Joke of The Day...
 

Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:55:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

Well!

There won't be any competing with you today. That was one hell of a start.
--
John

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On Dec 12, 6:18*am, John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:55:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

Well!

There won't be any competing with you today. That was one hell of a start..
--
John

Only comment's he'd get from me would me NEGATIVE

And I refuse to stand NEUTRAL.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:22:44 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 12, 6:18*am, John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:55:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

Well!

There won't be any competing with you today. That was one hell of a start.

Only comment's he'd get from me would me NEGATIVE

And I refuse to stand NEUTRAL.

Thus proving that you are, indeed, a neutron.

BBAAWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAA!!!!

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:18:11 -0500, John wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:55:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

Well!

There won't be any competing with you today. That was one hell of a start.

I've decided that competition is a tool of our Corporate Masters to
keep the working class from rebelling en mass.

Thus, I will no longer compete showing solidarity with the
proletariat.

And Yale graduates.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:38:33 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:18:11 -0500, John wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:55:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

Well!

There won't be any competing with you today. That was one hell of a start.

I've decided that competition is a tool of our Corporate Masters to
keep the working class from rebelling en mass.

Thus, I will no longer compete showing solidarity with the
proletariat.

And Yale graduates.

Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get to
keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given to the
employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.
--
John

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:07:44 -0500, John wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:38:33 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:18:11 -0500, John wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:55:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

Well!

There won't be any competing with you today. That was one hell of a start.

I've decided that competition is a tool of our Corporate Masters to
keep the working class from rebelling en mass.

Thus, I will no longer compete showing solidarity with the
proletariat.

And Yale graduates.

Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get to
keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given to the
employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.

Well duh...

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.

Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. McConnell
must like Russian Roulette. After already giving $350 billion to Wall
Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to spend $14 billion.
That's one month's spending in Iraq.

If I'm not mistaken, there will be a bloodbath on Wall Street today.
Republicans sure know how to instill confidence in the economy.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:35:53 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.

Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. McConnell
must like Russian Roulette. After already giving $350 billion to Wall
Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to spend $14 billion.
That's one month's spending in Iraq.

If I'm not mistaken, there will be a bloodbath on Wall Street today.
Republicans sure know how to instill confidence in the economy.

UAW sure knows how to bend.

From Washington Post:

" The high-stakes talks broke down over when the wages of union workers
would be slashed to the same level as those paid to nonunion workers at
U.S. plants of foreign automakers such as Toyota and Honda.

Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.), the lead GOP negotiator, said the sides were on
the brink of a deal on the amendment he had offered. Representatives from
the United Auto Workers -- who were present for most of the negotiations --
would not agree to a specific date, Corker said.

"We offered any day -- any day -- in 2009," Corker said."

Note, the words '...slashed to the same level as those paid to nonunion
workers..." came from the Washington Post.
--
John

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:41:58 -0500, HK wrote:


It's good this is happening now because when the economy tanks further,
we'll be able to remind the public that the Republicans sank the
domestically owned auto industry here and put millions out of work.

Harry, depressions aren't good for anybody.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:47:56 -0500, HK wrote:


Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.

I won't argue with that. If you were trying to destroy this country, you
couldn't do a better job than the Republicans have done over the last 8
years.

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On Dec 12, 6:30*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:22:44 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



On Dec 12, 6:18*am, John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:55:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
Two hydrogen atoms are floating in space, one atom turns to the other
and says, “I think I just lost an Electron!!”

To which the other atom says, “Are you sure?”

And the first atom responds, “I’m POSITIVE!!!”

Well!

There won't be any competing with you today. That was one hell of a start.

Only comment's he'd get from me would me NEGATIVE
And I refuse to stand NEUTRAL.

Thus proving that you are, indeed, a neutron.

BBAAWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAA!!!!

Good. Then shall we commence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhcjRoU0C7g

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:50:11 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:47:56 -0500, HK wrote:


Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.

I won't argue with that. If you were trying to destroy this country, you
couldn't do a better job than the Republicans have done over the last 8
years.
....especially while Pelosi and Reid ran Congress.
--
John

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On Dec 12, 8:50*am, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:47:56 -0500, HK wrote:
Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.

I won't argue with that. *If you were trying to destroy this country, you
couldn't do a better job than the Republicans have done over the last 8
years.

