, I built a cedar cape Cod style house myself. This was the norm up this way at that time. In fact, there was a Provincial Govt program where those with minimal savings for a downpayment could use sweat equity in order to get a $23K mortgage to build. Of course I couldn't build my house for that amount...the program was geared to small bungalows on modest serviced lots. I had to find a 2nd mortgage for another $9K. Thought I was in debt up to my eyeballs way back then..... but the house was beautiful.on a 2/3 acre lot with well & septic system way out in the country (about 20 miles from city center) To add to my financial burden, I traded in my 5 yr old Volkswagen Beatle for a $5K Dodge Aspen S/W. It all started in march of 1975 when I took over a share in a co-op program when a member was transfered to the states by his company. Wife and I cleared the lot of trees & brush while snow was still on the ground so we could burn off as much as possible in big bonfires. I hired a company to dig the foundation hole and another to put up the concrete foundation. Got my brother and a few buddies to help out putting the 1st floor on...then the wife and I would build the walls and ask relatives to show up to help erect same. The big 4' x 12" x 16' douglas fir beams were tricky to put up (post & beam construction). Once, my brother & law and I fell off the ladders dropping the beam and narrowly missing me on the floor. I did hire a friend of my wifes' family to help finish off the double course cedar shingles on the exterior walls, and another guy to lay the asphalt shingles on the roof. (turned out the roofing guy was married to a cousin of mine). Once inside, an old friend who was a licensed electrician got the permit but a friend of my brothers (apprentice electrician) did the work. Next we got other neighbourhood friends to do the plumbing while home for Christmas vacation from Alberta. Lastly the in-laws gyprocked the entire house no charge. I just supplied the materials. Finally got in in February 1976. A few years later I added an attached 1.5 story garage all by myself. Now when I have a project, I hire a guy from my wifes' former company to do most of the work while I act as assistant. (re addition for mon in 2002, replacement of all the old windows with vinyl, tearing down of old garage & building of 2 new sheds, decking & fence additions etc) |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Knowing who you are hasn't improved your behavior or has it? I'm not a coward. Reggie is. You are a verbal bully. You are afraid to meet those who you have verbally abused in person for fear of having your attitude physically adjusted. That's simple-minded bull****. First, there are very very very few people in this newsgroup I care to meet. I certainly am not going to waste my time meeting someone I don't care to meet just for the sake of "meeting" them. Second, I seriously doubt any of the loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in this newsgroup have what it takes to adjust my attitude. Most of them are cowards hiding behind screen names, and fearful of their identities leaking out. My identity is no secret. Third, if any of the little schitts show up at my front door looking for trouble, I guarantee they will find it. If they show up to say hello, they'll be welcomed. Fourth, when your butt buddy Herring's old boat was out for maintenance, I invited him out to go fishing. He turned it down. If I recall, I invited you out, too. If memory serves, you are the only two loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in my immediate area, right? Short-guy Scotty, another loud-mouthed right-wing schitt, has an open invite to stop by any time. So, who do you think I fear? Brain-dead Loogy? Reggie NoBalls? Florida Jim, the twerp so frightened he doesn't want anyone to know where in Central Florida he lives? |
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Boater wrote:
So, who do you think I fear? Brain-dead Loogy? Reggie NoBalls? Florida Jim, the twerp so frightened he doesn't want anyone to know where in Central Florida he lives? You seem very scared to post your real name, address and phone number. Why is that? |
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On Dec 30, 12:41*pm, Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. *Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... *or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? * What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Knowing who you are hasn't improved your behavior or has it? I'm not a coward. Reggie is. You are a verbal bully. You are afraid to meet those who you have verbally abused in person for fear of having your attitude physically adjusted. That's simple-minded bull****. First, there are very very very few people in this newsgroup I care to meet. I certainly am not going to waste my time meeting someone I don't care to meet just for the sake of "meeting" them. Second, I seriously doubt any of the loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in this newsgroup have what it takes to adjust my attitude. Most of them are cowards hiding behind screen names, and fearful of their identities leaking out. My identity is no secret. Third, if any of the little schitts show up at my front door looking for trouble, I guarantee they will find it. If they show up to say hello, they'll be welcomed. Fourth, when your butt buddy Herring's old boat was out for maintenance, I invited him out to go fishing. He turned it down. If I recall, I invited you out, too. If memory serves, you are the only two loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in my immediate area, right? Short-guy Scotty, another loud-mouthed right-wing schitt, has an open invite to stop by any time. So, who do you think I fear? Brain-dead Loogy? Reggie NoBalls? Florida Jim, the twerp so frightened he doesn't want anyone to know where in Central Florida he lives?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For shooting or for fishing?? |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: wrote: Fourth, when your butt buddy Herring's old boat was out for maintenance, I invited him out to go fishing. He turned it down. If I recall, I invited you out, too. If memory serves, you are the only two loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in my immediate area, right? Short-guy Scotty, another loud-mouthed right-wing schitt, has an open invite to stop by any time. So, who do you think I fear? Brain-dead Loogy? Reggie NoBalls? Florida Jim, the twerp so frightened he doesn't want anyone to know where in Central Florida he lives?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For shooting or for fishing?? It's up to you and the weather. If the weather sucks, we can go up to the indoor range near Andrews AFB and shoot paper targets at 25 yards. You have to present your driver's license or another acceptable photo ID to get on the range...that would mean Reggie NoBalls would have to wait in the car. I have a drivers license. Do you want to see a photocopy of it? Nope. I'm not the range officer. But, after you visit the wizard and get some balls, why not post your full legal name here? What happened to your balls. You talk real big, but when asked what your legal name, address and phone number, you ignore the question. If you don't mind, I can Google up your name address and phone number answer and post it here. Since you believe this should be posted in a public forum, unless you tell me you have NO BALLS and would prefer I don't post it here, I will do it for you. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Maybe harry is Ethiopian. Or Nigerian |
