Gates of Kiev
 

After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build
up to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf
who liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to
"cuddle". She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates
of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I
thought some of you may want to try this out.

Gates of Kiev
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build up
to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf who
liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to "cuddle".
She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I thought
some of you may want to try this out.


Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand the
relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the 1812
Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build up
to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf who
liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to "cuddle".
She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I thought
some of you may want to try this out.


Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand the
relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the 1812
Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?

Eisboch



The composers are both Russian, they are just very intense. ;)

Gates of Kiev
 

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of
like the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive
build up to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf
who liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to
"cuddle". She would insist we make it last to at least the Great
Gates of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I
thought some of you may want to try this out.


Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand
the relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the
1812 Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?

Eisboch


The composers are both Russian, they are just very intense. ;)


PS - 1812 Overture was Tchaikovsky's tribute to the Russians defeating
Napoleon. Mussorgsky wrote "Pictures at an Exhibition" as a tribute to
a friends art collection, and was written well after the 1812. But I
only compared the two because of the intensity and great crescendo.

Gates of Kiev
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build
up to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf
who liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to
"cuddle". She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates
of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I
thought some of you may want to try this out.


Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand the
relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the 1812
Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?

Eisboch

The composers are both Russian, they are just very intense. ;)


There are some passages that are virtually identical in it and in the 1812.
They must be referenced or inspired by something else. It's interesting
and perfect for Martin-Logan SL3 electrostatics. These speakers really
shine in bright brass and acoustical music. Gives you goosebumps.

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:48:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
m...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build up
to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf who
liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to "cuddle".
She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I thought
some of you may want to try this out.


Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand the
relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the 1812
Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?

Eisboch


For a spectacular version, get the Telarc CD. Wow!

http://tinyurl.com/5tevez

Just don't break anything.
--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

On Dec 11, 7:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. * Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build
up to the crescendo.

This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf
who liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to
"cuddle". *She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates
of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I
thought some of you may want to try this out.

Very good stuff! I really like the tympani (kettle drums). I played
them in high school orchestra. It isn't easy to be on pitch with them,
they are adjustable with a foot pedal, but you have to have a real ear
for pitch.

Gates of Kiev
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build
up to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf
who liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to
"cuddle". She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates
of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I
thought some of you may want to try this out.

Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand the
relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the 1812
Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?

Eisboch
The composers are both Russian, they are just very intense. ;)


There are some passages that are virtually identical in it and in the 1812.
They must be referenced or inspired by something else. It's interesting
and perfect for Martin-Logan SL3 electrostatics. These speakers really
shine in bright brass and acoustical music. Gives you goosebumps.

Eisboch




There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk tunes,
are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There are also
tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo piano. As
such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play collection of
piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the Ravel
orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few decades to
performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano superstars. This
modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater wrote:



There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk tunes,
are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There are also
tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo piano. As
such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play collection of
piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the Ravel
orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few decades to
performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano superstars. This
modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.


--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater wrote:


There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk tunes,
are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There are also
tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo piano. As
such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play collection of
piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the Ravel
orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few decades to
performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano superstars. This
modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I am not cultured enough to prefer Pictures at an Exhibition "as
written". I have always thought the piano version is nice, but
different, sort of "Pictures at an Exhibition Unplugged". Since the
music was written to be played at his friends art exhibit, it would have
been difficult to get an orchestra in the small gallery, so Mussorgsky
didn't have that option. If you look at Mussorgsky other compositions,
I would guess he would have enjoyed the heavy and overwrought
Orchestrated version. If there EVER was a piece of music that was HEAVY
and OVERWROUGHT, it is Night on Bald Mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0GekZl7YA

I have enjoyed Night on Bald Music since I heard it in Disney's
Fantasia, and that when I thought it was written by Disney.

I am just a boorish uncouth type of guy who knows what he likes, and
would never know what music to listen to on high tech speakers and what
music to listen to on old regular speakers. On top of that you need to
about what decade the music was recorded,

I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined.

Gates of Kiev
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few decades to
performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano superstars. This
modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super high-tech
speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I like it.

Now, getting back to earth he

For years I've enjoyed a hobby of creating musical performances using "midi"
technology.
Midi is not an audio recording like an MP3 or WAV file. It's simply a set
of digital instructions or "events"
in a file that instructs a midi device or sound engine to play a certain
note, with a certain velocity, with a certain "voice", etc. I've mentioned
before that midi backing tracks are often used in live band performances,
establishing a concert's musical performance sets. Enough about that.

After struggling with inexpensive keyboards and computer programs over the
years for composing and sequencing midi files, I recently purchased a more
professional level keyboard. It's not simply a keyboard. It's referred to
as a keyboard "arranger" and it is designed for both live performances, plus
doing orchestrations or arrangements of music to be stored for future use.
It's a Korg Pa50 which is not Korg's top of the line, but it uses Korg's top
of the line Titan processors. In fact, it actually has two processing
sequencers that can be run simultaneously, taking a lot of the time and
headaches out of getting a finished product.

