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"Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:01:45 -0500, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:47 -0500, Boater wrote: Richard Casady wrote: I saw the name and put him in the bin for that atrocity alone. Have I missed anything? Casady Not a thing. I just can't understand why you wish to start the day that way. Reggie has always been very gentlemanly towards you, even when he's caught you in some of your more blatant 'misstatements'. He doesn't call you names, and treats you with appropriate respect. He's also quite knowledgeable about boats and photography. He's even given you several valuable tips with regards to both. In fact, you may want to change your signature to be more in line with how you should feel. -- We say, "THANK YOU, REGGIE" Salmonbait I cannot recall one useful tip from Reggie about anything. He did offer up one in the last week about a remote photo shutter device, but when I asked a few photographers who use and are still using the device, it turned out Reggie's advice was wrong on that, too. Boating tips from Reggie? Surely you jest. I say, ESAD, Reggie. The sooner the better. Have a nice day, John. Harry, I am trying to get you to change your image here. You complain that everyone is picking on you, or say 'whatever' when offered decent advice. (BTW, when my younger daughter was an adolescent, 'whatever' was her favorite word, especially when she knew she was wrong!) :) Now, it's very hard to get people to treat you the way you desire when you keep telling people to die, kill themselves, drown, or any of your other suggested activities. I would like to believe you actually asked a few photographers about Reggie's advice, but I doubt it. I'm not saying you're lying, only that I have doubts. Try to be nicer. -- Salmonbait |
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"Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:01:45 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:47 -0500, Boater wrote: Richard Casady wrote: I saw the name and put him in the bin for that atrocity alone. Have I missed anything? Casady Not a thing. I just can't understand why you wish to start the day that way. Reggie has always been very gentlemanly towards you, even when he's caught you in some of your more blatant 'misstatements'. He doesn't call you names, and treats you with appropriate respect. He's also quite knowledgeable about boats and photography. He's even given you several valuable tips with regards to both. In fact, you may want to change your signature to be more in line with how you should feel. -- We say, "THANK YOU, REGGIE" Salmonbait I cannot recall one useful tip from Reggie about anything. He did offer up one in the last week about a remote photo shutter device, but when I asked a few photographers who use and are still using the device, it turned out Reggie's advice was wrong on that, too. Boating tips from Reggie? Surely you jest. I say, ESAD, Reggie. The sooner the better. Have a nice day, John. Harry, I am trying to get you to change your image here. You complain that everyone is picking on you, or say 'whatever' when offered decent advice. (BTW, when my younger daughter was an adolescent, 'whatever' was her favorite word, especially when she knew she was wrong!) :) Now, it's very hard to get people to treat you the way you desire when you keep telling people to die, kill themselves, drown, or any of your other suggested activities. I would like to believe you actually asked a few photographers about Reggie's advice, but I doubt it. I'm not saying you're lying, only that I have doubts. Try to be nicer. -- Salmonbait John: I don't care what you believe or don't believe. But in case you are interested, there is an ongoing discussion of the device in question on one of the camera discussion boards, I sent out a few emails and got back a few responses, in addition to what was posted on the board. |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:14:35 -0500, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:47 -0500, Boater wrote: Richard Casady wrote: I saw the name and put him in the bin for that atrocity alone. Have I missed anything? Casady Not a thing. I just can't understand why you wish to start the day that way. Reggie has always been very gentlemanly towards you, even when he's caught you in some of your more blatant 'misstatements'. He doesn't call you names, and treats you with appropriate respect. He's also quite knowledgeable about boats and photography. He's even given you several valuable tips with regards to both. In fact, you may want to change your signature to be more in line with how you should feel. -- We say, "THANK YOU, REGGIE" Salmonbait I cannot recall one useful tip from Reggie about anything. He did offer up one in the last week about a remote photo shutter device, but when I asked a few photographers who use and are still using the device, it turned out Reggie's advice was wrong on that, too. Boating tips from Reggie? Surely you jest. I say, ESAD, Reggie. The sooner the better. Have a nice day, John. Well it does look like you took my advice on Windows Vista and are going to switch over to Mac. I am glad I could be of assistance. There's no connection. I have no problems with VISTA, I simply like the MAC hardware and apps better than I like Windows apps. As far as computers go, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. Harry, you could have said something like, "I appreciate your knowledge of computers. Thanks!" Then you'd not have to resort to name-calling and insults. It's easy! -- Salmonbait |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:55:59 -0500, Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:47 -0500, Boater wrote: Richard Casady wrote: I saw the name and put him in the bin for that atrocity alone. Have I missed anything? Casady Not a thing. I just can't understand why you wish to start the day that way. Reggie has always been very gentlemanly towards you, even when he's caught you in some of your more blatant 'misstatements'. He doesn't call you names, and treats you with appropriate respect. He's also quite knowledgeable about boats and photography. He's even given you several valuable tips with regards to both. In fact, you may want to change your signature to be more in line with how you should feel. -- We say, "THANK YOU, REGGIE" Salmonbait I cannot recall one useful tip from Reggie about anything. He did offer up one in the last week about a remote photo shutter device, but when I asked a few photographers who use and are still using the device, it turned out Reggie's advice was wrong on that, too. Boating tips from Reggie? Surely you jest. I say, ESAD, Reggie. The sooner the better. Have a nice day, John. Well it does look like you took my advice on Windows Vista and are going to switch over to Mac. I am glad I could be of assistance. There's no connection. I have no problems with VISTA, I simply like the MAC hardware and apps better than I like Windows apps. As far as computers go, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. Stick to brick laying. Not my trade. Never was. Nice! -- Salmonbait |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:19:50 -0500, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:47 -0500, Boater wrote: Richard Casady wrote: I saw the name and put him in the bin for that atrocity alone. Have I missed anything? Casady Not a thing. I just can't understand why you wish to start the day that way. Reggie has always been very gentlemanly towards you, even when he's caught you in some of your more blatant 'misstatements'. He doesn't call you names, and treats you with appropriate respect. He's also quite knowledgeable about boats and photography. He's even given you several valuable tips with regards to both. In fact, you may want to change your signature to be more in line with how you should feel. -- We say, "THANK YOU, REGGIE" Salmonbait I cannot recall one useful tip from Reggie about anything. He did offer up one in the last week about a remote photo shutter device, but when I asked a few photographers who use and are still using the device, it turned out Reggie's advice was wrong on that, too. Boating tips from Reggie? Surely you jest. I say, ESAD, Reggie. The sooner the better. Have a nice day, John. By the way, who or what is ESAD? On the odd chance you really don't know, it means: Eat **** And Die. Got it? Harry, I am curious, why all of this anger, and hate? Is it because I am Jewish, but don't maintain a Kosher house? That seemed to be very important to you. A. There's no evidence that you are Jewish, not that it matters to me. Your saying so means nothing. The only attribute of yours I know exists for certain is your cowardice, and that is boundless. If you were a Jew, it would only be an accident of birth, and you would only be a cultural Jew because you were posting here last night and you posting here today. Someone genuinely Jewish would be observing the Sabbath, Also, and perhaps this is reverse anti-Semitism, but all of the Jews I know, and I know a lot of Jews, are very intelligent and accomplished. You don't fit into either category. B. I wouldn't care if you kept or didn't keep a Kosher house. C. You have no idea of what an "Observant Jew" is, and your soft-pedaling of the concept would just make you look like a bigger fool than you are *to* any Observant Jew. D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. Harry, what is cowardly about Reggie? -- Salmonbait |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:55:30 -0500, Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:47 -0500, Boater wrote: Richard Casady wrote: I saw the name and put him in the bin for that atrocity alone. Have I missed anything? Casady Not a thing. I just can't understand why you wish to start the day that way. Reggie has always been very gentlemanly towards you, even when he's caught you in some of your more blatant 'misstatements'. He doesn't call you names, and treats you with appropriate respect. He's also quite knowledgeable about boats and photography. He's even given you several valuable tips with regards to both. In fact, you may want to change your signature to be more in line with how you should feel. -- We say, "THANK YOU, REGGIE" Salmonbait I cannot recall one useful tip from Reggie about anything. He did offer up one in the last week about a remote photo shutter device, but when I asked a few photographers who use and are still using the device, it turned out Reggie's advice was wrong on that, too. Boating tips from Reggie? Surely you jest. I say, ESAD, Reggie. The sooner the better. Have a nice day, John. By the way, who or what is ESAD? It is the sign of a man who is afraid to state publicly how he feels about you. He needs to use childish Internet Messaging vocabulary. The etymology of ESAD as an expression has nothing to do with Internet Messaging, and in fact predates it by many decades. You cannot accuse me of being afraid to state publicly how I feel about any number of posters here. Not only that, but unlike some, I have no fear about using my real name. Harry, you are not displaying an attitude which would invite friendship. BTW, what do you find cowardly about using an alias, boater, HK, a boater, etc. -- Salmonbait |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:55:30 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:47 -0500, Boater wrote: Richard Casady wrote: I saw the name and put him in the bin for that atrocity alone. Have I missed anything? Casady Not a thing. I just can't understand why you wish to start the day that way. Reggie has always been very gentlemanly towards you, even when he's caught you in some of your more blatant 'misstatements'. He doesn't call you names, and treats you with appropriate respect. He's also quite knowledgeable about boats and photography. He's even given you several valuable tips with regards to both. In fact, you may want to change your signature to be more in line with how you should feel. -- We say, "THANK YOU, REGGIE" Salmonbait I cannot recall one useful tip from Reggie about anything. He did offer up one in the last week about a remote photo shutter device, but when I asked a few photographers who use and are still using the device, it turned out Reggie's advice was wrong on that, too. Boating tips from Reggie? Surely you jest. I say, ESAD, Reggie. The sooner the better. Have a nice day, John. By the way, who or what is ESAD? It is the sign of a man who is afraid to state publicly how he feels about you. He needs to use childish Internet Messaging vocabulary. The etymology of ESAD as an expression has nothing to do with Internet Messaging, and in fact predates it by many decades. You cannot accuse me of being afraid to state publicly how I feel about any number of posters here. Not only that, but unlike some, I have no fear about using my real name. Harry, you are not displaying an attitude which would invite friendship. BTW, what do you find cowardly about using an alias, boater, HK, a boater, etc. -- Salmonbait John. I think you are very close to a breakthrough with Harry. I think he wants to make friends but isn't quite sure how to go about it. Also you could try to convince him that using his real name all over the world wide web is not the way to display manliness. In fact it is kind of stupid. |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:03:31 -0500, BAR wrote: The only consideration is if you are a serious gamer or musicer. Gaming keeps me making my own. And I like big honking cases for cooling and easy component swaps, though recent chips run cooler. I could probably fit a dozen laptaps in my main PC case. Not too good for a boat though. When I get the boat I'll be looking at laptops. Don't know much about Macs. When I worked IT at McDonalds marketing they were using Macs, but they got pushed off them. It was a pain converting data back and forth. People get attached to the tech they're using, much like they get attached to car brands. Don't know how many times I heard crap from Mac fans about how MS "stole" stuff from the Mac OS. Recycle bin for one. Think MACs were a better bet for college kids when the OS was more reliable than Win9x. But after XP came along that edge became less. Still got one of my girls a Mac laptop for university when she did an overseas program, because that's what she wanted and she said the school folks recommended it. No sense fighting hall there. A company I worked for in the early '90s had Macs for desktops because you could due native 68000 development on them. It was nice to be able to write a document and develop code for 680X0 processors on the same system. Since Mac went to the Intel side there really is no advantage. in either OS. Both MacOS (UNIX) and Windows are now 20+ years old and the OSes are mature enough to not be crashing all of the time. The real issue between Mac and PCs is cost of hardware and cost software. With a small organization you may be able to justify the Macs but with a large organizaitons you can get much better deals with PCs. |
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Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. |
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A. There's no evidence that you are Jewish, not that it matters to me. Your saying so means nothing. The only attribute of yours I know exists for certain is your cowardice, and that is boundless. If you were a Jew, it would only be an accident of birth, and you would only be a cultural Jew because you were posting here last night and you posting here today. Someone genuinely Jewish would be observing the Sabbath, I know, if I was real Jew, I and the majority of other Jews who drive to temple would walk. We would never cook on the Sabbath, we would never turn on a light switch. Those of us who live in a high rise, would always walk up the stairs, because we can not push an elevator button. We are very lucky to have you here to tell us who are real Jews and who isn't. Also, and perhaps this is reverse anti-Semitism, but all of the Jews I know, and I know a lot of Jews, are very intelligent and accomplished. You don't fit into either category. I know I am not a intellectual giant as you are, I graduated from Columbia, you went to that renowned liberal arts college, the Univ. of Kansas. It is nice to see you don't believe in stereotypes, I am sure we will hear other words of wisdom from you as Black people sure can dance, but they can't balance of a checkbook, Asians are great in math and science, but don't let them drive etc. D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. For someone who enjoys telling Christians and Jews they don't live up to your standard of their religion, that sounds very cowardly of you. