BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   General (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/)
-   -   Building your own home (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/101155-building-your-own-home.html)

Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 01:05 AM

Building your own home
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Harry,
You did tell us your acted as your GC on your present house. Did
you do as much work on the NV house as your current house?

Reggie:

You aren't going to be contracting your own new house. Move on.

I am entertaining the idea.



You don't have the balls to do it. But if you did, it would be
entertaining...for us.


Harry I guess the GC'ing on your Northern Va. house didn't work out
well, and that is why you didn't GC your real home.



Your guess would be...wrong.

Jim December 30th 08 01:13 AM

Building your own home (Why does Harry Lie)
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
hk wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market
to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor.
Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of
advice?


Go for it and keep us posted. It will be great fun to read. And by
all means, get Loogy to help you.
-----------------
www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed*
Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road
-----------------

Hey, didn't you build you own house? I figure if you can do it, it
should be a snap.


Once again, I suggest you get Loogy to help you. The two of you
should make a wonderful pair.


Did you have any problems finding good trades when building your home?
I would assume you had great trades for the brickwork, but I was
thinking more about plumbing and electrician etc.



As soon as you post your full legal name here and I can verify it,
I'll be glad to fill you in on the good, the bad, and the ugly in
reference to serving as your own GC on the construction of a personal
home. I will tell you that it is not a challenge to be taken on lightly.


You didn't build the house your wife owns. She bought an "improved
property" in 2003, which means it had an existing structure on it. The
structure on the property your wife owns was built in 2002 by "BUILTRITE
AT CHELTENHAM KNOLLS INC." In fact BUILTRITE AT CHELTENHAM KNOLLS INC
built all of the homes on the street your wife bought her house on. The
Maryland State tax records don't lie: http://tinyurl.com/a25mru



The question is why does Harry lie about everything? What does he have
to gain? He knows we are on to him. Why do the lies continue? This guy
is one sick puppy.

John H[_2_] December 30th 08 01:20 AM

Building your own home
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:05:54 -0500, Boater wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Harry,
You did tell us your acted as your GC on your present house. Did
you do as much work on the NV house as your current house?

Reggie:

You aren't going to be contracting your own new house. Move on.

I am entertaining the idea.


You don't have the balls to do it. But if you did, it would be
entertaining...for us.


Harry I guess the GC'ing on your Northern Va. house didn't work out
well, and that is why you didn't GC your real home.



Your guess would be...wrong.


Well?

Address, photos, etc.

Something to be proud of, no?
--
** Good Day! **

John H

John H[_2_] December 30th 08 01:24 AM

Building your own home (Why does Harry Lie)
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:13:20 -0500, Jim wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
hk wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market
to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor.
Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of
advice?


Go for it and keep us posted. It will be great fun to read. And by
all means, get Loogy to help you.
-----------------
www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed*
Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road
-----------------

Hey, didn't you build you own house? I figure if you can do it, it
should be a snap.


Once again, I suggest you get Loogy to help you. The two of you
should make a wonderful pair.


Did you have any problems finding good trades when building your home?
I would assume you had great trades for the brickwork, but I was
thinking more about plumbing and electrician etc.


As soon as you post your full legal name here and I can verify it,
I'll be glad to fill you in on the good, the bad, and the ugly in
reference to serving as your own GC on the construction of a personal
home. I will tell you that it is not a challenge to be taken on lightly.


You didn't build the house your wife owns. She bought an "improved
property" in 2003, which means it had an existing structure on it. The
structure on the property your wife owns was built in 2002 by "BUILTRITE
AT CHELTENHAM KNOLLS INC." In fact BUILTRITE AT CHELTENHAM KNOLLS INC
built all of the homes on the street your wife bought her house on. The
Maryland State tax records don't lie: http://tinyurl.com/a25mru



The question is why does Harry lie about everything? What does he have
to gain? He knows we are on to him. Why do the lies continue? This guy
is one sick puppy.


I think it was an error. He meant to say 'a home in Northern Virginia' when
discussing his home.

Any minute now he's going to give us the address and photos of the NoVa
residence he's talking about.

Unless...................that's another lie. Surely not.
--
** Good Day! **

John H

Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 01:34 AM

Building your own home
 
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......



It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I
hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way
overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up
the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement
of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's
license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and
my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs
poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus,
and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site
for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet
finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and
it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate
market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it
up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40
feet tall and full triple wides.








[email protected] December 30th 08 01:38 AM

Building your own home
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:13:23 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build....


Try to convince Loogy!

John H[_2_] December 30th 08 01:42 AM

Building your own home
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:34:39 -0500, Boater wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......