But wait. I am not done yet.

We also have a Samick Grand Piano that we purchased several years ago. It's
not a digital piano. It's a 7' acoustic Grand, but when we bought it, we
had a system called a QRS Pianomation installed in it.

http://www.qrsmusic.com/pianomation.asp

The piano may be played normally, but you can also play proprietary, premade
QRS files through the Pianomation system that mechanically "plays" the piano
very similarly to the old player pianos that used paper rolls. The piano
keys are actually played like the old player pianos. It's wild to watch.

The QRS system replaces the paper rolls with digital data on a CD and feeds
it to the mechanical drives that operate the piano's keys, hammers, sustain
pedals, etc. It's pretty cool. The only problem with ours was that the
QRS file format, although very similar in concept to MIDI, is a different
format and .mid files will not play.
(I understand that the newer Pianomation systems will also recognize MIDI
files as well as QRS files, but ours does not)

Recently however, I found a simple and free program that converts MIDI to
QRS. It turns out that they are very similar, the difference being that
MIDI is all digital whereas QRS is, for lack of a better way of expressing
it, a type of analog/digital format. It operates digitally, but by using
analog tone shifts.
Whatever it is, it works.

So, now I can arrange performances on the Korg, store in standard midi, then
convert to QRS and play through the grand piano. The sound is that of the
acoustic piano in all it's glory. No amplifiers or speakers involved.

The beauty of these files is that they are very small, being just digital
instructions.
A recent 20 minute Christmas medley arranged on the Korg is only 77KB. I
can convert it to an MP3 or WAV file, but it would be over 100MB in size.

It may bore you to death, but here's the file. I put it together for Mrs.E.
because she loves hearing the piano playing in the house. It will play
through your computer's midi engine. Hopefully, you have a decent set of
speakers hooked up to your computer to get the best quality sound. But, you
have to imagine the same thing being played on a grand, acoustic piano that
does not depend on a sound card, engine or speakers to generate the tonal
quality. It sounds real, because it *is* real.

http://www.eisboch.com/chrismasmed08.mid

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:


There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk
tunes, are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There
are also tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo piano.
As such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play collection
of piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the Ravel
orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few decades
to performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano superstars.
This modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I am not cultured enough to prefer Pictures at an Exhibition "as
written". I have always thought the piano version is nice, but
different, sort of "Pictures at an Exhibition Unplugged". Since the
music was written to be played at his friends art exhibit, it would have
been difficult to get an orchestra in the small gallery, so Mussorgsky
didn't have that option. If you look at Mussorgsky other compositions,
I would guess he would have enjoyed the heavy and overwrought
Orchestrated version. If there EVER was a piece of music that was HEAVY
and OVERWROUGHT, it is Night on Bald Mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0GekZl7YA

I have enjoyed Night on Bald Music since I heard it in Disney's
Fantasia, and that when I thought it was written by Disney.

I am just a boorish uncouth type of guy who knows what he likes, and
would never know what music to listen to on high tech speakers and what
music to listen to on old regular speakers. On top of that you need to
about what decade the music was recorded,

I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined.



Life isn't easy for the likes of you.

That piece of music you like from the famous Disney cartoon is not Night
on Bald Mountain. It is Night on Bare Mountain.

"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.

Gates of Kiev
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few decades to
performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano superstars. This
modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super high-tech
speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I like it.

Now, getting back to earth he

For years I've enjoyed a hobby of creating musical performances using "midi"
technology.
Midi is not an audio recording like an MP3 or WAV file. It's simply a set
of digital instructions or "events"
in a file that instructs a midi device or sound engine to play a certain
note, with a certain velocity, with a certain "voice", etc. I've mentioned
before that midi backing tracks are often used in live band performances,
establishing a concert's musical performance sets. Enough about that.

After struggling with inexpensive keyboards and computer programs over the
years for composing and sequencing midi files, I recently purchased a more
professional level keyboard. It's not simply a keyboard. It's referred to
as a keyboard "arranger" and it is designed for both live performances, plus
doing orchestrations or arrangements of music to be stored for future use.
It's a Korg Pa50 which is not Korg's top of the line, but it uses Korg's top
of the line Titan processors. In fact, it actually has two processing
sequencers that can be run simultaneously, taking a lot of the time and
headaches out of getting a finished product.

But wait. I am not done yet.

We also have a Samick Grand Piano that we purchased several years ago. It's
not a digital piano. It's a 7' acoustic Grand, but when we bought it, we
had a system called a QRS Pianomation installed in it.

http://www.qrsmusic.com/pianomation.asp

The piano may be played normally, but you can also play proprietary, premade
QRS files through the Pianomation system that mechanically "plays" the piano
very similarly to the old player pianos that used paper rolls. The piano
keys are actually played like the old player pianos. It's wild to watch.

