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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... We say "Chanukah Sameach" to each other, and Merry Christmas to goys who celebrate Christmas. I guess to some we should just say, I hope you got some nice presents for Dec. 25th. My younger son married a Jewish girl. What a blast we all have at this time of year celebrating both Christmas and Chanukah. Both her family and ours celebrate both our traditional Christmas activities as well as their traditional Jewish traditions and celebrations. It has made the holiday season much more interesting, educational, enjoyable and just plain fun. And the food is awesome. Eisboch The best of both worlds. If you had a family member marry an Italian it would be a perfect Trifecta. Talk about some great parties. ;) |
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Boater wrote:
John Sure, just go by any Chinese restaurant on Dec.25th and you will find all the restaurant full of Jews. It is a tradition that goes back almost 6000 yrs. ;) http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/...20Chinese.html If you are seeing Jews in "any Chinese restaurant," they certainly are not observant Jews. Observant Jews eat in Kosher restaurants, and while there any Kosher Chinese restaurants, very few of them are. I guess it all depends upon your definition of Observant Jews doesn't it. The Jewish love affair with Chinese food According to a venerable borsht-circuit gag, the Jewish civilization began in 3,000 B.C., and the Chinese civilization began in 2,000 B.C., which proves that Jews can exist without eating Chinese food. The historical accuracy may be flawed, but the joke does underscore the curious passion that American Jews have developed for the Chinese cuisine. That passion, of course, is shared by much of the Occidental world. The distinctive savoriness and varied textures of Chinese food, its sensual appeal, and the unique cooking techniques employed in Chinese kitchens to accentuate flavors and aromas have excited the Western palate and made Chinese cooking universally popular. But nowhere is the infatuation with the Chinese cuisine more intense than in the American Jewish community. Chinese restaurateurs recognize this phenomenon, and their establishments have proliferated in the U.S. wherever there is a sizable Jewish population. The Chinese restaurant has become a durable fixture in most Jewish neighborhoods, almost as commonplace as a kosher butcher shop. The Jewish enchantment with Chinese food has also surfaced in Israel, where Chinese restaurants now compete against falafel stands, European-style delicatessens, and other outlets of traditional Jewish cooking. Actually, there is no single standard Jewish cuisine. Historically, Jews have borrowed the foods of the people among whom they dwell, modified in each case by the requirements of kashrut, the religious dietary laws. As a result, there are various styles of "Jewish cooking": Eastern- and Central-European Ashkenazi types such as Russian-Jewish, Hungarian-Jewish and Romanian-Jewish, plus the Mediterranean or Sephardi-Jewish style of cooking. Chinese cooking features ingredients and techniques that are alien to each of these. For example, the quick-searing and stir-frying cooking methods perfected by the Chinese create new dimensions of taste wholly dissimilar to the potted and stewed meats and vegetables with which most Jews are familiar. The subtle but profound nuances of flavor and aroma emphasized in Chinese food, the exotic vegetables and condiments, and the preoccupation with the textural effects and color of food are virtually unknown in the Jewish kitchen. And yet the Jew finds that the lure of the exotic is eased by the touch of the familiar in the Chinese cuisine. Most significant, the Chinese rarely combine dairy and meat products, a practice prohibited by religious Jewish dietary laws. Omnipresent pots of tea invariably grace the tables of both the Chinese and the Jews. The two cuisines favor such common dishes as chicken broth with rice or noodles, and--with the exception of the Szechuan and Hunanese styles--both have a preference for mild seasonings. Kreplach, a triangular or square dumpling containing chopped meat and usually served in soup, which is a popular Eastern-European Jewish delicacy, is a first cousin to wontons, a Cantonese miniature dumpling used in soup or is deep-fried and eaten as a snack. The taste of stuffed cabbage, another Eastern-European Jewish favorite, resembles the array of sweet and sour dishes prepared by the Chinese. In addition, the noodles or luckshen, which figure prominently in Jewish food, have a counterpart in Chinese lo mein. Going beyond considerations of the table, those seeking explanations for the Jewish passion for Chinese food might find special meanings in certain cultural values shared by both peoples: the strong family structure, the respect for learning, the powerful work ethic. There are even intriguing historical links between the Chinese and the Jews. The first Jews, probably merchants from Persia, visited and settled in China around the year 1,000. Their descendants, Oriental in appearance and bearing Chinese names, continued to practice the Jewish religion. In the 13th Century, Marco Polo found several influential Jews at the court of Kubla