Geeze, if you go back and look at all the numbers, we were doing fine
until Pelosi and Reid took over and created the most corrupt congress
in history.. Gas was low, Unemployment was low, housing was great,
stocks were great, only in the last two years, everything **** the
bed... go look for yourself...

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On Dec 12, 10:21*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 12, 8:50 am, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:47:56 -0500, HK wrote:
Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.
I won't argue with that. *If you were trying to destroy this country, you
couldn't do a better job than the Republicans have done over the last 8
years.

Geeze, if you go back and look at all the numbers, we were doing fine
until Pelosi and Reid took over and created the most corrupt congress
in history.. Gas was low, Unemployment was low, housing was great,
stocks were great, only in the last two years, everything **** the
bed... go look for yourself...

Are you really as stupid as that post makes you appear?

Not really, go google the numbers, I got an A in math but then again I
didn't graduate from Yale;) Listen Harry, if it was good for the
Union of Democrats you would tell me water isn't wet so your input
here in such conversation is pretty much useless..

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On Dec 12, 10:47*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:21 am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 12, 8:50 am, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:47:56 -0500, HK wrote:
Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.
I won't argue with that. *If you were trying to destroy this country, you
couldn't do a better job than the Republicans have done over the last 8
years.
Geeze, if you go back and look at all the numbers, we were doing fine
until Pelosi and Reid took over and created the most corrupt congress
in history.. Gas was low, Unemployment was low, housing was great,
stocks were great, only in the last two years, everything **** the
bed... go look for yourself...
Are you really as stupid as that post makes you appear?

Not really, go google the numbers, I got an A in math but then again I
didn't graduate from Yale;) *Listen Harry, if it was good for the
Union of Democrats you would tell me water isn't wet so your input
here in such conversation is pretty much useless..

Your attempt to tie the current recession/depression to Pelosi and Reid
are all the evidence one needs of your utter naivete and stupidity. You
have been told a million times here and elsewhere I am sure that while
the Dems have a majority in the current Congress, they do not have a
working majority, and therefore rarely have the ability to push through
any legislation to which the Republicans object. Further, the idiot
known as Bush sets policy, at least for the next five or so weeks.

Your adherence to the GOP bull**** is pretty laughable considering your
circumstances.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Top reciepients of Fannie and Freddie money, in order:
Chris Dodd
Barak Obama
John Kerry

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.
Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life.
McConnell must like Russian Roulette. After already giving $350
billion to Wall Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to
spend $14 billion. That's one month's spending in Iraq.
If I'm not mistaken, there will be a bloodbath on Wall Street today.
Republicans sure know how to instill confidence in the economy.

One of the first steps any company needs to insure it's long term
viability is that it's cost structure is competitive. Since labor is
about 10% of the cost of the car, it makes sense for labor to agree to a
competitive salary to keep their jobs for the long term. It looks to me
that the UAW and the Senate are not playing Russian Roulette, it is more
like "Chicken" in a auto, to see who will swerve.



The southern Republicans in the Senate who turned down the deal did so
to protect the future sales of the foreign-owned car manufacturers on
their turf. It was patently obvious that they feel the failure of the
American automakers will increase marketshare for the plants in their
states.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:45:04 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


One of the first steps any company needs to insure it's long term
viability is that it's cost structure is competitive. Since labor is
about 10% of the cost of the car, it makes sense for labor to agree to a
competitive salary to keep their jobs for the long term. It looks to me
that the UAW and the Senate are not playing Russian Roulette, it is more
like "Chicken" in a auto, to see who will swerve.

Of course labor has to be part of any long term solution, but it's quite
interesting that Corker wanted to concentrate on labor's 10% and forget
about the other 90%. Regardless, when this economy is in such perilous
condition, letting GM and Chrysler go out of business, is quite counter-
productive. As I have said before, under normal circumstances, if the
economy was healthy, I would agree to let GM take it's chances with
bankruptcy.

As it stands, both GM and Chrysler, have hired bankruptcy lawyers. I
don't think the next several years are going to be pretty.

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On Dec 12, 10:54*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:





wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.
Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. *
McConnell must like Russian Roulette. *After already giving $350
billion to Wall Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to
spend $14 billion. *That's one month's spending in Iraq.
If I'm not mistaken, there will be a bloodbath on Wall Street today. *
Republicans sure know how to instill confidence in the economy.

One of the first steps any company needs to insure it's long term
viability is that it's cost structure is competitive. *Since labor is
about 10% of the cost of the car, it makes sense for labor to agree to a
competitive salary to keep their jobs for the long term. *It looks to me
that the UAW and the Senate are not playing Russian Roulette, it is more
like "Chicken" in a auto, to see who will swerve.

