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Calif Bill December 17th 08 02:00 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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Another radio editorial:

MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08

Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.

-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.

-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.

-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.

And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----

“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”

Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal crime
and then he can pardon himself.


Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself.....
LOL!



[email protected] December 19th 08 02:09 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
On Dec 16, 9:00*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message


...
Another radio editorial:


MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08


Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.


-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.


-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.


-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.


And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----


“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”


Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal crime
and then he can pardon himself.


Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself.....
LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, it looks like Blago is going to get away with it as a "joke"...
The Dems (surprise, surprise) are going to fight to keep him in
office. Like I said, if it was a repub, he would already be out...

Tim December 19th 08 02:38 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
On Dec 18, 8:09*pm, wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:00*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



"Tim" wrote in message


....
On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


....
Another radio editorial:


MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08


Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.


-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.


-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.


-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.


And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----


“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”


Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal crime
and then he can pardon himself.


Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself.....
LOL!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, it looks like Blago is going to get away with it as a "joke"...
The Dems (surprise, surprise) are going to fight to keep him in
office. Like I said, if it was a repub, he would already be out...


Well, One thing I've wondered. Objectively speaking, was a crime
really committed? I've thought about this and he *tried* to sell the
senate seat, but was nabbed before any cash 'n prizes changed hands.

Don't take me wrong, I think he's an unethical scumbag and always
have. Really. And offering is a sin, but is it a crime?

Actually i think he should be outed because we're tired of his crap.
But that probably won't happen.

[email protected] December 19th 08 02:44 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
On Dec 18, 9:38*pm, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:09*pm, wrote:





On Dec 16, 9:00*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


....
On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...
Another radio editorial:


MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08


Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.


-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.


-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.


-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.


And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----


“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”


Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal crime
and then he can pardon himself.


Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself.....
LOL!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, it looks like Blago is going to get away with it as a "joke"...
The Dems (surprise, surprise) are going to fight to keep him in
office. Like I said, if it was a repub, he would already be out...


Well, One thing I've wondered. Objectively speaking, was a crime
really committed? I've thought about this and he *tried* to sell the
senate seat, but was nabbed before any cash 'n prizes changed hands.

Don't take me wrong, I think he's an unethical scumbag and always
have. Really. And offering is a sin, but is it a crime?

Actually i think he should be outed because we're tired of his crap.
But that probably won't happen.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My point is if it was a R in front of his name, he would be gone
already. Democrats will re-elect him to any office the DNC provides
for him... Sad really..

Tim December 19th 08 02:49 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
On Dec 18, 8:44*pm, wrote:
On Dec 18, 9:38*pm, Tim wrote:



On Dec 18, 8:09*pm, wrote:


On Dec 16, 9:00*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...
On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...
Another radio editorial:


MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08


Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.


-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.


-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.


-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.


And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----


“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”


Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal crime
and then he can pardon himself.


Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself......
LOL!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, it looks like Blago is going to get away with it as a "joke"...
The Dems (surprise, surprise) are going to fight to keep him in
office. Like I said, if it was a repub, he would already be out...


Well, One thing I've wondered. Objectively speaking, was a crime
really committed? I've thought about this and he *tried* to sell the
senate seat, but was nabbed before any cash 'n prizes changed hands.


Don't take me wrong, I think he's an unethical scumbag and always
have. Really. And offering is a sin, but is it a crime?


Actually i think he should be outed because we're tired of his crap.
But that probably won't happen.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


My point is if it was a R in front of his name, he would be gone
already. Democrats will re-elect him to any office the DNC provides
for him... Sad really..


I'd probably agree. but the local state politicians r & d both have a
distaste for him. I mean the guy had a 12% public approval rating and
still thought he was doing a fine job. fo the fed DNC might have
something cooking for him, but locally I think he should be cooked as
in deep fried.

[email protected] December 19th 08 02:53 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
On Dec 18, 9:49*pm, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:44*pm, wrote:





On Dec 18, 9:38*pm, Tim wrote:


On Dec 18, 8:09*pm, wrote:


On Dec 16, 9:00*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...
On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...
Another radio editorial:


MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08


Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.


-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.


-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.


-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.


And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----


“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”


Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal crime
and then he can pardon himself.


Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself......
LOL!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, it looks like Blago is going to get away with it as a "joke"....
The Dems (surprise, surprise) are going to fight to keep him in
office. Like I said, if it was a repub, he would already be out...


Well, One thing I've wondered. Objectively speaking, was a crime
really committed? I've thought about this and he *tried* to sell the
senate seat, but was nabbed before any cash 'n prizes changed hands.


Don't take me wrong, I think he's an unethical scumbag and always
have. Really. And offering is a sin, but is it a crime?


Actually i think he should be outed because we're tired of his crap.
But that probably won't happen.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


My point is if it was a R in front of his name, he would be gone
already. Democrats will re-elect him to any office the DNC provides
for him... Sad really..


I'd probably agree. but the local state politicians r & d both have a
distaste for him. I mean the guy had a 12% public approval rating and
still thought he was doing a fine job. fo the fed DNC might have
something cooking for him, but locally I think he should be cooked as
in deep fried.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Lemme see... Blago, Ayres, Wright, Resko, Jackson, and who is that
white preacher idiot? Geeze, what if there was one connection between
all of them? Oh wait, there is! Obama!

