On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:34:43 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Oops. I forgot about Tom's weaponry.

Most folks do - I try to keep a low profile.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:09:46 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 23, 6:23 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:tdo0l453uk07hkghlv0h15psb00n71vef5@4ax .com...
chew on this for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture
And don't prove the weak conjecture.
That's for pansies.
I'll check in later and see what the results are.
Holy crap.
And people think me and my ions are boring.
Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.

In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.

In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.
Thus there are two states - where it is and where it is not.

If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless.

Solve that one - it's actually easy.

I can clarify it (or muddy it) with another "puzzle", the old
spaceship and flashlight one.

A spaceship is traveling away from the Earth at the speed of light.
At the exact moment that it is one light-year away from Earth, someone
opens up the back door and turns on a flashlight pointed back towards
earth.

Does that light ever reach Earth, or since it is eminating light at
the same speed backwards as it it moving forward, is the light
"frozen" in space? Bonus question: If it reaches Earth, how long does
it take?


Too easy. One light year. Assuming that the light does not get absorbed
or refracted by anything along the way and that the earth is in the same
position it was in when the light was shined and that Tom hasn't shot
it down with his lightbeam destroying weaponry.

Yes, but what was the question?

How many angesl can dance on the tip of a pin?

And I know the answer so you can't fool me.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:18:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
chew on this for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture

And don't prove the weak conjecture.

That's for pansies.

I'll check in later and see what the results are.

Holy crap.

And people think me and my ions are boring.

Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.

In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.

In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.
Thus there are two states - where it is and where it is not.

If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless.

Solve that one - it's actually easy.

It can if, for a instant, or point, it isn't an arrow.

True, but it is an arrow.

Changing states is cheating. :)

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:05:46 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

"Every prime number can be written as the difference between an even
integer greater than 2 and a prime number."

That's the weak conjecture.

BBZZZTTTTT!!! :)

How many angesl can dance on the tip of a pin?

And I know the answer so you can't fool me.

It's a trick question. The answer is, it depends. If they's doin' the
Tango, they needs to spread out a bit, resulting in a relatively low DADQ
(Dancing Angel Density Quotient). On the other hand, if they's doin' the
Bump 'n Grind, which is so popular these days with your younger angels, it's
all about a high DADQ on the tip of that pin.

On Dec 23, 9:58*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:53:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 23, 7:43*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:39:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 23, 6:04*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:23:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 22, 10:59*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
chew on this for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture

And don't prove the weak conjecture.

That's for pansies.

I'll check in later and see what the results are.

The guy had excellent taste in beer.

I'll be dropping you a line on Wed - we'll get together and I can hand
off that beer.

I wasn't poking on you about the beer... it was actually an attempt at
humor. *A poor one, I guess. *:-)

I'll be around Wed. until late afternoon, then back late Thursday
afternoon. *It's supposed to be nice Friday and Saturday... you got
that new boat with you?

No- but the Ranger is still parked in the driveway.

Wanna go out?

The pontoon is sitting in the water, and it needs to be run a bit. *It
won't be at Ranger speeds, but we can take it, unless you just want to
splash yours. *Ping my email, maybe we can figure out a time.

I will. *We've got a ton of things going on here - one thing after
another, but I should be free Friday through the rest of the time
we're down here. Hell, we can do both - take yours one day and mine
the next or something like that.

You still need help with that Torina rear end instillation? *Be glad
to help out.

Sounds good. I'll look for your email and reply with some contact
info.

Thanks for the offer on the help, but it's going slower than I
expected. The rear end is ready, but now I'm completely cleaning the
undercarriage of the car from the front of the rear spring mounts to
the rear bumper, priming and then painting it chassis black. I
figured I should do it while the rear end is out, and am finding out
in this kind of thing there's no good stopping place. Now I'm looking
for a place to acid dip my gas tank, then I need to pull some dents
out of it. And the beat goes on... :-)

On Dec 23, 10:09*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:29:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 23, 8:20*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

....
On Dec 23, 6:23 am, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:tdo0l453uk07hkghlv0h15psb00n71vef5@4a x.com...
chew on this for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture

And don't prove the weak conjecture.

That's for pansies.

I'll check in later and see what the results are.

Holy crap.

And people think me and my ions are boring.

Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.

In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.

In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not..
Thus there are two states - where it is and where it is not.

If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless.

Solve that one - it's actually easy.

I can clarify it (or muddy it) with another "puzzle", the old
spaceship and flashlight one.

A spaceship is traveling away from the Earth at the speed of light.
At the exact moment that it is one light-year away from Earth, someone
opens up the back door and turns on a flashlight pointed back towards
earth.

Does that light ever reach Earth, or since it is eminating light at
the same speed backwards as it it moving forward, is the light
"frozen" in space? *Bonus question: If it reaches Earth, how long does
it take?

One.

(lightyear)

give or take.

Yup. *Depends on how new the batteries are. *Kidding!!!

But it seems to me that this disproves Tom's statement:

"If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless. "

Motion, light emeging from the flashlight, is occuring at a point in
time. *But I'm no expert.

Here's another way to look at it - if you are already here, want to go
there, you can't get there because it's an instant of time - you can't
move forward and you are where you already are.

And no matter where you go, there you are.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Here's another way to look at it - if you are already here, want to go
there, you can't get there because it's an instant of time - you can't
move forward and you are where you already are.


Not me. I have a TomTom.

Eisboch

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:37:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Sounds good. I'll look for your email and reply with some contact
info.

As soon as things clear up WED afternoon, I'll drop you a line. I
think we've got something going on Thurs, but the rest of the time I'm
free.

Thanks for the offer on the help, but it's going slower than I
expected. The rear end is ready, but now I'm completely cleaning the
undercarriage of the car from the front of the rear spring mounts to
the rear bumper, priming and then painting it chassis black. I
figured I should do it while the rear end is out, and am finding out
in this kind of thing there's no good stopping place. Now I'm looking
for a place to acid dip my gas tank, then I need to pull some dents
out of it. And the beat goes on... :-)

Hey - I'm available if you need some help with something. I've done
restorations before - at some point you have to just get the major
stuff done and worry about the little stuff later.

I'll be in touch.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:30:35 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:59:17 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

chew on this for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture

And don't prove the weak conjecture.

That's for pansies.

I'll check in later and see what the results are.

Tom, while you were away, Forte released 5.0 and I thought you might
want to claim your prepaid package!

New stuff:
http://www.forteinc.com/release/notes.php?id=50

Download:
ftp://ftp3.forteinc.com/pub/agent/en...nu500-1171.exe

PS
Anybody already using Version 5.0 might want to insure they are
running Build 1171.

Thanks - I appreciate it.