The southern Republicans in the Senate who turned down the deal did so
to protect the future sales of the foreign-owned car manufacturers on
their turf. It was patently obvious that they feel the failure of the
American automakers will increase marketshare for the plants in their
states.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't suppose that given the chance, the northern Democrats in the
Senate would try to protect their interests, no would they?

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On Dec 12, 11:16*am, wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:54*am, Boater wrote:





Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.
Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. *
McConnell must like Russian Roulette. *After already giving $350
billion to Wall Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to
spend $14 billion. *That's one month's spending in Iraq.
If I'm not mistaken, there will be a bloodbath on Wall Street today. *
Republicans sure know how to instill confidence in the economy.

One of the first steps any company needs to insure it's long term
viability is that it's cost structure is competitive. *Since labor is
about 10% of the cost of the car, it makes sense for labor to agree to a
competitive salary to keep their jobs for the long term. *It looks to me
that the UAW and the Senate are not playing Russian Roulette, it is more
like "Chicken" in a auto, to see who will swerve.

The southern Republicans in the Senate who turned down the deal did so
to protect the future sales of the foreign-owned car manufacturers on
their turf. It was patently obvious that they feel the failure of the
American automakers will increase marketshare for the plants in their
states.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't suppose that given the chance, the northern Democrats in the
Senate would try to protect their interests, no would they?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Only the ones North of the Equator! They do well at lockstep,
reguardless of the concequences. Remember they bragging about being
"the do nothing congress". Funny, they didn't run on that last time
around..;)

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On Dec 12, 11:24*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:45:04 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

One of the first steps any company needs to insure it's long term
viability is that it's cost structure is competitive. *Since labor is
about 10% of the cost of the car, it makes sense for labor to agree to a
competitive salary to keep their jobs for the long term. *It looks to me
that the UAW and the Senate are not playing Russian Roulette, it is more
like "Chicken" in a auto, to see who will swerve.

Of course labor has to be part of any long term solution, but it's quite
interesting that Corker wanted to concentrate on labor's 10% and forget
about the other 90%. *Regardless, when this economy is in such perilous
condition, letting GM and Chrysler go out of business, is quite counter-
productive. *As I have said before, under normal circumstances, if the
economy was healthy, I would agree to let GM take it's chances with
bankruptcy.

As it stands, both GM and Chrysler, have hired Man, bankruptcy lawyers. I
don't think the next several years are going to be pretty.

The Republicans wanted the UAW to engage in substantial pay package
givebacks in either 2009 or 2010, and apparently factored in the costs s
of the total absorbed payroll, too, which includes the retirees. There's
really not much difference between the hourly rates of the current
represented employees and the exploited employees of ForeignAutoMakersSouth.

I wonder if the Repubs want the unionized workers to give up health care
benefits, too?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Man, did you get a transcript of the union rep's news conference,
cause you are chiming exactly the same sour grapes bull**** as he
threw up? Word for word... Who'd a thunk? The Unions refused any
reasonable concessions, just crying and fudging the numbers.

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:41:58 -0500, HK wrote:


It's good this is happening now because when the economy tanks further,
we'll be able to remind the public that the Republicans sank the
domestically owned auto industry here and put millions out of work.

Harry, depressions aren't good for anybody.

Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.

Just a reminder the Republicans have not controlled congress for the
last two years from about the pont the DOW peaked at 14000 points.

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On Dec 12, 11:56*am, Keith nuttle wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.
Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. *McConnell
must like Russian Roulette. *After already giving $350 billion to Wall
Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to spend $14 billion. *
That's one month's spending in Iraq. *

If I'm not mistaken, there will be a bloodbath on Wall Street today. *
Republicans sure know how to instill confidence in the economy.

When I looked this morning the DOW futures were down over 200 points,
On opening the Dow dropped those 200 points and was on its way further
down, possible another 3000 points like the plunge after pelosi's
failure at the end of September.

Thank god that President Bush is still with us and stepped in. *He
averted the blood bath by making the auto bailout part of the original
wall street bailout. *Whether he has stop the 3000 point plunge remains
to be seen, but at least he trying to do what is right for the county.

When will we get rid of the "do nothing" congress that flooded the
market with worthless paper by not restricting the clinton plan of by
giving any one who was breathing a loan.