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: wrote: Fourth, when your butt buddy Herring's old boat was out for maintenance, I invited him out to go fishing. He turned it down. If I recall, I invited you out, too. If memory serves, you are the only two loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in my immediate area, right? Short-guy Scotty, another loud-mouthed right-wing schitt, has an open invite to stop by any time. So, who do you think I fear? Brain-dead Loogy? Reggie NoBalls? Florida Jim, the twerp so frightened he doesn't want anyone to know where in Central Florida he lives?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For shooting or for fishing?? It's up to you and the weather. If the weather sucks, we can go up to the indoor range near Andrews AFB and shoot paper targets at 25 yards. You have to present your driver's license or another acceptable photo ID to get on the range...that would mean Reggie NoBalls would have to wait in the car. I have a drivers license. Do you want to see a photocopy of it? Nope. I'm not the range officer. But, after you visit the wizard and get some balls, why not post your full legal name here? What happened to your balls. You talk real big, but when asked what your legal name, address and phone number, you ignore the question. If you don't mind, I can Google up your name address and phone number answer and post it here. Since you believe this should be posted in a public forum, unless you tell me you have NO BALLS and would prefer I don't post it here, I will do it for you. You are one of the major abusers of the personal info of other posters here, fella. There is no way you can deny this, but I am sure you will try. If your real name were out in the open, your behavior here would change dramatically because of your innate cowardice. |
Building your own home
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: wrote: Fourth, when your butt buddy Herring's old boat was out for maintenance, I invited him out to go fishing. He turned it down. If I recall, I invited you out, too. If memory serves, you are the only two loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in my immediate area, right? Short-guy Scotty, another loud-mouthed right-wing schitt, has an open invite to stop by any time. So, who do you think I fear? Brain-dead Loogy? Reggie NoBalls? Florida Jim, the twerp so frightened he doesn't want anyone to know where in Central Florida he lives?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For shooting or for fishing?? It's up to you and the weather. If the weather sucks, we can go up to the indoor range near Andrews AFB and shoot paper targets at 25 yards. You have to present your driver's license or another acceptable photo ID to get on the range...that would mean Reggie NoBalls would have to wait in the car. I have a drivers license. Do you want to see a photocopy of it? Nope. I'm not the range officer. But, after you visit the wizard and get some balls, why not post your full legal name here? What happened to your balls. You talk real big, but when asked what your legal name, address and phone number, you ignore the question. If you don't mind, I can Google up your name address and phone number answer and post it here. Since you believe this should be posted in a public forum, unless you tell me you have NO BALLS and would prefer I don't post it here, I will do it for you. You are one of the major abusers of the personal info of other posters here, fella. There is no way you can deny this, but I am sure you will try. If your real name were out in the open, your behavior here would change dramatically because of your innate cowardice. So do you care if I post your name address and phone number in rec.boats or are you a NO BALLS COWARD? |
Building your own home
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Maybe harry is Ethiopian. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
Maybe harry is Ethiopian. Ya think? Maybe that's why I prefer dark-haired wimmins. |
Building your own home
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: wrote: Fourth, when your butt buddy Herring's old boat was out for maintenance, I invited him out to go fishing. He turned it down. If I recall, I invited you out, too. If memory serves, you are the only two loud-mouthed right-wing schitts in my immediate area, right? Short-guy Scotty, another loud-mouthed right-wing schitt, has an open invite to stop by any time. So, who do you think I fear? Brain-dead Loogy? Reggie NoBalls? Florida Jim, the twerp so frightened he doesn't want anyone to know where in Central Florida he lives?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For shooting or for fishing?? It's up to you and the weather. If the weather sucks, we can go up to the indoor range near Andrews AFB and shoot paper targets at 25 yards. You have to present your driver's license or another acceptable photo ID to get on the range...that would mean Reggie NoBalls would have to wait in the car. I have a drivers license. Do you want to see a photocopy of it? Nope. I'm not the range officer. But, after you visit the wizard and get some balls, why not post your full legal name here? What happened to your balls. You talk real big, but when asked what your legal name, address and phone number, you ignore the question. If you don't mind, I can Google up your name address and phone number answer and post it here. Since you believe this should be posted in a public forum, unless you tell me you have NO BALLS and would prefer I don't post it here, I will do it for you. You are one of the major abusers of the personal info of other posters here, fella. There is no way you can deny this, but I am sure you will try. If your real name were out in the open, your behavior here would change dramatically because of your innate cowardice. So do you care if I post your name address and phone number in rec.boats or are you a NO BALLS COWARD? Post your first and there's no shortage of numnuts who can post Harry's info directly after. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: Maybe harry is Ethiopian. Ya think? Maybe that's why I prefer dark-haired wimmins. Or related to Nigerians. We're all related to Africans, Bilious. Well, maybe you aren't. You're so special. |
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"Boater" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: Maybe harry is Ethiopian. Ya think? Maybe that's why I prefer dark-haired wimmins. Or related to Nigerians. |
Building your own home
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:28:57 -0500, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Gene wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice? Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor. Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it happen. No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license. Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I thinking about adding on to the workshop..... .... Oh, never mind...... It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering. Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license bond from the state. With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning. It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million. Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides. Nice story, and pictures? There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the addresses of the houses. Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name? Quietly; not the way you would do it. I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the deal? Simple. My feeling is that if your full legal name were publicly known here, you'd be far less of a snark. Tell him, Harry! I'm proof. There's nothing snarky about me. What were those NoVa addresses again, Harry. We've got a lot of information available in our tax system. Then you could *prove* you actually did something you said you did. I would think you'd be proud! -- ** Good Day! ** John H |
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