Khan. Four centuries later, a Jewish mandarin rebuilt a synagogue in the city of Kaifeng, which had been originally constructed hundreds of years earlier. Built like two adjacent Buddhist temples, the synagogue fell into disuse as the community disappeared during the 18th and 19th Centuries. An exquisite model of the Kaifeng synagogue now stands in Beit Hafutzot, the Museum of the Diaspora in Tel Aviv. Although such bits of historical and sociological evidence demonstrate that there is a cultural affinity between the Chinese and Jewish peoples, it is highly unlikely that any of these factors have had a profound culinary impact. The Jewish love for Chinese food is essentially an American phenomenon. It has probably been fostered by the ease with which the intricacies of the Chinese cuisine can be adapted to religious Jewish dietary rules. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote: John Sure, just go by any Chinese restaurant on Dec.25th and you will find all the restaurant full of Jews. It is a tradition that goes back almost 6000 yrs. ;) http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/...20Chinese.html If you are seeing Jews in "any Chinese restaurant," they certainly are not observant Jews. Observant Jews eat in Kosher restaurants, and while there any Kosher Chinese restaurants, very few of them are. I guess it all depends upon your definition of Observant Jews doesn't it. Observant Jews keep Kosher, among other things. Most Chinese restaurants are not Kosher. |
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:55:22 -0500, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... John wrote: You totally disregarded the point of my response. Do you ever consider that the insults may be fewer if you controlled your behavior? I'm not saying they'd stop, but those that are hurled simply in retaliation would diminish greatly. I've considered that, and I've concluded the majority of "jackals" are that way because of my politics. There's your mistake. There are many in this NG that share your political views and they are not routinely dumped on. Most of the time differing points of views are discussed rationally, politely and with respect for one another. In your case it is often very different. You tend to lump everybody who does not subscribe to your POV together (with minor tolerances) and generally treat those in disagreement with distain, punctuated with multiple insults. It's not what you think, it's how you express it to others. Eisboch Whatever. If that is agreement, then it is contrary to what you said earlier. But, that could be a good thing. Maybe it's worth acting on? -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:21:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:34:41 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:09:38 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:43 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:17:56 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: Your agreement is acceptable on a one-to-one basis. To go beyond the two of us, your compadres would have to agree. Bull****. Learn to disregard the personal insults directed towards you. Have you seen me respond to any of the Salty or that other guy's attacks? No, not lately. You decide to ignore them. It can be done. Hell, I've gone for a couple weeks without responding to any of your ****, even though you've directed a couple dozen posts a day towards me. I'll ignore the attacks by Donnie and those other friends of yours. Easy as pie. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John As I stated, I will enter into and honor a one-to-one agreement with you. If others decide to join in, I will extend them the same courtesy. Quid pro quo. It's the *Christian* thing to do, don't you agree? I think you're lacking in the will power department. You whine about folks attacking you, but you won't stop. I'll be glad to do the Christian, and Jewish, thing. I'll stop *all* personal insults if you'll do the same. Do you find it too hard to ignore the attacks of others? Can you not participate in *any* discussion without resorting to name-calling? -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John Actually, most of jackals are permanent members of my bozo bin, and will never be allowed out. The permanent members include but are not limited to Loogy, DK, FloridaJim, et cetera. But that's not the point. I'm not lacking in will power on this issue, I'm simply unwilling to extend "good will" to those unwilling to do the same. Having all those folks filtered should make it easy. No one is suggesting you 'extend good will' to anyone. I'm suggesting you stop extending *bad* will to *anyone*. Do you see the difference? Look at your statement above: "Most of the jackals are permanent members..." If you had omitted the word 'jackals', you would have gotten the same message across, but without the personal insult. It's not that difficult. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John I call 'em as I see 'em. If they are in the bozo bin, they are there because about all they do here is toss insults. Jackals. You totally disregarded the point of my response. Do you ever consider that the insults may be fewer if you controlled your behavior? I'm not saying they'd stop, but those that are hurled simply in retaliation would diminish greatly. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John We say "Chanukah Sameach" to each other, and Merry Christmas to goys who celebrate Christmas. I guess to some we should just say, I hope you got some nice presents for Dec. 25th. No, it would be, "Hope you get some nice presents for Winter Solstice." -- I think you should only say that if they celebrate on the Winter Solstice, in 2008 that would be Dec. 21st, on the 22nd in 2009 and the 23rd in 2010, when it would go back to Dec. 21. So, those who open presents on Dec. 25 and are not Christians are really just celebrating Dec. 25th. I think Festivus and Winter Solstice makes a lot more sense than just opening presents because the Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ. Imagine what would happen if all the Chinese celebrated Christmas on Dec.25? Where would all the Jews go to eat on Dec. 25th. We would have to eat at home, and that is against our religion. ;) Now that's something I didn't know. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John Sure, just go by any Chinese restaurant on Dec.25th and you will find all the restaurant full of Jews. It is a tradition that goes back almost 6000 yrs. ;) http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/...20Chinese.html If you are seeing Jews in "any Chinese restaurant," they certainly are not observant Jews. Observant Jews eat in Kosher restaurants, and while there any Kosher Chinese restaurants, very few of them are. PS - There are more sects and diverse opinion among those who consider themselves Jewish than there are among Christians. Yet, all of them consider themselves observant Jews. Are you now going to tell Jews that the only ones who can be considered "Observant Jews" are those who observe all 613 mitzvot? If so, you would not find one Jew in the entire world. I do find it funny that you, who said you are not Jewish, know more about the Chosen People than most Jews. There is an old joke that if you locked a 100 rabbis in a room and they would not be let out until they had written a book on what it means to be Jewish, they could not agree on the first sentence. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... We say "Chanukah Sameach" to each other, and Merry Christmas to goys who celebrate Christmas. I guess to some we should just say, I hope you got some nice presents for Dec. 25th. My younger son married a Jewish girl. What a blast we all have at this time of year celebrating both Christmas and Chanukah. Both her family and ours celebrate both our traditional Christmas activities as well as their traditional Jewish traditions and celebrations. It has made the holiday season much more interesting, educational, enjoyable and just plain fun. And the food is awesome. Eisboch The best of both worlds. If you had a family member marry an Italian it would be a perfect Trifecta. Talk about some great parties. ;) I did. Well, 2nd generation American-Italian. But, she's all Italian in terms of her family and tradition. Nobody gave a guy with Swedish ancestry and a girl with Italian much of a chance 39 years ago. Still working on it. Eisboch |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: John Sure, just go by any Chinese restaurant on Dec.25th and you will find all the restaurant full of Jews. It is a tradition that goes back almost 6000 yrs. ;) http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/...20Chinese.html If you are seeing Jews in "any Chinese restaurant," they certainly are not observant Jews. Observant Jews eat in Kosher restaurants, and while there any Kosher Chinese restaurants, very few of them are. I guess it all depends upon your definition of Observant Jews doesn't it. Observant Jews keep Kosher, among other things. Most Chinese restaurants are not Kosher. Who gave you that definition of an Observant Jew? If so, you really do need to get all the Jews together and let them know you have finally come up with a definitive answer to the principals of faith for Judaism. After 6000 yrs, we have been working on this concept, we have no unifying body governing Jewish beliefs, but we have been saved because Harry Krause, a goy has come up with the answer. You need to eat Kosher to be a Jew. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... We say "Chanukah Sameach" to each other, and Merry Christmas to goys who celebrate Christmas. I guess to some we should just say, I hope you got some nice presents for Dec. 25th. My younger son married a Jewish girl. What a blast we all have at this time of year celebrating both Christmas and Chanukah. Both her family and ours celebrate both our traditional Christmas activities as well as their traditional Jewish traditions and celebrations. It has made the holiday season much more interesting, educational, enjoyable and just plain fun. And the food is awesome. Eisboch The best of both worlds. If you had a family member marry an Italian it would be a perfect Trifecta. Talk about some great parties. ;) I did. Well, 2nd generation American-Italian. But, she's all Italian in terms of her family and tradition. Nobody gave a guy with Swedish ancestry and a girl with Italian much of a chance 39 years ago. Still working on it. Eisboch You hit the mother lode. Congratulations |