Believe it or not there are some people who do not make enough money to
afford a million dollar home.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The three biggest reciepients of lobby money from Fannie and Freddie
in order:
Chris Dodd... (worthless piece of ****)
Barak Obama (never made a good decision in his life... Resko,
Wright, Farakahn, Ayers, ACORN, and the whold Clinton team)
John Kerry (pffffttt... the list is too long)

Gee, I wonder why the Dems wouldn't put a cork in Freddie and Fannie
who are responsible for this recession, period...

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:35:53 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.

Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. McConnell
must like Russian Roulette. After already giving $350 billion to Wall
Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to spend $14 billion.
That's one month's spending in Iraq.

You know what? I don't think I care anymore.

Give 'em the freakin' money, let GMAC reshape as a bank holding
company and just get it the hell over with.

Honest-to-pete. We have a failed company who refused for years to
reshape itself, gave out ridiculous concessions to a union that didn't
give a crap either and now that the reaper has come to collect the
bill, their screaming "not yet - not yet".

Please - give 'em the money. Put the burden of paying for free
retiree health care on the back of the taxpayer - most of whom don't
share in the largess of a Union contract. Continue to build Hummers.
Screw new technologies or updated technologies - build 'em and buy
'em.

Corporate Darwinism is dead - you screw up you can't fail. Economic
Darwinism is dead - a bad economic model - no problem. Social
Darwinism is dead - no more good/bad as it's all relative.

Everything that made us who were are is dead - might as well get used
to it. Save everybody - make sure that all are comfortable even those
who don't deserve to be. I mean what the hell, why not. I'm not
paying enough in taxes at 30% percent a year. Want my money that I
worked 80 hours a week for, scrimped, saved, invested - why not - I
don't deserve it anyway - I made it on the backs of those less
fortunate. Hell, while you're at it, move a few welfare mothers into
my house - we'll live in the basement where we deserve to be because
others less fortunate didn't have our advantages. My struggle with
alcohol and drugs is diddly squat compared to a single mom with six
kids all by different fathers. I don't deserve my success because I
was careful and planned for the future - the future is now don't you
know and now belongs to somebody else.

Just get it done. Bail everybody out.

I'm tired of hearing about it.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:49:43 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 12, 10:47*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:21 am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 12, 8:50 am, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:47:56 -0500, HK wrote:
Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.
I won't argue with that. *If you were trying to destroy this country, you
couldn't do a better job than the Republicans have done over the last 8
years.
Geeze, if you go back and look at all the numbers, we were doing fine
until Pelosi and Reid took over and created the most corrupt congress
in history.. Gas was low, Unemployment was low, housing was great,
stocks were great, only in the last two years, everything **** the
bed... go look for yourself...
Are you really as stupid as that post makes you appear?

Not really, go google the numbers, I got an A in math but then again I
didn't graduate from Yale;) *Listen Harry, if it was good for the
Union of Democrats you would tell me water isn't wet so your input
here in such conversation is pretty much useless..

Your attempt to tie the current recession/depression to Pelosi and Reid
are all the evidence one needs of your utter naivete and stupidity. You
have been told a million times here and elsewhere I am sure that while
the Dems have a majority in the current Congress, they do not have a
working majority, and therefore rarely have the ability to push through
any legislation to which the Republicans object. Further, the idiot
known as Bush sets policy, at least for the next five or so weeks.

Your adherence to the GOP bull**** is pretty laughable considering your
circumstances.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Top reciepients of Fannie and Freddie money, in order:
Chris Dodd
Barak Obama
John Kerry

Amen.

Shame Harry has to resort to name calling and personal attacks to 'win'.
--
John

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:16:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 12, 10:54*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:





wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.
Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. *
McConnell must like Russian Roulette. *After already giving $350
billion to Wall Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to
spend $14 billion. *That's one month's spending in Iraq.
If I'm not mistaken, there will be a bloodbath on Wall Street today. *
Republicans sure know how to instill confidence in the economy.

One of the first steps any company needs to insure it's long term
viability is that it's cost structure is competitive. *Since labor is
about 10% of the cost of the car, it makes sense for labor to agree to a
competitive salary to keep their jobs for the long term. *It looks to me
that the UAW and the Senate are not playing Russian Roulette, it is more
like "Chicken" in a auto, to see who will swerve.