The QRS system replaces the paper rolls with digital data on a CD and feeds
it to the mechanical drives that operate the piano's keys, hammers, sustain
pedals, etc. It's pretty cool. The only problem with ours was that the
QRS file format, although very similar in concept to MIDI, is a different
format and .mid files will not play.
(I understand that the newer Pianomation systems will also recognize MIDI
files as well as QRS files, but ours does not)

Recently however, I found a simple and free program that converts MIDI to
QRS. It turns out that they are very similar, the difference being that
MIDI is all digital whereas QRS is, for lack of a better way of expressing
it, a type of analog/digital format. It operates digitally, but by using
analog tone shifts.
Whatever it is, it works.

So, now I can arrange performances on the Korg, store in standard midi, then
convert to QRS and play through the grand piano. The sound is that of the
acoustic piano in all it's glory. No amplifiers or speakers involved.

The beauty of these files is that they are very small, being just digital
instructions.
A recent 20 minute Christmas medley arranged on the Korg is only 77KB. I
can convert it to an MP3 or WAV file, but it would be over 100MB in size.

It may bore you to death, but here's the file. I put it together for Mrs.E.
because she loves hearing the piano playing in the house. It will play
through your computer's midi engine. Hopefully, you have a decent set of
speakers hooked up to your computer to get the best quality sound. But, you
have to imagine the same thing being played on a grand, acoustic piano that
does not depend on a sound card, engine or speakers to generate the tonal
quality. It sounds real, because it *is* real.

http://www.eisboch.com/chrismasmed08.mid

Eisboch






It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic
piano to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?

Gates of Kiev
 

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:


There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk
tunes, are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There
are also tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo
piano. As such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play
collection of piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the
Ravel orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few
decades to performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano
superstars. This modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I am not cultured enough to prefer Pictures at an Exhibition "as
written". I have always thought the piano version is nice, but
different, sort of "Pictures at an Exhibition Unplugged". Since the
music was written to be played at his friends art exhibit, it would
have been difficult to get an orchestra in the small gallery, so
Mussorgsky didn't have that option. If you look at Mussorgsky other
compositions, I would guess he would have enjoyed the heavy and
overwrought Orchestrated version. If there EVER was a piece of music
that was HEAVY and OVERWROUGHT, it is Night on Bald Mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0GekZl7YA

I have enjoyed Night on Bald Music since I heard it in Disney's
Fantasia, and that when I thought it was written by Disney.

I am just a boorish uncouth type of guy who knows what he likes, and
would never know what music to listen to on high tech speakers and
what music to listen to on old regular speakers. On top of that you
need to about what decade the music was recorded,

I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined.



Life isn't easy for the likes of you.

That piece of music you like from the famous Disney cartoon is not Night
on Bald Mountain. It is Night on Bare Mountain.

Damn, I learn something new all the time. If you had not pointed that
out, I would never have known. You may want to contact Disney about
this because they are selling the Walt Disney's Fantasia: Remastered
Original Soundtrack official but they included A Night on Bald Mountain
by Mussorgsky, instead of Night on Bare Mountain. They must not be a
flaunt in translating Russian as you are. Night on Bald Mountain and
Night on Bare Mountain are the exact same music, it is a difference in
translation of the Russian.


"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.

I know, I try to enjoy life and not worry trying to be pompous or if I
am listening to music on the correct speakers. Jeez, you really are
funny. I would enjoy meeting you in real life, I would lay 10 to 1 odds
that you are real mousy reserved type of guy. I have never known anyone
who tries so desperately seeks approval.

Gates of Kiev
 

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:


There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk
tunes, are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There
are also tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo
piano. As such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play
collection of piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the
Ravel orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few
decades to performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano
superstars. This modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written*
by Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I am not cultured enough to prefer Pictures at an Exhibition "as
written". I have always thought the piano version is nice, but
different, sort of "Pictures at an Exhibition Unplugged". Since the
music was written to be played at his friends art exhibit, it would
have been difficult to get an orchestra in the small gallery, so
Mussorgsky didn't have that option. If you look at Mussorgsky other
compositions, I would guess he would have enjoyed the heavy and
overwrought Orchestrated version. If there EVER was a piece of music
that was HEAVY and OVERWROUGHT, it is Night on Bald Mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0GekZl7YA

I have enjoyed Night on Bald Music since I heard it in Disney's
Fantasia, and that when I thought it was written by Disney.

I am just a boorish uncouth type of guy who knows what he likes, and
would never know what music to listen to on high tech speakers and
what music to listen to on old regular speakers. On top of that you
need to about what decade the music was recorded,

I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined.



Life isn't easy for the likes of you.

That piece of music you like from the famous Disney cartoon is not
Night on Bald Mountain. It is Night on Bare Mountain.

Damn, I learn something new all the time. If you had not pointed that
out, I would never have known. You may want to contact Disney about
this because they are selling the Walt Disney's Fantasia: Remastered
Original Soundtrack official but they included A Night on Bald Mountain
by Mussorgsky, instead of Night on Bare Mountain. They must not be a
flaunt in translating Russian as you are. Night on Bald Mountain and
Night on Bare Mountain are the exact same music, it is a difference in
translation of the Russian.


