BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:
The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.
Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the
US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before
he was
sworn in a President.
How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him
for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember
him?), Obama
has nothing to do with this.
You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment.
That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?

There has already been a different story by Obama, and his future
Chief of staff. At the same time, the Prosecutor did note one area
where Obama clearly made statements that would probably suggest he was
not (at least over the phone) involved. Still, he was this guys main
campaign finance mgr, there are a lot of connections and of course
much more to come. The feds had to act fast to keep this dirty guy
from picking a Senator, but admit there are others involved and there
will be many more charges and indictments to come. Still several un-
named co-conspirators to be named later. Remember however, with a full
democratic congress, there will be no effective investigations from
them, only promotions to posititions of power over the police agencies
involved, al a William Jefferson or Barney Frank and Chris Dodd....


Sore Loserman.

"Sore Loserman" what is that supposed to mean?

It is sad and funny at the same time that The Obama and Rahm Emanuel
are embroiled in this, let's call it a, controversy before The
Obama's administration begins.


What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in the
ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question who
is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national stage
is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question
who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:11:27 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question
who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?

What's the big deal here?
I still don't get why the FBI goody 2-shoes got their panties in a
wad.
So Blago wants something back for appointing a Senator.
Big effing deal. This ain't no stinkin' election.
It's Blago's choice. That's the law.
Blago's clean, and he'll beat the rap.
Probably get re-elected too.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's one way to look at it.
Politics ain't beanball.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:11:27 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.
Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question
who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.

Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.
What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?

What's the big deal here?
I still don't get why the FBI goody 2-shoes got their panties in a
wad.
So Blago wants something back for appointing a Senator.
Big effing deal. This ain't no stinkin' election.
It's Blago's choice. That's the law.
Blago's clean, and he'll beat the rap.
Probably get re-elected too.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's one way to look at it.
Politics ain't beanball.

--Vic


Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.

"Boater" wrote in message
...


Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Eisboch



Not at all. That's why I emphasized "bit." But it certainly is normal
for a quid pro quo in connection with a political appointment. Most of
them are not in the forms Blago wanted, but I assure you, if you get a
political appointment, someday, and that day may never come, you may be
asked to perform a service.

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual
for Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of
federal officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo,
monetary or otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Eisboch


Not at all. That's why I emphasized "bit." But it certainly is normal
for a quid pro quo in connection with a political appointment. Most of
them are not in the forms Blago wanted, but I assure you, if you get a
political appointment, someday, and that day may never come, you may be
asked to perform a service.

Hey! Ain't that how the mafia works too. They do you a favor then they
own you.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:53:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...


Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Probably pretty normal as far as pols go.
Fitzgerald is after him, and this might be a replay of when Jim
Thompson, a fed prosecutor, went after Gov Otto Kerner and
nailed him for some typical pol influence trading. Then *he* became
the gov.
Most of these guys in office are dirty.
Put a tap on Dodd, and you might be surprised his public persona
is a load of crap. Or maybe not.
Where I draw the line is personal profit and endangering/screwing the
public.
There was Sec of State in Illinois who died - maybe 30 years ago.
A guy cleaning the dead pol's hotel room found a suitcase stuffed with
almost a million in cash. It became a big joke around here.

--Vic

On Dec 10, 8:33*am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:53:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.

Right. *He's just a normal, regular guy.

Probably pretty normal as far as pols go.
Fitzgerald is after him, and this might be a replay of when Jim
Thompson, a fed prosecutor, went after Gov Otto Kerner and
nailed him for some typical pol influence trading. *Then *he* became
the gov.
Most of these guys in office are dirty.
Put a tap on Dodd, and you might be surprised his public persona
is a load of crap. Or maybe not.
Where I draw the line is personal profit and endangering/screwing the
public.
There was Sec of State in Illinois who died - maybe 30 years ago.
A guy cleaning the dead pol's hotel room found a suitcase stuffed with
almost a million in cash. *It became a big joke around here.

--Vic

That was Paul Powell. When people were renewing their drivers licenses
etc, they would make their checks out to Paul Powell instead
of :Secretary of State" and he'd get them and cash them.


hey, they were made out to him, eh?

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:33:24 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:53:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...


Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Probably pretty normal as far as pols go.
Fitzgerald is after him, and this might be a replay of when Jim
Thompson, a fed prosecutor, went after Gov Otto Kerner and
nailed him for some typical pol influence trading. Then *he* became
the gov.
Most of these guys in office are dirty.
Put a tap on Dodd, and you might be surprised his public persona
is a load of crap. Or maybe not.
Where I draw the line is personal profit and endangering/screwing the
public.
There was Sec of State in Illinois who died - maybe 30 years ago.
A guy cleaning the dead pol's hotel room found a suitcase stuffed with
almost a million in cash. It became a big joke around here.

--Vic

Was it frozen cash?
--
John