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Tom Francis - SWSports December 16th 08 09:15 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)

HK December 16th 08 09:20 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)



This is instead of what you were buying the other day?

Don White December 16th 08 09:48 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?



HK December 16th 08 09:54 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?




No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.

RG December 16th 08 10:02 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


Cool. My D300 arrives from B&H tomorrow. Woot!




Don White December 16th 08 10:02 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs
and the tiny compact camera CMOS?



No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.


Did you guys see this site?
It compares the different image sensor sizes with a 35 mm frame. Sure makes
the G10 sensor at 1/1.7" seem tiny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SensorSizes.png



Boater[_3_] December 16th 08 10:14 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)



What are a 300 and 330?


[email protected] December 16th 08 10:21 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Dec 16, 4:15*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... * *:)


I hope you don't hate it.. I have found the smaller the camera, the
harder it is to hold.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 16th 08 10:31 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:48:38 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.


I'm not really - the Olympus camera according to those in the know is
totally based on this camera.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?


We have to get away from 4/3rds being a "compromise" format. It's a
different format designed to be completely digital from soup to nuts.

Having said that, yes - I believe its almost ideally suited for this
type of camera and in fact, I think Olympus was waiting for a change
in processing technology from the git-go with 4/3rds to do exactly
this.

We'll see what happens.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 16th 08 10:33 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?


No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.


Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 16th 08 10:34 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:02:05 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


Cool. My D300 arrives from B&H tomorrow. Woot!


Gud on 'yer mate.

Dueling formats. :)

John[_6_] December 16th 08 10:34 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:14:01 -0500, Boater wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)



What are a 300 and 330?


Olympus, maybe?
--
John

John[_6_] December 16th 08 10:46 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:33:15 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)

Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?


No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.


Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.


Check your email.
--
John

Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 12:24 AM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?

No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.


Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.



Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire
some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual
photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the
last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next
time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if
any, Olympus cameras among the pros.

For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have
market share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the
Olympus market share is? No one out there is competing in a serious
fashion with Nikon and Canon.

I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated,
they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean
market share.

I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and
Canons are good enough for me.

Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 12:29 AM

Micro-four thirds...
 
John wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:33:15 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?
No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.

Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.


Check your email.



A secret message from Herring to SW Tom...wowser.

Don White December 17th 08 04:35 AM

Micro-four thirds...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized
SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS?
No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.


Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.



Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire
some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual
photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the
last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next
time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if
any, Olympus cameras among the pros.

For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market
share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market
share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon
and Canon.

I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated,
they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market
share.

I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and
Canons are good enough for me.


When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.



Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 04:49 AM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Don White wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized
SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS?
No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.
Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.


Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire
some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual
photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the
last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next
time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if
any, Olympus cameras among the pros.

For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market
share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market
share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon
and Canon.

I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated,
they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market
share.

I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and
Canons are good enough for me.


When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.



That's true pretty much everywhere, except among the photogs shooting
larger format...2-1/4, 6x7, 4x5. Despite what you see on TV movies, most
fashion photography is NOT shot on 35mm film or digital cameras.

The national geo still photographers use nikons and canons almost
exclusively. The gal photog I use for west coast photography works
freelance for geo these days, and her travel cameras are Nikons. She
shoots Hasselblads for the "Good Stuff" indoors, and has an assistant to
wrestle with the gear and lights.

Once again, I am not knocking Olympus cameras. They just don't have much
market share in the top pro segment.

It's funny, but when I was commissioning a lot of architectural
photography, the very best photographers used 4x5 film almost
exclusively and 2-1/4 when space was limited or they had to move fast.
Hardly anyone used 35mm, and I believe 35mm film has significantly
higher megapixels, as it were, than the best of today's more common
digital SLRs.

Digital is still catching up with film.

CalifBill December 17th 08 05:37 AM

Micro-four thirds...
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)


I may have to buy a new camera. Wife looked for the Pentax today to photo a
drake and hen mallard using the swimming pool. She can't find the camera.
Will be my fault.



Tom Francis - SWSports December 17th 08 11:07 AM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.


That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.

Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 11:42 AM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.


That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.



Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even
come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?





Tom Francis - SWSports December 17th 08 12:01 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.


That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.


Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even
come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?


Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?

HK December 17th 08 12:03 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Don White wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized
SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS?
No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.
Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.


Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire
some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual
photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the
last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next
time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if
any, Olympus cameras among the pros.

For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market
share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market
share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon
and Canon.

I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated,
they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market
share.

I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and
Canons are good enough for me.


When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.





Don...you might want to take a look at the Panasonic LX3, too.
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Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 12:19 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.

Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even
come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?


Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?



What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it
was you were trying to say there?




BAR[_3_] December 17th 08 12:54 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo
store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals
use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands
even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?


Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?



What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it
was you were trying to say there?


You are an armchair expert. Either get out of the chair and prove your
capabilities or STFU.



John[_6_] December 17th 08 12:58 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized
SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS?
No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.

Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.



Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire
some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual
photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the
last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next
time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if
any, Olympus cameras among the pros.

For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market
share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market
share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon
and Canon.

I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated,
they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market
share.

I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and
Canons are good enough for me.


When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.


All the more reason to get that Canon that Harry's wife uses. She's taken
some excellent shots with that camera. You could probably find a
refurbished one for $100.
--
John

Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 01:00 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real
photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local
professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands
even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?

Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?



What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever
it was you were trying to say there?


You are an armchair expert. Either get out of the chair and prove your
capabilities or STFU.




My "capabilities" have nothing whatsoever to do with Tom's claim. Is
logical argument something you righties cannot fathom?

Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 01:01 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
John wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized
SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS?
No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.
Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.

Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire
some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual
photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the
last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next
time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if
any, Olympus cameras among the pros.

For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market
share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market
share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon
and Canon.

I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated,
they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market
share.

I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and
Canons are good enough for me.

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store'
in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon
or Canon cameras.


All the more reason to get that Canon that Harry's wife uses. She's taken
some excellent shots with that camera. You could probably find a
refurbished one for $100.




Herring's second post of the day...and he's still sniffing up my butt.


Jim December 17th 08 02:09 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo
store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals
use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands
even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?


Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?



What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it
was you were trying to say there?



We'd like to see if you are a decent photog. or just a poser.

[email protected] December 17th 08 02:09 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Dec 16, 4:15*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... * *:)


There's a great article on Olympus and Panasonics micro four thirds in
Modern Photography. Here's some stuff:
http://www.popphoto.com/photonews/54...nic-page2.html


Jim December 17th 08 02:11 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real
photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local
professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade
SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other
brands even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?

Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?


What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever
it was you were trying to say there?


You are an armchair expert. Either get out of the chair and prove your
capabilities or STFU.




My "capabilities" have nothing whatsoever to do with Tom's claim. Is
logical argument something you righties cannot fathom?


Do you have capabilities or are you just a poser?

[email protected] December 17th 08 02:12 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Dec 16, 5:33*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:sd6gk4tcjg3nrvcdo1su9vash4rvb91i3f@4ax .com...
Well, I gone and dun it...


http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3


Should be here on Friday.


Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.


This could be a problem... * *:)


Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.


Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and
the tiny compact camera CMOS?


No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to
suspect the newly revised version will, either.


Where do you come up with this crap? *Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm waiting for digital TLR's. Medium format, baby!!

Jim December 17th 08 02:12 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports"
wrote in message ...
Well, I gone and dun it...

http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3

Should be here on Friday.

Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out.

This could be a problem... :)
Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them.

Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full
sized SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS?
No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no
reason to suspect the newly revised version will, either.
Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors
photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or
Olympus E-1s and now E-3s.

Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good
at.

Moron.

Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I
hire some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The
architectual photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't
even recall the last time I saw a working commercial photographer
using an Olympus. Next time you see a presidential "photo op," see
if there are very many, if any, Olympus cameras among the pros.

For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have
market share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the
Olympus market share is? No one out there is competing in a serious
fashion with Nikon and Canon.

I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously
stated, they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on,
I mean market share.

I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons
and Canons are good enough for me.
When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo
store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use
either Nikon or Canon cameras.


All the more reason to get that Canon that Harry's wife uses. She's taken
some excellent shots with that camera. You could probably find a
refurbished one for $100.




Herring's second post of the day...and he's still sniffing up my butt.

Herring, like everyone else, is just toying with you.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 17th 08 02:23 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo
store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals
use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands
even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?


Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?



What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it
was you were trying to say there?




The camera does not make the photograph. Some really nice photographic
art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak Brownie. The
WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the blown out, poorly
composed snapshots you have posted. Who could ever forget the mood and
emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.


[email protected] December 17th 08 02:26 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Dec 17, 9:23*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:


Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo
store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals
use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?


Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands
even come close in that market segment.


Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?


Gonna take me up on my offer? *See your best stuff?


How about it?


What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it
was you were trying to say there?


The camera does not make the photograph. *Some really nice photographic
art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak Brownie. *The
WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the blown out, poorly
composed snapshots you have posted. *Who could ever forget the mood and
emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The copyrighted ones that he steals off of websites and claims are his
are nice though.....

Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 02:38 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real
photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local
professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands
even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?

Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?



What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever
it was you were trying to say there?




The camera does not make the photograph. Some really nice photographic
art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak Brownie. The
WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the blown out, poorly
composed snapshots you have posted. Who could ever forget the mood and
emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.



I was supposed to waste more than 10 seconds taking a photo of a tree
stump we used for target practice?

You apparently have nothing productive to do with your hobby time. I do.

Find another obsession, asshole. I suggest...Loogy. He's close, and you
could easily BigBrother him into the same sort of cowardly loser you are.


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 17th 08 02:40 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real
photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local
professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade
SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other
brands even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?

Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?


What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever
it was you were trying to say there?




The camera does not make the photograph. Some really nice
photographic art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak
Brownie. The WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the
blown out, poorly composed snapshots you have posted. Who could ever
forget the mood and emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.



I was supposed to waste more than 10 seconds taking a photo of a tree
stump we used for target practice?

You apparently have nothing productive to do with your hobby time. I do.


You have posted many photos in the past. The only ones that anyone
liked you stole from other people's web site, and presented as your
work. Why don't you post one photo you are proud of?

Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 02:56 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real
photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local
professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade
SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other
brands even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?

Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?


What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to
do with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of
the world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or
whatever it was you were trying to say there?




The camera does not make the photograph. Some really nice
photographic art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak
Brownie. The WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the
blown out, poorly composed snapshots you have posted. Who could ever
forget the mood and emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.



I was supposed to waste more than 10 seconds taking a photo of a tree
stump we used for target practice?

You apparently have nothing productive to do with your hobby time. I do.


You have posted many photos in the past. The only ones that anyone
liked you stole from other people's web site, and presented as your
work. Why don't you post one photo you are proud of?



I guess I have to repeat this daily:

I don't give a crap what you think.
I don't give a crap about your advice.
I don't give a crap about your "suggestions."

Go diddle Loogy. He's local.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 17th 08 03:01 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real
photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local
professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade
SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other
brands even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?

Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?


What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to
do with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of
the world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or
whatever it was you were trying to say there?




The camera does not make the photograph. Some really nice
photographic art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak
Brownie. The WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the
blown out, poorly composed snapshots you have posted. Who could
ever forget the mood and emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.



I was supposed to waste more than 10 seconds taking a photo of a tree
stump we used for target practice?

You apparently have nothing productive to do with your hobby time. I do.


You have posted many photos in the past. The only ones that anyone
liked you stole from other people's web site, and presented as your
work. Why don't you post one photo you are proud of?



I guess I have to repeat this daily:

I don't give a crap what you think.
I don't give a crap about your advice.
I don't give a crap about your "suggestions."

Go diddle Loogy. He's local.


If you don't give a crap, I suggest you don't respond. Your obsession
about my posts are getting old.


Boater[_3_] December 17th 08 03:02 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real
photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local
professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?

Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade
SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other
brands even come close in that market segment.

Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?

Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff?

How about it?


What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to
do with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of
the world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or
whatever it was you were trying to say there?




The camera does not make the photograph. Some really nice
photographic art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak
Brownie. The WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the
blown out, poorly composed snapshots you have posted. Who could
ever forget the mood and emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.



I was supposed to waste more than 10 seconds taking a photo of a
tree stump we used for target practice?

You apparently have nothing productive to do with your hobby time. I
do.

You have posted many photos in the past. The only ones that anyone
liked you stole from other people's web site, and presented as your
work. Why don't you post one photo you are proud of?



I guess I have to repeat this daily:

I don't give a crap what you think.
I don't give a crap about your advice.
I don't give a crap about your "suggestions."

Go diddle Loogy. He's local.


If you don't give a crap, I suggest you don't respond. Your obsession
about my posts are getting old.



Go diddle Loogy. He's local and I am sure he will bend over for you.

[email protected] December 17th 08 03:54 PM

Micro-four thirds...
 
On Dec 17, 9:23*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:


Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo
store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals
use either Nikon or Canon cameras.
That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows
better.
Where is that, Tom?
By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province?


Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR
cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands
even come close in that market segment.


Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"?
What does that mean, anyway?


Gonna take me up on my offer? *See your best stuff?


How about it?


What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do
with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the
world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it
was you were trying to say there?


The camera does not make the photograph. *Some really nice photographic
art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak Brownie. *The
WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the blown out, poorly
composed snapshots you have posted. *Who could ever forget the mood and
emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Here's some Brownie photos that are great!
http://www.davidrichert.com/brownie_hawkeye.htm


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