It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I
hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way
overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up
the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement
of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's
license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and
my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs
poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus,
and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site
for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet
finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and
it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate
market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it
up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40
feet tall and full triple wides.

LOL!
--
** Good Day! **

John H

Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 01:42 AM

Building your own home
 
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:13:23 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build....


Try to convince Loogy!



Atlanta is safer with Loogy continuing to wallow in his stupidity.

BAR[_3_] December 30th 08 03:06 AM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......



It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I
hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way
overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up
the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement
of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's
license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and
my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs
poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus,
and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site
for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet
finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and
it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate
market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it
up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40
feet tall and full triple wides.


Again, you are telling lies. You can't prove either home was owned by
you and that the "big house" was built for or by you.

Mike[_10_] December 30th 08 03:07 AM

Building your own home
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build a
new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Reggie,

Be careful. I'm a General Contractor in CA (30 years in the trades, 18 with
an active GC license), and it's not as easy as letting your fingers do the
walking to find the sub-trades you need. Most GCs have relationships with
the various trades, and those relationships can make a job move along much
more smoothly. A group of subcontractors that have worked together before is
much like the workings of a swiss watch. Haphazardly gathering subtrades
based on price and/or references can wind up working like a busted up cuckoo
clock.

Another problem, is settling disputes that always arise. These are also best
handled by an expert. There's always one tradesman that says, "it's not my
job." So whose job is it to install the roof to wall flashing? The roofer,
the siding contractor, the mechanical contractor, maybe the framer? A good
GC will sort it out quickly, so you don't have to. What about the condensate
line from the air-handler? A union plumber will not install that line, a
non-union shop will. Sure, a small item, but the small items add up.

That brings us to cost. Can you save a few bucks... yup, you probably can.
Will a (sub)contractor work for free? Nope... they might as well stay home
and watch Oprah. A good GC will (hopefully) already be getting the best
price possible from his/her subs. There is not usually much room to
negotiate the price much further. Many people think that a price from a
person providing labor is different than that of a supplier. It's really
not. If you estimate that the job is going to take xx hours, and you pay
your guys xx dollars, there's not a lot of room to work. The GC will take
your plans, get estimates/proposals from all the sub-trades, and provide you
with an accurate estimate for the work. In general, there are no surprises,
unless you switch from Millgard windows to Pella g. Depending on your
arrangement with the GC, he will either mark up the job (generally 15%), for
your final cost, or simply add on a flat "GC Fee" to the total for your
cost. Either way, he is charging a service for his "expertise." It's up to
you to decide if it's worth it. Do you constantly want to be calling 10
people to get your job done, or only one. Someone here said you can save
40%... that's ridiculous.

One last thing... your budget is your biggest enemy, or your greatest
friend. A neighbor of mine chose to remodel his home, acting as his own GC.
I wasn't an option since I only do small subdivisions, and custom homes (no
remodels). He came up with his own budget, and proceeded to gather subs. I
begged him to get a GC involved, but he didn't want to spend the extra
money. Bottom line, he was 50% over budget, and it took 14 months instead of
8 because of all the unforseen "stuff" he had missed. It still would have
cost him that extra 50%, but he would have known up front if he had a GC
involved, and could have planned accordingly.

Just my friendly advice.

--Mike



Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 03:12 AM

Building your own home
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......



It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and
my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs
poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and
bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on
the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when
I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about
$1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40
feet tall and full triple wides.


Again, you are telling lies. You can't prove either home was owned by
you and that the "big house" was built for or by you.



Awww, I'm supposed to be concerned about proving things to right-wing
trash like you?

Please.



BAR[_3_] December 30th 08 03:22 AM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least
40 feet tall and full triple wides.


Again, you are telling lies. You can't prove either home was owned by
you and that the "big house" was built for or by you.



Awww, I'm supposed to be concerned about proving things to right-wing
trash like you?

Please.


You are seeking acceptance from some here in the group. However you feel
that you need to puff up your life's accomplishments to gain that
acceptance rather than just being a normal guy. Your outrageous claims
draw many to analyze your alleged accomplishments. Those who do the
analysis have actually done what you claim to have done and immediately
call bull****.


Mike[_10_] December 30th 08 03:38 AM

Building your own home
 
I just think it hillarious that all of Harry's personal info is being posted
here, like a flag waving in the breeze. No one would care if he weren't such
an asshole. Of course he spins it like he wanted it this way, but he's
cowering in the basement like a little pussy, hoping he didn't **** someone
off *too* badly. g

--Mike

"BAR" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone
in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......



It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I
hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way
overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up
the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement
of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's license
bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and my
bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs poured,
hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus, and
completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site for
about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet
finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and it
was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate
market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up
on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and the
blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40 feet
tall and full triple wides.