The southern Republicans in the Senate who turned down the deal did so
to protect the future sales of the foreign-owned car manufacturers on
their turf. It was patently obvious that they feel the failure of the
American automakers will increase marketshare for the plants in their
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I don't suppose that given the chance, the northern Democrats in the
Senate would try to protect their interests, no would they?

Not a bad point, Loog.
--
John

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:24:58 -0500, Boater
wrote:



The Republicans wanted the UAW to engage in substantial pay package
givebacks in either 2009 or 2010, and apparently factored in the costs s
of the total absorbed payroll, too, which includes the retirees. There's
really not much difference between the hourly rates of the current
represented employees and the exploited employees of ForeignAutoMakersSouth.

No, nothing to do with retirees. More to do with number of "new"
workers who are lower paid versus "legacy" workers.
UAW didn't want to set a date certain on when the mix would get wages
to the same level as the transplants.
Attrition and growth are unknown.
Really not a big deal, since the UAW has given up just about
everything else. As you said, the wages are close to parity already
and that doesn't add up to a hill of beans.
Corker has the right idea for long term success, and I think he had
everybody's interests in mind. He's a sensible guy.
Like I said before though, UAW is tough, and they got pushed too hard.
I really think Corker in the end had to bend to the other more senior
Reps for the date certain to be included.

--Vic

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On Dec 12, 12:17*pm, John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:49:43 -0800 (PST),
wrote:





On Dec 12, 10:47*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:21 am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 12, 8:50 am, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:47:56 -0500, HK wrote:
Of course not. But the Senate Republicans in true GOP scorched earth
policy, figure if they aren't in charge, they might as well go into
destroyer mode.
I won't argue with that. *If you were trying to destroy this country, you
couldn't do a better job than the Republicans have done over the last 8
years.
Geeze, if you go back and look at all the numbers, we were doing fine
until Pelosi and Reid took over and created the most corrupt congress
in history.. Gas was low, Unemployment was low, housing was great,
stocks were great, only in the last two years, everything **** the
bed... go look for yourself...
Are you really as stupid as that post makes you appear?

Not really, go google the numbers, I got an A in math but then again I
didn't graduate from Yale;) *Listen Harry, if it was good for the
Union of Democrats you would tell me water isn't wet so your input
here in such conversation is pretty much useless..

Your attempt to tie the current recession/depression to Pelosi and Reid
are all the evidence one needs of your utter naivete and stupidity. You
have been told a million times here and elsewhere I am sure that while
the Dems have a majority in the current Congress, they do not have a
working majority, and therefore rarely have the ability to push through
any legislation to which the Republicans object. Further, the idiot
known as Bush sets policy, at least for the next five or so weeks.

Your adherence to the GOP bull**** is pretty laughable considering your
circumstances

What, because I have health problems? At least we are a happy family,
not having to resort to lying about everything in my life to try to
hide my misery like you. Money isn't everything, I have everything I
need or want. You are a spoiled silver spoon brat, you will never be
happy with anything, I wouldn't trade for the world...


Top reciepients of Fannie and Freddie money, in order:
Chris Dodd
Barak Obama
John Kerry

Amen.

Shame Harry has to resort to name calling and personal attacks to 'win'.
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:35:53 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.
Well duh...
That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. McConnell
must like Russian Roulette. After already giving $350 billion to Wall
Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to spend $14 billion.
That's one month's spending in Iraq.

You know what? I don't think I care anymore.

Give 'em the freakin' money, let GMAC reshape as a bank holding
company and just get it the hell over with.

Honest-to-pete. We have a failed company who refused for years to
reshape itself, gave out ridiculous concessions to a union that didn't
give a crap either and now that the reaper has come to collect the
bill, their screaming "not yet - not yet".

Please - give 'em the money. Put the burden of paying for free
retiree health care on the back of the taxpayer - most of whom don't
share in the largess of a Union contract. Continue to build Hummers.
Screw new technologies or updated technologies - build 'em and buy
'em.

Corporate Darwinism is dead - you screw up you can't fail. Economic
Darwinism is dead - a bad economic model - no problem. Social
Darwinism is dead - no more good/bad as it's all relative.

Everything that made us who were are is dead - might as well get used
to it. Save everybody - make sure that all are comfortable even those
who don't deserve to be. I mean what the hell, why not. I'm not
paying enough in taxes at 30% percent a year. Want my money that I
worked 80 hours a week for, scrimped, saved, invested - why not - I
don't deserve it anyway - I made it on the backs of those less
fortunate. Hell, while you're at it, move a few welfare mothers into
my house - we'll live in the basement where we deserve to be because
others less fortunate didn't have our advantages. My struggle with
alcohol and drugs is diddly squat compared to a single mom with six
kids all by different fathers. I don't deserve my success because I
was careful and planned for the future - the future is now don't you
know and now belongs to somebody else.