"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.

I know, I try to enjoy life and not worry trying to be pompous or if I
am listening to music on the correct speakers. Jeez, you really are
funny. I would enjoy meeting you in real life, I would lay 10 to 1 odds
that you are real mousy reserved type of guy. I have never known anyone
who tries so desperately seeks approval.




I was trying to lead you down the path of righteousness, since you
seem to prefer the Ravel "Pictures," which is kind of silly.

The original title given the work by its composer include the descriptor
"Bare," not "Bold." Another Russian composer "messed" with the original
Mussorgsky, and that adaptation of Mussorgsky's work, along with some of
the "original" was the basis of the work Stokowski "arranged" for the movie.

I'm sure you can google up something in conflict. That's your stock in
trade, right? I mean, you don't seem to actually know anything.

Gates of Kiev
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...


It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic piano
to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?


As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular" non-electric
piano to you because you are playing it on a computer, using a computer
sound module or board to produce the sound of a piano. It can only sound as
good as the type of sound board you have and the speakers you hear it
through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR equipped
one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular" non-electric, grand
piano. Because it is. The piano produces the sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic piano
to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?


As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular" non-electric
piano to you because you are playing it on a computer, using a computer
sound module or board to produce the sound of a piano. It can only sound as
good as the type of sound board you have and the speakers you hear it
through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR equipped
one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular" non-electric, grand
piano. Because it is. The piano produces the sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch




Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
audience’s perspective. Interpretation and performance skills can thus
be minutely monitored and refined.

• CEUS ensures recordings without any of the sound distortions
introduced by conventional audio systems (microphones, amplifiers,
speakers). Live-recordings from the concert hall are now able to be
realised with this instrument excluding the disturbing noises associated
with live performances.

• CD production recordings can be made and edited on your own
instrument. CD production can be continued in any sound studio equipped
with a CEUS system at any given time.

• CEUS is your partner of choice for long distance music production.
If you would like to play four-handed but you have only got two hands?
CEUS will be at your disposal.

• You already own a Bösendorfer grand and now you prefer a computer
controlled grand? CEUS can be built into all Bösendorfer grand pianos
(models 170 to 290). But don’t worry: the amazing Bösendorfer sound will
remain unchanged even after a customized fitting.
CEUS will work magic

You might perhaps feel like having someone else play for you and conjure
up the music of renowned pianists in your own living room. We will
compile for you a collection of select piano pieces. At one touch of the
remote control CEUS will work magic. Invisible hands will bring your
favourite music – recorded at the Vienna Musikverein – into your home.
Your friends will be amazed.

Gates of Kiev
 

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic
piano to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?


As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular"
non-electric piano to you because you are playing it on a computer,
using a computer sound module or board to produce the sound of a
piano. It can only sound as good as the type of sound board you have
and the speakers you hear it through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR
equipped one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular"
non-electric, grand piano. Because it is. The piano produces the
sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch



Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
audience’s perspective. Interpretation and performance skills can thus
be minutely monitored and refined.

• CEUS ensures recordings without any of the sound distortions
introduced by conventional audio systems (microphones, amplifiers,
speakers). Live-recordings from the concert hall are now able to be
realised with this instrument excluding the disturbing noises associated
with live performances.

• CD production recordings can be made and edited on your own
instrument. CD production can be continued in any sound studio equipped
with a CEUS system at any given time.

• CEUS is your partner of choice for long distance music production.
If you would like to play four-handed but you have only got two hands?
CEUS will be at your disposal.

• You already own a Bösendorfer grand and now you prefer a computer
controlled grand? CEUS can be built into all Bösendorfer grand pianos
(models 170 to 290). But don’t worry: the amazing Bösendorfer sound will
remain unchanged even after a customized fitting.
CEUS will work magic

You might perhaps feel like having someone else play for you and conjure
up the music of renowned pianists in your own living room. We will
compile for you a collection of select piano pieces. At one touch of the
remote control CEUS will work magic. Invisible hands will bring your
favourite music – recorded at the Vienna Musikverein – into your home.
Your friends will be amazed.

You are an Internet genius Harry. If you didn't have the Internet you
would be a catalog genius.

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:26:29 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:


There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk
tunes, are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There
are also tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo
piano. As such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play
collection of piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the
Ravel orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few
decades to performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano
superstars. This modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I am not cultured enough to prefer Pictures at an Exhibition "as
written". I have always thought the piano version is nice, but
different, sort of "Pictures at an Exhibition Unplugged". Since the
music was written to be played at his friends art exhibit, it would
have been difficult to get an orchestra in the small gallery, so
Mussorgsky didn't have that option. If you look at Mussorgsky other
compositions, I would guess he would have enjoyed the heavy and
overwrought Orchestrated version. If there EVER was a piece of music
that was HEAVY and OVERWROUGHT, it is Night on Bald Mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0GekZl7YA

I have enjoyed Night on Bald Music since I heard it in Disney's
Fantasia, and that when I thought it was written by Disney.