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:21:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:34:41 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:09:38 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:43 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:17:56 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: Your agreement is acceptable on a one-to-one basis. To go beyond the two of us, your compadres would have to agree. Bull****. Learn to disregard the personal insults directed towards you. Have you seen me respond to any of the Salty or that other guy's attacks? No, not lately. You decide to ignore them. It can be done. Hell, I've gone for a couple weeks without responding to any of your ****, even though you've directed a couple dozen posts a day towards me. I'll ignore the attacks by Donnie and those other friends of yours. Easy as pie. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John As I stated, I will enter into and honor a one-to-one agreement with you. If others decide to join in, I will extend them the same courtesy. Quid pro quo. It's the *Christian* thing to do, don't you agree? I think you're lacking in the will power department. You whine about folks attacking you, but you won't stop. I'll be glad to do the Christian, and Jewish, thing. I'll stop *all* personal insults if you'll do the same. Do you find it too hard to ignore the attacks of others? Can you not participate in *any* discussion without resorting to name-calling? -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John Actually, most of jackals are permanent members of my bozo bin, and will never be allowed out. The permanent members include but are not limited to Loogy, DK, FloridaJim, et cetera. But that's not the point. I'm not lacking in will power on this issue, I'm simply unwilling to extend "good will" to those unwilling to do the same. Having all those folks filtered should make it easy. No one is suggesting you 'extend good will' to anyone. I'm suggesting you stop extending *bad* will to *anyone*. Do you see the difference? Look at your statement above: "Most of the jackals are permanent members..." If you had omitted the word 'jackals', you would have gotten the same message across, but without the personal insult. It's not that difficult. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John I call 'em as I see 'em. If they are in the bozo bin, they are there because about all they do here is toss insults. Jackals. You totally disregarded the point of my response. Do you ever consider that the insults may be fewer if you controlled your behavior? I'm not saying they'd stop, but those that are hurled simply in retaliation would diminish greatly. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John We say "Chanukah Sameach" to each other, and Merry Christmas to goys who celebrate Christmas. I guess to some we should just say, I hope you got some nice presents for Dec. 25th. No, it would be, "Hope you get some nice presents for Winter Solstice." -- I think you should only say that if they celebrate on the Winter Solstice, in 2008 that would be Dec. 21st, on the 22nd in 2009 and the 23rd in 2010, when it would go back to Dec. 21. So, those who open presents on Dec. 25 and are not Christians are really just celebrating Dec. 25th. I think Festivus and Winter Solstice makes a lot more sense than just opening presents because the Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ. Imagine what would happen if all the Chinese celebrated Christmas on Dec.25? Where would all the Jews go to eat on Dec. 25th. We would have to eat at home, and that is against our religion. ;) Now that's something I didn't know. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John Sure, just go by any Chinese restaurant on Dec.25th and you will find all the restaurant full of Jews. It is a tradition that goes back almost 6000 yrs. ;) http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/...20Chinese.html If you are seeing Jews in "any Chinese restaurant," they certainly are not observant Jews. Observant Jews eat in Kosher restaurants, and while there any Kosher Chinese restaurants, very few of them are. PS - There are more sects and diverse opinion among those who consider themselves Jewish than there are among Christians. Yet, all of them consider themselves observant Jews. Are you now going to tell Jews that the only ones who can be considered "Observant Jews" are those who observe all 613 mitzvot? If so, you would not find one Jew in the entire world. I do find it funny that you, who said you are not Jewish, know more about the Chosen People than most Jews. There is an old joke that if you locked a 100 rabbis in a room and they would not be let out until they had written a book on what it means to be Jewish, they could not agree on the first sentence. I grew up in a city that at the time had a very high percentage of Jews, and am more than a little familiar with Jewish observances, customs, traditions, et cetera. The observant Jews were the Orthodox and Conservative "sect" Jews, the ones who went to synagogues on Friday nights and Saturdays, who kept Kosher, and whose children went to Hebrew school several times a week, among other things. I'm not discussing "cultural" Jews. Of course, I know nothing about Atlanta Jews. |