Just get it done. Bail everybody out.

I'm tired of hearing about it.


You ought to visit Norway, Tom. Really. A much more reasonable society
than what we have in this country in many ways.

Too cold for me, and I could never learn Norwegian. But you could.

Some time ago, I pointed out any number of times that I thought large
public corporations in all sectors were defrauding the public in terms
of their financial statements, and the stock market was built on little
more than a house of cards.

I feel vindicated. Again.

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On Dec 12, 11:40*am, wrote:
On Dec 12, 11:24*am, Boater wrote:





wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:45:04 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

One of the first steps any company needs to insure it's long term
viability is that it's cost structure is competitive. *Since labor is
about 10% of the cost of the car, it makes sense for labor to agree to a
competitive salary to keep their jobs for the long term. *It looks to me
that the UAW and the Senate are not playing Russian Roulette, it is more
like "Chicken" in a auto, to see who will swerve.

Of course labor has to be part of any long term solution, but it's quite
interesting that Corker wanted to concentrate on labor's 10% and forget
about the other 90%. *Regardless, when this economy is in such perilous
condition, letting GM and Chrysler go out of business, is quite counter-
productive. *As I have said before, under normal circumstances, if the
economy was healthy, I would agree to let GM take it's chances with
bankruptcy.

As it stands, both GM and Chrysler, have hired Man, bankruptcy lawyers. I
don't think the next several years are going to be pretty.

The Republicans wanted the UAW to engage in substantial pay package
givebacks in either 2009 or 2010, and apparently factored in the costs s
of the total absorbed payroll, too, which includes the retirees. There's
really not much difference between the hourly rates of the current
represented employees and the exploited employees of ForeignAutoMakersSouth.

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Man, did you get a transcript of the union rep's news conference,
cause you are chiming exactly the same sour grapes bull**** as he
threw up? Word for word... *Who'd a thunk? The Unions refused any
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He googled it. It's all he has in his pathetic life.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:15:53 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:35:53 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Speaking of competition, it looks like the UAW won last night. They get
to keep their high salaries. They won't have to accept the drivel given
to the employees at Toyota and Honda.

Of course, that's only for the next few weeks.

They must be Yale graduates also.

Well duh...

That's the dumbest F'n decision, I think I've seen in my life. McConnell
must like Russian Roulette. After already giving $350 billion to Wall
Street to keep the markets afloat, he's unwilling to spend $14 billion.
That's one month's spending in Iraq.

You know what? I don't think I care anymore.

Give 'em the freakin' money, let GMAC reshape as a bank holding
company and just get it the hell over with.

Honest-to-pete. We have a failed company who refused for years to
reshape itself, gave out ridiculous concessions to a union that didn't
give a crap either and now that the reaper has come to collect the
bill, their screaming "not yet - not yet".

Please - give 'em the money. Put the burden of paying for free
retiree health care on the back of the taxpayer - most of whom don't
share in the largess of a Union contract. Continue to build Hummers.
Screw new technologies or updated technologies - build 'em and buy
'em.

Corporate Darwinism is dead - you screw up you can't fail. Economic
Darwinism is dead - a bad economic model - no problem. Social
Darwinism is dead - no more good/bad as it's all relative.

Everything that made us who were are is dead - might as well get used
to it. Save everybody - make sure that all are comfortable even those
who don't deserve to be. I mean what the hell, why not. I'm not
paying enough in taxes at 30% percent a year. Want my money that I
worked 80 hours a week for, scrimped, saved, invested - why not - I
don't deserve it anyway - I made it on the backs of those less
fortunate. Hell, while you're at it, move a few welfare mothers into
my house - we'll live in the basement where we deserve to be because
others less fortunate didn't have our advantages. My struggle with
alcohol and drugs is diddly squat compared to a single mom with six
kids all by different fathers. I don't deserve my success because I
was careful and planned for the future - the future is now don't you
know and now belongs to somebody else.

Just get it done. Bail everybody out.

I'm tired of hearing about it.

Hey, I celebrated my twentieth 'birthday' two days ago.

It sure as hell ain't 'squat'!
--
John