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, Why does this remind me of that old expression once would hear from racists "some of my best friends are black", just before they spew some racist comment. Next you will be defining what it means to be black and telling blacks they are not black enough, because they don't meet your standard of blackness. |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. And that bothers you why? |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:11:20 -0500, Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. I hope you'll answer my question about this in the other thread, or here. Who is proclaiming their religious beliefs the loudest? And, does your behavior indicate you 'walk the walk' of your religious beliefs? -- Salmonbait |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. What I thought was funny, was I made some comment in jest about all of the commercial Christmas music you hear and that there are so few Chanukah songs. That is when Harry decided it was time to point out that I didn't appreciate my Jewish prayers well enough. Then my joke about Jews eating at Chinese restaurants on Christmas was another reason for him to chastise me for not being Jewish enough. Real Jews would never eat out, because restaurants don't not keep a Kosher kitchen. At no time was I proclaim my religion, I was making a tongue in cheek joke. Have you noticed the person who sets the standards for all Christians and Jews is too much of a coward to mention his religious beliefs. |
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BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Especially if they make a side joke about Christmas music or Chinese restaurants. ;) So why are you such a coward about your religious beliefs? |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Doesn't everyone have to be a self-proclaimed believer of their respective faith? Bar mitzvahs, Catholic confirmation, protestant baptism. Part of Catholic Mass is the Profession of Faith. You recite it willingly. If you don't want to don't go to Mass. Your problem is that you are judgmental of others in religious and non-religious areas of their lives. You have a rigid view of the world and if someone does fall into to your rigid framework of behavior then your berate and ridicule them. We are curious why you do this and what event in your life caused you behave like this? |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? |
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On Dec 20, 11:06*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 9:52 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message .... On Dec 20, 8:44 am, Jim wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... On the odd chance you really don't know, it means: Eat **** And Die. Got it? Lovely mood there this morning, Harry. Eisboch I'm beginning to feel a tad sorry for the poor guy. He doesn't seem to be a very happy fellow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, he doesn't have any friends, he's so insecure about what he does have that he has to make up wild lies about his boat, his house, his land, his vehicles, even his wife. The only person here that buys into all of those lies is Don. That in a nutshell is why he's such an angry fat old fart. ************************************************* liar- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, so you DON'T buy into all of Harry's lies? Interesting..... Oh, and that low life vulgar idiot slammer will be proud of you, but too bad you can't think of anything original, but I guess that's why you have your lover/master/clone Harry. ************************************************** ********* You really need to get help for your 'male lovers' fetish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't have a male lovers fetish. I do, however find it interesting in a sick sort of way how you follow Harry like a little puppy, and have taken to acting just like him! |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. |
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Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? If you don't follow these teachings how can you expect others to follow them. |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that a true believer would follow them. That is all. |
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On Dec 21, 9:51*am, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: *Lk. 6.27-36 38 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 * * And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 * * And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 * * Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 * * But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 * * that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 * * For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 * * And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 * * Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 * * * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 * * * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that a true believer would follow them. That is all.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Loogy only believes in you, Harry. His life consists of following you around, waiting till you fart...then finding some way to call you a liar for farting... What an obsessed idiot. |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:51:39 -0500, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that a true believer would follow them. That is all. You don't know my religious beliefs. You know only that I respect the beliefs of others. Are you quoting lines with which you disagree? -- Salmonbait |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. If you want a good desk chair, buy one. |