Again, you are telling lies. You can't prove either home was owned by you
and that the "big house" was built for or by you.




Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 03:40 AM

Building your own home
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the
general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned
out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and
could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad,
and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at
least 40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Again, you are telling lies. You can't prove either home was owned by
you and that the "big house" was built for or by you.



Awww, I'm supposed to be concerned about proving things to right-wing
trash like you?

Please.


You are seeking acceptance from some here in the group.


Nope. I don't give a **** what you or your enablers here think. Not a
whit. Nada. Zip. You, Herring, DK, Loogy, Ruptured Pontoon, Reggie, et
cetera, are nothing more than the dog**** one must step over when out
for a walk. There are fewer than a half dozen posters here I consider
decent human beings, but I doubt I'll ever meet more than one or two of
them in person because of distances.

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 12:19 PM

Building your own home
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yep.

Don't do it.

John H[_2_] December 30th 08 12:24 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:01:47 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III,
Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market
to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor.
Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of
advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity.
You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the
general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia
turned out to be way overextended financially from previous
projects, and could not line up the subs I wanted, and was
teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but
the builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction
bond) and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid
and the slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs
on salary and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over
budget. I had to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just
about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick
fireplaces, nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and
another 3,000 square feet finished in the basement. I looked it
up on Zillow early last year and it was valued at more than $1.5
million. The "crash" of the real estate market apparently hit
Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it up on Zillow
earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it
was the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it
- nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years
later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and
change. Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the
mid-1970s are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Again, you are telling lies. You can't prove either home was owned
by you and that the "big house" was built for or by you.


Awww, I'm supposed to be concerned about proving things to
right-wing trash like you?

Please.

You are seeking acceptance from some here in the group.

Nope. I don't give a **** what you or your enablers here think. Not a
whit. Nada. Zip. You, Herring, DK, Loogy, Ruptured Pontoon, Reggie,
et cetera, are nothing more than the dog**** one must step over when
out for a walk. There are fewer than a half dozen posters here I
consider decent human beings, but I doubt I'll ever meet more than
one or two of them in person because of distances.

Tom, Richard and Gene are who you seek approval and acceptance from
and who have all shunned you for your abhorrent behavior.


Wrong again, schitt-for-brains.


Harry, you know I am right.


You probably should have added Gunner to that last list.
--
** Good Day! **

John H

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 12:37 PM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Harry,
You did tell us your acted as your GC on your present house. Did
you do as much work on the NV house as your current house?

Reggie:

You aren't going to be contracting your own new house. Move on.

I am entertaining the idea.


You don't have the balls to do it. But if you did, it would be
entertaining...for us.


Harry I guess the GC'ing on your Northern Va. house didn't work out
well, and that is why you didn't GC your real home.



Your guess would be...wrong.


Well tell us about you great experience GC'ing your NVa home. Why
didn't you do your own home?

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 12:39 PM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......



It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general I
hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be way
overextended financially from previous projects, and could not line up
the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a settlement
of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the builder's
license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and
my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs
poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and bonus,
and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on the site
for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square feet
finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last year and
it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the real estate
market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when I looked it
up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40
feet tall and full triple wides.


Nice story, and pictures?

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 12:44 PM

Building your own home
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yep.

Don't do it.


I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 12:55 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yep.

Don't do it.


I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.


That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.




Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 12:59 PM

Building your own home
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?
Yep.

Don't do it.

I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.


That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.




Ok, you talked me out of it.


[email protected] December 30th 08 02:18 PM

Building your own home
 
On Dec 30, 7:55*am, Tom Francis
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."

wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. *Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?


Yep.


Don't do it.


I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.


That's Harry. *Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. *To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. *I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.


I wish he'd talk to me, I'd like to know his design parameters like
earthquake loads, wind loads, snow and drifting snow loads, etc. I
wonder which codes he used in his area, including building code,
plumbing code, electrical code, gas code, ADA compliance, fire safety
code etc. What was the tested soil bearing capacity at his site? When
he did his analysis, did he use LRFD or Ultimate Stress Design, (which
is limited stress design and has been changed to be PERMISSABLE stress
design, I hope he caught that!)

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 02:25 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:43 -0800 (PST), wrote:

I
wonder which codes he used in his area, including building code,


It's got to have four walls and a roof.

plumbing code,


It's gotta flush - somewhere.

electrical code,


AC or DC?

Or both?

gas code,


No beans.

ADA compliance,


No teeth.

Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 02:29 PM

Building your own home
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......



It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and
my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs
poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and
bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on
the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when
I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about
$1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40
feet tall and full triple wides.


Nice story, and pictures?