Boater[_3_] December 19th 08 03:22 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:44 pm, wrote:
On Dec 18, 9:38 pm, Tim wrote:



On Dec 18, 8:09 pm, wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:00 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
Another radio editorial:
MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08
Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.
-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.
-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.
-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.
And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----
“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”
Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal crime
and then he can pardon himself.
Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself.....
LOL!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, it looks like Blago is going to get away with it as a "joke"...
The Dems (surprise, surprise) are going to fight to keep him in
office. Like I said, if it was a repub, he would already be out...
Well, One thing I've wondered. Objectively speaking, was a crime
really committed? I've thought about this and he *tried* to sell the
senate seat, but was nabbed before any cash 'n prizes changed hands.
Don't take me wrong, I think he's an unethical scumbag and always
have. Really. And offering is a sin, but is it a crime?
Actually i think he should be outed because we're tired of his crap.
But that probably won't happen.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

My point is if it was a R in front of his name, he would be gone
already. Democrats will re-elect him to any office the DNC provides
for him... Sad really..


I'd probably agree. but the local state politicians r & d both have a
distaste for him. I mean the guy had a 12% public approval rating and
still thought he was doing a fine job. fo the fed DNC might have
something cooking for him, but locally I think he should be cooked as
in deep fried.



JustHate's only point is the one on top of his head.

Calif Bill December 19th 08 04:06 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 8:09 pm, wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:00 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



"Tim" wrote in message


...
On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...
Another radio editorial:


MANAGER'S MEMO 12/16/08


Blagogate enters its second week with plenty to ponder. Like last
week…let me hit some key points to consider as this stain widens.


-The silence of former Illinois Congressman and the proposed chief of
staff to the president-elect, Rahm Emanuel, certainly is deafening.
Emanuel once bragged that he and Obama had masterminded Rob
Blagojevich's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Now he is dodging reporters
and offering zero comment. It is logical that Emanuel had
conversations with Hot Rod…..nothing wrong there. The silence is
probably because Emanuel is all over the wire taps. Anything he says
now --can't dispute what appears on the tapes….which are sure to be
released eventually.


-On another front I continue to see the national media go completely
into the tank for the incoming president. Remember when the GOP named
Sarah Palin as VP? Remember the dozens of reporters and investigators
that rushed to tiny Wasilla, Alaska to find dirt? Good grief, they
were relentless. But look where Obama cut his teeth? Chicago,
Illinois--- Where graft is a birthright. And yet, there was woefully
little reporting on Obama's rise through the southside of the windy
city.


-Who is the sitting Governor meeting these days? One day he is meeting
with a group of ministers and the next he is meeting with rapper R.
Kelly's attorney. What an interesting lesson in diversity….One day
breaking bread with the monsignor and asking for forgiveness…and the
next asking a criminal lawyer how to cut the best deal to save his own
skin…..What an interesting life.


And finally, I received an e-mail from an Illinois native last
week….and this is what it said on the bottom of the
message-----“quote” -----


“Being a native Illinoisan means being a “can-do” person. Heck, even
our Governors roll up their sleeves and make license plates.”


Maybe Blago is trying to make it a state crime instead of a Federal
crime
and then he can pardon himself.


Well, locals have already discussed what he can do with himself.....
LOL!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, it looks like Blago is going to get away with it as a "joke"...
The Dems (surprise, surprise) are going to fight to keep him in
office. Like I said, if it was a repub, he would already be out...


Well, One thing I've wondered. Objectively speaking, was a crime
really committed? I've thought about this and he *tried* to sell the
senate seat, but was nabbed before any cash 'n prizes changed hands.

Don't take me wrong, I think he's an unethical scumbag and always
have. Really. And offering is a sin, but is it a crime?

Actually i think he should be outed because we're tired of his crap.
But that probably won't happen.

Most likely a crime. Conspiracy to commit a crime is criminal even if the
crime is not committed. But the question is: "Is it illegal to sell a
senate seat."?



[email protected] December 19th 08 10:41 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:06:06 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


Most likely a crime. Conspiracy to commit a crime is criminal even if
the crime is not committed. But the question is: "Is it illegal to sell
a senate seat."?


IANAL, but, yes, I think. ;-) The first count against Blagojevich is
written, in part, "in a scheme to defraud the State of Illinois and the
people of the State of Illinois of the honest services of Rod R.
Blagojevich". So, I'm guessing selling a Senate seat constitutes fraud.
It becomes Federal because they used mails and interstate wire
communications.


Vic Smith December 19th 08 11:34 AM

Blagojevich just wanted a job with a labor union...
 
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:06:06 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


Most likely a crime. Conspiracy to commit a crime is criminal even if the
crime is not committed. But the question is: "Is it illegal to sell a
senate seat."?

Hell no. If it's an appointment it's an appointment.
Look what's going on with Hillary's seat.
Deals are being cut.
Blago's mistake was getting taped cussing.
Made Honest Abe roll over in his grave, according to Fitz.
He had no business saying that, so he weakened his case.
A fed prosecutor or AG can, as they say, "indict a ham sandwich."
They'll get Blago on something.
Maybe running on somebody's restricted grass while jogging.
But unless he got personal cash or property he's just another
politician.
Anybody see that Fox news bit on Hastert's land jumping in value
because of that pork highway project he pushed through?
Talk about a crook.
If you ever have to get a scam redressed, go to your state AG.
My ma got taken by a chimney shaker some years ago, and me and
my BIL and a couple buddies were almost on the way to the guy's
offices with baseball bats, when my sis got on the phone with the AG.
My ma had her money back that week, and our bats never got scratched.
Rule of law, man, rule of law.
These AG's and Fed prosecutors are often the biggest goody 2-shoes
on earth. Like bulldogs with the law. Good for them.
Then you got your Spitzers.

--Vic


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