I am just a boorish uncouth type of guy who knows what he likes, and
would never know what music to listen to on high tech speakers and
what music to listen to on old regular speakers. On top of that you
need to about what decade the music was recorded,

I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined.



Life isn't easy for the likes of you.

That piece of music you like from the famous Disney cartoon is not Night
on Bald Mountain. It is Night on Bare Mountain.

Damn, I learn something new all the time. If you had not pointed that
out, I would never have known. You may want to contact Disney about
this because they are selling the Walt Disney's Fantasia: Remastered
Original Soundtrack official but they included A Night on Bald Mountain
by Mussorgsky, instead of Night on Bare Mountain. They must not be a
flaunt in translating Russian as you are. Night on Bald Mountain and
Night on Bare Mountain are the exact same music, it is a difference in
translation of the Russian.


"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.

I know, I try to enjoy life and not worry trying to be pompous or if I
am listening to music on the correct speakers. Jeez, you really are
funny. I would enjoy meeting you in real life, I would lay 10 to 1 odds
that you are real mousy reserved type of guy. I have never known anyone
who tries so desperately seeks approval.

Reggie, I think the sentence above which begins, "I would enjoy..." is
false.
--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few decades to
performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano superstars. This
modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written* by
Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super high-tech
speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.



I like it.

Now, getting back to earth he

For years I've enjoyed a hobby of creating musical performances using "midi"
technology.
Midi is not an audio recording like an MP3 or WAV file. It's simply a set
of digital instructions or "events"
in a file that instructs a midi device or sound engine to play a certain
note, with a certain velocity, with a certain "voice", etc. I've mentioned
before that midi backing tracks are often used in live band performances,
establishing a concert's musical performance sets. Enough about that.

After struggling with inexpensive keyboards and computer programs over the
years for composing and sequencing midi files, I recently purchased a more
professional level keyboard. It's not simply a keyboard. It's referred to
as a keyboard "arranger" and it is designed for both live performances, plus
doing orchestrations or arrangements of music to be stored for future use.
It's a Korg Pa50 which is not Korg's top of the line, but it uses Korg's top
of the line Titan processors. In fact, it actually has two processing
sequencers that can be run simultaneously, taking a lot of the time and
headaches out of getting a finished product.

But wait. I am not done yet.

We also have a Samick Grand Piano that we purchased several years ago. It's
not a digital piano. It's a 7' acoustic Grand, but when we bought it, we
had a system called a QRS Pianomation installed in it.

http://www.qrsmusic.com/pianomation.asp

The piano may be played normally, but you can also play proprietary, premade
QRS files through the Pianomation system that mechanically "plays" the piano
very similarly to the old player pianos that used paper rolls. The piano
keys are actually played like the old player pianos. It's wild to watch.

The QRS system replaces the paper rolls with digital data on a CD and feeds
it to the mechanical drives that operate the piano's keys, hammers, sustain
pedals, etc. It's pretty cool. The only problem with ours was that the
QRS file format, although very similar in concept to MIDI, is a different
format and .mid files will not play.
(I understand that the newer Pianomation systems will also recognize MIDI
files as well as QRS files, but ours does not)

Recently however, I found a simple and free program that converts MIDI to
QRS. It turns out that they are very similar, the difference being that
MIDI is all digital whereas QRS is, for lack of a better way of expressing
it, a type of analog/digital format. It operates digitally, but by using
analog tone shifts.
Whatever it is, it works.

So, now I can arrange performances on the Korg, store in standard midi, then
convert to QRS and play through the grand piano. The sound is that of the
acoustic piano in all it's glory. No amplifiers or speakers involved.

The beauty of these files is that they are very small, being just digital
instructions.
A recent 20 minute Christmas medley arranged on the Korg is only 77KB. I
can convert it to an MP3 or WAV file, but it would be over 100MB in size.

It may bore you to death, but here's the file. I put it together for Mrs.E.
because she loves hearing the piano playing in the house. It will play
through your computer's midi engine. Hopefully, you have a decent set of
speakers hooked up to your computer to get the best quality sound. But, you
have to imagine the same thing being played on a grand, acoustic piano that
does not depend on a sound card, engine or speakers to generate the tonal
quality. It sounds real, because it *is* real.

http://www.eisboch.com/chrismasmed08.mid

Eisboch




That's very nice! Really. I like it. It's playing in the background as I
type.

Could you do 'Pictures at an Exhibition' also, so I can see if my sound
system has the appropriate 'warmth'?
--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:56:50 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic
piano to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?


As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular"
non-electric piano to you because you are playing it on a computer,
using a computer sound module or board to produce the sound of a
piano. It can only sound as good as the type of sound board you have
and the speakers you hear it through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR
equipped one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular"
non-electric, grand piano. Because it is. The piano produces the
sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch



Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
audience’s perspective. Interpretation and performance skills can thus
be minutely monitored and refined.