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Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. Yes, we get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? Yes. There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about. If you want a good desk chair, buy one. We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we aren't lucky enough to be kept men. |
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On Dec 21, 10:30*am, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. *He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. *They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. *Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. *One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. *Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. If you want a good desk chair, buy one.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then leave. Please. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. Yes, we get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? Yes. There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about. If you want a good desk chair, buy one. We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we aren't lucky enough to be kept men. Indeed, I don't know why any smart, educated sensible woman would want to keep something like you around. |
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On Dec 21, 10:00*am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 9:51*am, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: *Lk. 6.27-36 38 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 * * And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 * * And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 * * Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 * * But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 * * that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 * * For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 * * And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 * * Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 * * * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 * * * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that a true believer would follow them. That is all.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Loogy only believes in you, Harry. His life consists of following you around, waiting till you fart...then finding some way to call you a liar for farting... What an obsessed idiot.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Your infatuation with me is getting kind of scary. I realize that you look up to me because I'm more than you can ever aspire to be, but man, give it a break. |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. Yes, we get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? Yes. There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about. If you want a good desk chair, buy one. We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we aren't lucky enough to be kept men. Looks like Uncle Sam keeps the retired Lt Colonel quite well. |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:30:25 -0500, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. If you want a good desk chair, buy one. Yes, you were complaining to Tim about the way you were treated. You complain that all these other people call you names and insult you, and therefore you should return the behavior. If you didn't care, why would you be so desirous of returning the behavior? If you 'don't give a tinker's damn about the rest', then why try so hard to insult, degrade, call names, or 'best' the 'rest'. I'd never spend $850 on a desk chair. I'd rather put the money in the bank for my grandkids' college expenses. If I had one, I'd surely not brag about it. -- Salmonbait |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. Yes, we get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? Yes. There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about. If you want a good desk chair, buy one. We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we aren't lucky enough to be kept men. Indeed, I don't know why any smart, educated sensible woman would want to keep something like you around. Nineteen years ago she, now my wife, saw in me the potential to provide a good life for her and the children we may have. So far so good. |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:30:25 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait You really don't get it. You actually think I care about the behavior in this group? There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest. If you want a good desk chair, buy one. Yes, you were complaining to Tim about the way you were treated. You complain that all these other people call you names and insult you, and therefore you should return the behavior. If you didn't care, why would you be so desirous of returning the behavior? If you 'don't give a tinker's damn about the rest', then why try so hard to insult, degrade, call names, or 'best' the 'rest'. I'd never spend $850 on a desk chair. I'd rather put the money in the bank for my grandkids' college expenses. If I had one, I'd surely not brag about it. -- Salmonbait 1. Your interpretation of my comments to Tim is incorrect. 2. You might consider working on others here. My position is perfectly clear and will not change no matter how much hectoring you attempt. 3. It's tinker's dam, John. Not damn. 4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat, and a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more grandchildren than I have? Talk about hypocrisy. |
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