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chew on this for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture
And don't prove the weak conjecture.
That's for pansies.
I'll check in later and see what the results are.
Holy crap.
And people think me and my ions are boring.
Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.


In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.


In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. *For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.

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Jim wrote:
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On Dec 23, 6:23 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:tdo0l453uk07hkghlv0h15psb00n71vef5@4ax .com...
chew on this for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture
And don't prove the weak conjecture.
That's for pansies.
I'll check in later and see what the results are.
Holy crap.
And people think me and my ions are boring.
Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.

In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.

In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.
Thus there are two states - where it is and where it is not.

If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless.

Solve that one - it's actually easy.


I can clarify it (or muddy it) with another "puzzle", the old
spaceship and flashlight one.

A spaceship is traveling away from the Earth at the speed of light.
At the exact moment that it is one light-year away from Earth, someone
opens up the back door and turns on a flashlight pointed back towards
earth.

Does that light ever reach Earth, or since it is eminating light at
the same speed backwards as it it moving forward, is the light
"frozen" in space? Bonus question: If it reaches Earth, how long does
it take?


Too easy. One light year. Assuming that the light does not get absorbed
or refracted by anything along the way and that the earth is in the same
position it was in when the light was shined and that Tom hasn't shot
it down with his lightbeam destroying weaponry.


Yes, but what was the question?

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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:31:39 -0500, Jim wrote:

Too easy. One light year. Assuming that the light does not get absorbed
or refracted by anything along the way and that the earth is in the same
position it was in when the light was shined and that Tom hasn't shot
it down with his lightbeam destroying weaponry.


Dammit - did you have to tell everybody?

Jeese um pete.
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 23, 6:23*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:tdo0l453uk07hkghlv0h15psb00n71vef5@4a x.com...
chew on this for a while.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture


And don't prove the weak conjecture.


That's for pansies.


I'll check in later and see what the results are.


Holy crap.


And people think me and my ions are boring.


Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.

In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.

In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. *For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.
Thus there are two states - where it is and where it is not.

If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless.

Solve that one - it's actually easy.


I can clarify it (or muddy it) with another "puzzle", the old
spaceship and flashlight one.

A spaceship is traveling away from the Earth at the speed of light.
At the exact moment that it is one light-year away from Earth, someone
opens up the back door and turns on a flashlight pointed back towards
earth.

Does that light ever reach Earth, or since it is eminating light at
the same speed backwards as it it moving forward, is the light
"frozen" in space? Bonus question: If it reaches Earth, how long does
it take?


Pfffhhht....one light year.

BORING... :)
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On Dec 23, 9:59*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 23, 6:23*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:tdo0l453uk07hkghlv0h15psb00n71vef5@4a x.com...
chew on this for a while.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture


And don't prove the weak conjecture.


That's for pansies.


I'll check in later and see what the results are.


Holy crap.


And people think me and my ions are boring.


Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.


In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.


In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. *For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.



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Richard Casady wrote:
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A spaceship is traveling away from the Earth at the speed of light.


Can't happen. As you approach C the mass increases, becoming infinite
at the speed of light. See any good explanation of Special Relativity
for non physics majors. Einstein wrote one, maybe he needed the dough.

How come, although Einstein was a good writer, no English majors seem
to have ever understood special relativity? Or even Newton. I remember
reading in the Denver paper that 4wd vehicles are twice as likely to
end up in the ditch as 2wd machines. Seems English majors, and many
others, think 4wd makes them immune to the laws of Physics they never
studied.

All wheel drive has legitimate uses: hauling a boat up a steep and
slippery launching ramp is one, snow plowing is another. English
majors think it is for making better time on ice and snow. Four wheel
drive is for not shoveling the driveway and still making it to the
plowed street.

Casady



I heard it was Republicans who didn't believe in science, not English
majors. Or maybe it was the Republicans who denied science, as with
Sarah Palin believing that "The Flintstones" was based upon "actual real
history, when men and dinosaurs walked the earth together shortly after
creation 6000 years ago," or whatever bullschitt like that she believes.

Creationism=Cretinism

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

A spaceship is traveling away from the Earth at the speed of light.


Can't happen. As you approach C the mass increases, becoming infinite
at the speed of light. See any good explanation of Special Relativity
for non physics majors. Einstein wrote one, maybe he needed the dough.

How come, although Einstein was a good writer, no English majors seem
to have ever understood special relativity? Or even Newton. I remember
reading in the Denver paper that 4wd vehicles are twice as likely to
end up in the ditch as 2wd machines. Seems English majors, and many
others, think 4wd makes them immune to the laws of Physics they never
studied.

All wheel drive has legitimate uses: hauling a boat up a steep and
slippery launching ramp is one, snow plowing is another. English
majors think it is for making better time on ice and snow. Four wheel
drive is for not shoveling the driveway and still making it to the
plowed street.

Casady



Yup.. When I get out on bad roads I stay in 2 wheel until I need it..
Basically, my theory is 4x4 is for getting out of the ditch, not getting
in I always laugh at these idiots who think just because the 4x4 can
get them going faster, it can also stop them faster...
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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chew on this for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture

And don't prove the weak conjecture.

That's for pansies.

I'll check in later and see what the results are.


Holy crap.

And people think me and my ions are boring.


Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.

In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.

In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.
Thus there are two states - where it is and where it is not.

If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless.

Solve that one - it's actually easy.



It can if, for a instant, or point, it isn't an arrow.

Eisboch


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Eisboch wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:45:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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chew on this for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_conjecture

And don't prove the weak conjecture.

That's for pansies.

I'll check in later and see what the results are.
Holy crap.

And people think me and my ions are boring.

Ok - just because I'm a nice guy - here's an easy one.

In the Fletcher's Paradox, the Greek philosopher Zeno (who was the
inspiration for the Socratic Method) stated that for motion to be
occurring, an object must change the position which it occupies.

In keeping with the name of the paradox, let's use an arrow as the
example. For motion to occur, the arrow must move to where it is not.
Thus there are two states - where it is and where it is not.

If we think of time as points (or instants) the arrow cannot move to
where it is not and it cannot move to where it is because it is
already there. Thus, motion cannot occur at any point (or instant) of
time - everything should remain motionless.

Solve that one - it's actually easy.



It can if, for a instant, or point, it isn't an arrow.

Eisboch


But time marches on, doesn't it?


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