• CEUS ensures recordings without any of the sound distortions
introduced by conventional audio systems (microphones, amplifiers,
speakers). Live-recordings from the concert hall are now able to be
realised with this instrument excluding the disturbing noises associated
with live performances.

• CD production recordings can be made and edited on your own
instrument. CD production can be continued in any sound studio equipped
with a CEUS system at any given time.

• CEUS is your partner of choice for long distance music production.
If you would like to play four-handed but you have only got two hands?
CEUS will be at your disposal.

• You already own a Bösendorfer grand and now you prefer a computer
controlled grand? CEUS can be built into all Bösendorfer grand pianos
(models 170 to 290). But don’t worry: the amazing Bösendorfer sound will
remain unchanged even after a customized fitting.
CEUS will work magic

You might perhaps feel like having someone else play for you and conjure
up the music of renowned pianists in your own living room. We will
compile for you a collection of select piano pieces. At one touch of the
remote control CEUS will work magic. Invisible hands will bring your
favourite music – recorded at the Vienna Musikverein – into your home.
Your friends will be amazed.

You are an Internet genius Harry. If you didn't have the Internet you
would be a catalog genius.

He keeps his Bösendorfer grand in his barn. Protected.
--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:56:50 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic
piano to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?

As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular"
non-electric piano to you because you are playing it on a computer,
using a computer sound module or board to produce the sound of a
piano. It can only sound as good as the type of sound board you have
and the speakers you hear it through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR
equipped one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular"
non-electric, grand piano. Because it is. The piano produces the
sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch


Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
audience’s perspective. Interpretation and performance skills can thus
be minutely monitored and refined.

• CEUS ensures recordings without any of the sound distortions
introduced by conventional audio systems (microphones, amplifiers,
speakers). Live-recordings from the concert hall are now able to be
realised with this instrument excluding the disturbing noises associated
with live performances.

• CD production recordings can be made and edited on your own
instrument. CD production can be continued in any sound studio equipped
with a CEUS system at any given time.

• CEUS is your partner of choice for long distance music production.
If you would like to play four-handed but you have only got two hands?
CEUS will be at your disposal.

• You already own a Bösendorfer grand and now you prefer a computer
controlled grand? CEUS can be built into all Bösendorfer grand pianos
(models 170 to 290). But don’t worry: the amazing Bösendorfer sound will
remain unchanged even after a customized fitting.
CEUS will work magic

You might perhaps feel like having someone else play for you and conjure
up the music of renowned pianists in your own living room. We will
compile for you a collection of select piano pieces. At one touch of the
remote control CEUS will work magic. Invisible hands will bring your
favourite music – recorded at the Vienna Musikverein – into your home.
Your friends will be amazed.
You are an Internet genius Harry. If you didn't have the Internet you
would be a catalog genius.

He keeps his Bösendorfer grand in his barn. Protected.


Where do you keep your "Christianity," Herring? In a place on your body
where the sun never shines?

P.S. I don't have a Bosendorfer grand piano, or any other grand piano.

Gates of Kiev
 

John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

It may bore you to death, but here's the file. I put it together for Mrs.E.
because she loves hearing the piano playing in the house. It will play
through your computer's midi engine. Hopefully, you have a decent set of
speakers hooked up to your computer to get the best quality sound. But, you
have to imagine the same thing being played on a grand, acoustic piano that
does not depend on a sound card, engine or speakers to generate the tonal
quality. It sounds real, because it *is* real.

http://www.eisboch.com/chrismasmed08.mid

Eisboch




Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!


Why don't you just go to a damned church?

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

It may bore you to death, but here's the file. I put it together for Mrs.E.
because she loves hearing the piano playing in the house. It will play
through your computer's midi engine. Hopefully, you have a decent set of
speakers hooked up to your computer to get the best quality sound. But, you
have to imagine the same thing being played on a grand, acoustic piano that
does not depend on a sound card, engine or speakers to generate the tonal
quality. It sounds real, because it *is* real.

http://www.eisboch.com/chrismasmed08.mid

Eisboch




Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!
--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch


Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:


Wow. Out of my league, that's for sure, but interesting stuff.

Our acoustic grand is located in a specially made alcove to the left as you
enter the main door of the house.
Traditionally, the older Victorian houses in Europe were designed like this
before the days of home stereos, TV's and iPods. The "music" alcove with a
piano or harpsichord was intended to welcome visitors and was the
entertainment area of the day.

We have a second living room area on the second floor. It has one of these
in it:

http://www.kawaius.com/main_links/di..._cp/cp207.html

It's ok, but getting a bit old technology wise. It *does* have a fairly
realistic grand piano sound (along with all the other midi type voices) but
it doesn't compare to the real thing.

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

"John" wrote in message
...



That's very nice! Really. I like it. It's playing in the background as I
type.

Could you do 'Pictures at an Exhibition' also, so I can see if my sound
system has the appropriate 'warmth'?
--
John


Sure. As soon as I get a round tuit.