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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:21:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:34:41 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:09:38 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:01:43 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:17:56 -0500, Boater wrote: John wrote: Your agreement is acceptable on a one-to-one basis. To go beyond the two of us, your compadres would have to agree. Bull****. Learn to disregard the personal insults directed towards you. Have you seen me respond to any of the Salty or that other guy's attacks? No, not lately. You decide to ignore them. It can be done. Hell, I've gone for a couple weeks without responding to any of your ****, even though you've directed a couple dozen posts a day towards me. I'll ignore the attacks by Donnie and those other friends of yours. Easy as pie. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John As I stated, I will enter into and honor a one-to-one agreement with you. If others decide to join in, I will extend them the same courtesy. Quid pro quo. It's the *Christian* thing to do, don't you agree? I think you're lacking in the will power department. You whine about folks attacking you, but you won't stop. I'll be glad to do the Christian, and Jewish, thing. I'll stop *all* personal insults if you'll do the same. Do you find it too hard to ignore the attacks of others? Can you not participate in *any* discussion without resorting to name-calling? -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John Actually, most of jackals are permanent members of my bozo bin, and will never be allowed out. The permanent members include but are not limited to Loogy, DK, FloridaJim, et cetera. But that's not the point. I'm not lacking in will power on this issue, I'm simply unwilling to extend "good will" to those unwilling to do the same. Having all those folks filtered should make it easy. No one is suggesting you 'extend good will' to anyone. I'm suggesting you stop extending *bad* will to *anyone*. Do you see the difference? Look at your statement above: "Most of the jackals are permanent members..." If you had omitted the word 'jackals', you would have gotten the same message across, but without the personal insult. It's not that difficult. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John I call 'em as I see 'em. If they are in the bozo bin, they are there because about all they do here is toss insults. Jackals. You totally disregarded the point of my response. Do you ever consider that the insults may be fewer if you controlled your behavior? I'm not saying they'd stop, but those that are hurled simply in retaliation would diminish greatly. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John We say "Chanukah Sameach" to each other, and Merry Christmas to goys who celebrate Christmas. I guess to some we should just say, I hope you got some nice presents for Dec. 25th. No, it would be, "Hope you get some nice presents for Winter Solstice." -- I think you should only say that if they celebrate on the Winter Solstice, in 2008 that would be Dec. 21st, on the 22nd in 2009 and the 23rd in 2010, when it would go back to Dec. 21. So, those who open presents on Dec. 25 and are not Christians are really just celebrating Dec. 25th. I think Festivus and Winter Solstice makes a lot more sense than just opening presents because the Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ. Imagine what would happen if all the Chinese celebrated Christmas on Dec.25? Where would all the Jews go to eat on Dec. 25th. We would have to eat at home, and that is against our religion. ;) Now that's something I didn't know. -- We say, "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" John Sure, just go by any Chinese restaurant on Dec.25th and you will find all the restaurant full of Jews. It is a tradition that goes back almost 6000 yrs. ;) http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/...20Chinese.html If you are seeing Jews in "any Chinese restaurant," they certainly are not observant Jews. Observant Jews eat in Kosher restaurants, and while there any Kosher Chinese restaurants, very few of them are. PS - There are more sects and diverse opinion among those who consider themselves Jewish than there are among Christians. Yet, all of them consider themselves observant Jews. Are you now going to tell Jews that the only ones who can be considered "Observant Jews" are those who observe all 613 mitzvot? If so, you would not find one Jew in the entire world. I do find it funny that you, who said you are not Jewish, know more about the Chosen People than most Jews. There is an old joke that if you locked a 100 rabbis in a room and they would not be let out until they had written a book on what it means to be Jewish, they could not agree on the first sentence. I grew up in a city that at the time had a very high percentage of Jews, and am more than a little familiar with Jewish observances, customs, traditions, et cetera. The observant Jews were the Orthodox and Conservative "sect" Jews, the ones who went to synagogues on Friday nights and Saturdays, who kept Kosher, and whose children went to Hebrew school several times a week, among other things. I'm not discussing "cultural" Jews. Of course, I know nothing about Atlanta Jews. Are you Jewish Harry? Yes or no? |
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