There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide
your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the
addresses of the houses.


Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 02:32 PM

Building your own home
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?
Yep.

Don't do it.

I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.


That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.





Reggie, of course, is full of schitt. I was successful with the house in
NoVa because I had to be. If I had let the original GC get away with his
shenanigans, it would have been a financial disaster. And all successful
at the time meant was that I was able to complete the project a little
over budget. It was a hellacious, time-consuming, aggravating project,
and I would not do it again, especially these days.

Jim December 30th 08 02:35 PM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least
40 feet tall and full triple wides.


Nice story, and pictures?



There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide
your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the
addresses of the houses.


Careful Reggie. This may be a trick. ;-)

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 02:36 PM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least
40 feet tall and full triple wides.


Nice story, and pictures?



There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide
your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the
addresses of the houses.


Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 02:40 PM

Building your own home
 
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the
general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned
out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and
could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad,
and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at
least 40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Nice story, and pictures?



There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you
provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to
supply the addresses of the houses.


Careful Reggie. This may be a trick. ;-)


Harry Krause is a reputable guy, what problem would i have giving him my
personal info?

Harry, post your phone number and I will call you to discuss details.

Jim December 30th 08 02:47 PM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?
Yep.

Don't do it.
I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.


That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.





Reggie, of course, is full of schitt. I was successful with the house in
NoVa because I had to be. If I had let the original GC get away with his
shenanigans, it would have been a financial disaster. And all successful
at the time meant was that I was able to complete the project a little
over budget. It was a hellacious, time-consuming, aggravating project,
and I would not do it again, especially these days.


How do you ever find time to work on all these projects and stay glued
to your computer screen. A mortal who has done all you say you did would
have to be at least 175 years old.

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 03:01 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:36:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?


Telephathy.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 03:01 PM

Building your own home
 
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?
Yep.

Don't do it.
I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.

That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.





Reggie, of course, is full of schitt. I was successful with the house
in NoVa because I had to be. If I had let the original GC get away
with his shenanigans, it would have been a financial disaster. And all
successful at the time meant was that I was able to complete the
project a little over budget. It was a hellacious, time-consuming,
aggravating project, and I would not do it again, especially these days.


How do you ever find time to work on all these projects and stay glued
to your computer screen. A mortal who has done all you say you did would
have to be at least 175 years old.


Whoever said Harry Krause is a mere mortal?

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 03:02 PM

Building your own home
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:36:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?


Telephathy.


oh, let me think very very hard. Harry Krause, did you get it?

Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 03:03 PM

Building your own home
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the
general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned
out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and
could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad,
and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at
least 40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Nice story, and pictures?



There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you
provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to
supply the addresses of the houses.


Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?


Quietly; not the way you would do it.


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 03:04 PM

Building your own home
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market
to build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor.
Has anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of
advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the
general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned
out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and
could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had
to be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every
morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of
the real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard,
because when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was
valued at about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it -
nice builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years
later for $160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change.
Not bad, and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s
are at least 40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Nice story, and pictures?


There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you
provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to
supply the addresses of the houses.


Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?


Quietly; not the way you would do it.


I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the
deal?

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 03:06 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:47:11 -0500, Jim wrote:

How do you ever find time to work on all these projects and stay glued
to your computer screen. A mortal who has done all you say you did would
have to be at least 175 years old.


Quantum reality.

Harry can be in two places at the same time.

Word has it in the theoritical physics world that Harry can actually
be in three places at the same time or three places at different
times.

Truly amazing.

Boater[_3_] December 30th 08 03:07 PM

Building your own home
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:36:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?


Telephathy.


oh, let me think very very hard. Harry Krause, did you get it?



Of course not. To transmit telepathic messages, you have to be able to
spell telepathy.

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 03:07 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:02:22 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:36:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?


Telephathy.


oh, let me think very very hard. Harry Krause, did you get it?


OH - did I say telepathy?

I meant telegraphy.

Sorry - my bad.

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 03:09 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:04:54 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the
deal?


Actually, my real legal name is unpronouncable by any mere Earthling.

However, you may call me Your Excellancy for short.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 30th 08 03:10 PM

Building your own home
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:04:54 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the
deal?


Actually, my real legal name is unpronouncable by any mere Earthling.

However, you may call me Your Excellancy for short.


How about SheetHead?

Tom Francis[_2_] December 30th 08 03:13 PM

Building your own home
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:10:41 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:04:54 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

I am always curious why you want to know my full legal name? What's the
deal?


Actually, my real legal name is unpronouncable by any mere Earthling.

However, you may call me Your Excellancy for short.


How about SheetHead?


Don't own a sail boat.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:26 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com