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

On Dec 11, 10:38*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:





Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk
tunes, are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There
are also tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo
piano. As such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play
collection of piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the
Ravel orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few
decades to performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano
superstars. This modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written*
by Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.

I am not cultured enough to prefer Pictures at an Exhibition "as
written". *I have always thought the piano version is nice, but
different, sort of "Pictures at an Exhibition Unplugged". *Since the
music was written to be played at his friends art exhibit, it would
have been difficult to get an orchestra in the small gallery, so
Mussorgsky didn't have that option. *If you look at Mussorgsky other
compositions, I would guess he would have enjoyed the heavy and
overwrought Orchestrated version. *If there EVER was a piece of music
that was HEAVY *and OVERWROUGHT, it is Night on Bald Mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0GekZl7YA

I have enjoyed Night on Bald Music since I heard it in Disney's
Fantasia, and that when I thought it was written by Disney.

I am just a boorish uncouth type of guy who knows what he likes, and
would never know what music to listen to on high tech speakers and
what music to listen to on old regular speakers. *On top of that you
need to about what decade the music was recorded,

I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined.

Life isn't easy for the likes of you.

That piece of music you like from the famous Disney cartoon is not
Night on Bald Mountain. It is Night on Bare Mountain.

Damn, I learn something new all the time. *If you had not pointed that
out, I would never have known. *You may want to contact Disney about
this because they are selling the Walt Disney's Fantasia: Remastered
Original Soundtrack official but they included *A Night on Bald Mountain
by Mussorgsky, instead of Night on Bare Mountain. *They must not be a
flaunt in translating Russian as you are. *Night on Bald Mountain and
Night on Bare Mountain are the exact same music, it is a difference in
translation of the Russian.

"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.

I know, I try to enjoy life and not worry trying to be pompous or if I
am listening to music on the correct speakers. * Jeez, you really are
funny. *I would enjoy meeting you in real life, I would lay 10 to 1 odds
that you are real mousy reserved type of guy. *I have never known anyone
who tries so desperately seeks approval.

I was trying to lead you down the path of righteousness, since you
seem to prefer the Ravel "Pictures," which is kind of silly.

The original title given the work by its composer include the descriptor
"Bare," not "Bold." Another Russian composer "messed" with the original
Mussorgsky, and that adaptation of Mussorgsky's work, along with some of
the "original" was the basis of the work Stokowski "arranged" for the movie.

I'm sure you can google up something in conflict. That's your stock in
trade, right? I mean, you don't seem to actually know anything.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Holy COW!!! Harry demeaning someone for googling!!!!!!
That's all he does!!!!

Gates of Kiev
 

On Dec 11, 10:48*am, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic piano
to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?

As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular" non-electric
piano to you because you are playing it on a computer, using a computer
sound module or board to produce the sound of a piano. *It can only sound as
good as the type of sound board you have and the speakers you hear it
through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR equipped
one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular" non-electric, grand
piano. *Because it is. *The piano produces the sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch

Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

*Fromwww.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
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In your words:
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in
trade, right? I mean, you don't seem to actually know anything."

Gates of Kiev
 

On Dec 11, 10:04*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
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This from one of the most vulgar, nasty fat low life vermin in
rec.boats.

Gates of Kiev
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...

John wrote:

Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent
Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!




Why don't you just go to a damned church?


You really are something else Harry.
Predictable as hell, but something else ....

I have a suggestion for you. If you don't like traditional Christmas Carols
or hymns, don't load them in your iPod. Otherwise, let people enjoy what
*they* enjoy.

Sometimes you really are a jerk.

I am not a religious person. But I respect the rights of others that are,
and I respect the goodness that comes from some people at this time of year,
of all religious faiths or even those just getting caught up in a holiday
spirit.

Right now Mrs.E. and one of her very religious girlfriends are downstairs
planning the final details for an open house event here this Sunday where
they will be collecting gift donations for a children's homeless (and
parentless) shelter in Plymouth. Even though it's sponsored by Mrs.E.'s
girlfriend's church, my wife is excited about doing something worthwhile
(and she's not a church goer either). They'll have refreshments, music and
Holiday Cheer.

It's really the reason I made the Christmas Melody file to be played on the
piano as background music.

Ho Ho Ho.

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

John wrote:

Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent
Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!



Do you want them as piano solo's?

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

John wrote:
Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent
Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!



Why don't you just go to a damned church?


You really are something else Harry.
Predictable as hell, but something else ....

I have a suggestion for you. If you don't like traditional Christmas Carols
or hymns, don't load them in your iPod. Otherwise, let people enjoy what
*they* enjoy.


I don't think you get it. I *like* some "Chrismas music." In fact, there
are dozens of examples of religious music, Christian and Jewish, that I
enjoy.

It's the unctuous religious sliminess of Herring I find offensive.

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:51:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build up
to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf who
liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to "cuddle".
She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I thought
some of you may want to try this out.

Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand the
relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the 1812
Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?

The composers are both Russian, they are just very intense. ;)

Don't you clowns know anything?

Both were ripped off Bach when he was asked to compose a salutory
orchestral piece to celebrate the begining of the American Revolution
- he did and it was called the "1712 Overture".

Listen and learn.

http://www.swsports.org/Music/Track%2002%20%5b1%5d.mp3

Dang - you guys need to get some edjumakshun.

Gates of Kiev
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...


I don't think you get it. I *like* some "Chrismas music." In fact, there
are dozens of examples of religious music, Christian and Jewish, that I
enjoy.

It's the unctuous religious sliminess of Herring I find offensive.


Well, here. Here's a special holiday dedication, just for you.

http://www.eisboch.com/turkey.mid

Eisboch

Gates of Kiev
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:51:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
After listening to Tacobell's music, it made me think about another
favorite selection of mine.

Turn the music up loud and get ready to be taken over by the force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JjN...eature=related

Even if you don't like classical music, you will like this. Sort of like
the 1812 Overture. Make sure you listen to the slow repetitive build up
to the crescendo.


This song has particularly memories for me because I had a college gf who
liked to put on Pictures at an Exhibition when she would want to "cuddle".
She would insist we make it last to at least the Great Gates of Kiev.

I am sure this falls into the Too Much Information category, but I thought
some of you may want to try this out.
Thanks! I had never heard it or of it. I don't quite understand the
relationship of the Gates of Kiev orchestration and that of the 1812
Overture. They share many of the same passages. Who copied who?
The composers are both Russian, they are just very intense. ;)

Don't you clowns know anything?

Both were ripped off Bach when he was asked to compose a salutory
orchestral piece to celebrate the begining of the American Revolution
- he did and it was called the "1712 Overture".

Listen and learn.

http://www.swsports.org/Music/Track%2002%20%5b1%5d.mp3

Dang - you guys need to get some edjumakshun.



Must have been either C.P.E. Bach or his
great-great-great-whatever-grandson, P.D.Q. Bach.

Any educamated Bush voter would know J.S. Bach died in 1750.

Gates of Kiev
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

I don't think you get it. I *like* some "Chrismas music." In fact, there
are dozens of examples of religious music, Christian and Jewish, that I
enjoy.

It's the unctuous religious sliminess of Herring I find offensive.


Well, here. Here's a special holiday dedication, just for you.

http://www.eisboch.com/turkey.mid

Eisboch




Is that you on the Zildjians?

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:42:57 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John" wrote in message
.. .



That's very nice! Really. I like it. It's playing in the background as I
type.

Could you do 'Pictures at an Exhibition' also, so I can see if my sound
system has the appropriate 'warmth'?
--
John


Sure. As soon as I get a round tuit.

Eisboch


Here ya go...

http://www.shopmyrtlewood.com/popup....T/large/T1.jpg

....and TIA!


--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

On Dec 11, 12:16*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:59:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:04*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This from one of the most vulgar, nasty fat low life vermin in
rec.boats.

Liar!

You should probably just go give your lover Harry a BJ instead of
posting this every single time. It makes you look dumber than you
possibly could be and still be able to use a computer.

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:59:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

John wrote:

Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent
Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!




Why don't you just go to a damned church?


You really are something else Harry.
Predictable as hell, but something else ....

I have a suggestion for you. If you don't like traditional Christmas Carols
or hymns, don't load them in your iPod. Otherwise, let people enjoy what
*they* enjoy.

Sometimes you really are a jerk.

I am not a religious person. But I respect the rights of others that are,
and I respect the goodness that comes from some people at this time of year,
of all religious faiths or even those just getting caught up in a holiday
spirit.

Right now Mrs.E. and one of her very religious girlfriends are downstairs
planning the final details for an open house event here this Sunday where
they will be collecting gift donations for a children's homeless (and
parentless) shelter in Plymouth. Even though it's sponsored by Mrs.E.'s
girlfriend's church, my wife is excited about doing something worthwhile
(and she's not a church goer either). They'll have refreshments, music and
Holiday Cheer.

It's really the reason I made the Christmas Melody file to be played on the
piano as background music.

Ho Ho Ho.

Eisboch


My wife's church has an 'Angel Tree' in the lobby. On the tree were
'Angels' which were slips of paper with the first name and some necessary
details about a child in the area from a poor family. The slips also
included the child's 'Christmas List', a couple toys and clothing, for the
most part. There were about ninety 'Angels' on the tree for people to take.
The tree soon emptied, and now the bags with the gifts are under the tree.

My wife got such tremendous pleasure in buying those gifts. Much more, I
believe, than the pleasure in buying the gifts for our grandkids.

It's the 'spirit' of Christmas that's important and joyful. I'm probably
about as 'religious' as you are (well, maybe a tad more), and I feel the
same way about the holiday spirit.
--
John

Gates of Kiev
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:12:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



John wrote:

Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent
Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!



Do you want them as piano solo's?

Eisboch


The way you did the last batch was beautiful!
--
John