Boater wrote:
D.Duck wrote:

Why do you have such disdain for folks that hunt air breathing
creatures but find fishing acceptable?


Because I can. I don't think stalking animals in the woods, and then
shooting them from 200 yards away with a high-powered rifle and scope is
"sport." I'm also disgusted these days by those who fish for sharks and
other mostly inedible pelagics for the "sport" of it.

There's absolutely nothing "manly" about shooting deer or doves or most
other harmless creatures.


This sounds very similar to the lectures you gave us about buying a
Japanese vehicle and outboard(from those who brought you Pearl Harbor)
and banning handguns, (a shotgun is a much better weapon for self
defense, and the only people who own handguns are men who are missing
half their teeth and think the definition of a virgin is a sister who
can not outrun her brother).

All of that changed as soon as you decided you wanted to buy a Japanese
truck, outboard and handgun. When one's core values change with the
wind, it really diminishes your ability to effectively lecture anyone on
any subject. Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
D.Duck wrote:

Why do you have such disdain for folks that hunt air breathing
creatures but find fishing acceptable?


Because I can. I don't think stalking animals in the woods, and then
shooting them from 200 yards away with a high-powered rifle and scope
is "sport." I'm also disgusted these days by those who fish for sharks
and other mostly inedible pelagics for the "sport" of it.

There's absolutely nothing "manly" about shooting deer or doves or
most other harmless creatures.


This sounds very similar to the lectures

Find a new object for your affections, Reggie. I'm never going to sleep
with you.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.

Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.

Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.

Casady


Well, when you intrude upon and destroy animal habitat, they tend to wander.

On Dec 9, 11:41*am, Boater wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.

Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.

Casady

Well, when you intrude upon and destroy animal habitat, they tend to wander.

You own a home, right? Then you are as guilty as the next guy.

wrote:
On Dec 9, 11:41 am, Boater wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.
Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.
Casady
Well, when you intrude upon and destroy animal habitat, they tend to wander.

You own a home, right? Then you are as guilty as the next guy.

You do know he *doesn't* own a home, right?

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:41:42 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.

Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.

Casady


Well, when you intrude upon and destroy animal habitat, they tend to wander.

Man has created most deer habitat, and there are far more deer than
when the white man arrived and started cutting the forest. The second
growth stuff that then grows is what the deer eat. They live at the
edge of the forest, and human activity has created lots of edges and
too many deer.

Casady

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:45:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:41:42 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.

Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.

Well, when you intrude upon and destroy animal habitat, they tend to wander.

Man has created most deer habitat, and there are far more deer than
when the white man arrived and started cutting the forest. The second
growth stuff that then grows is what the deer eat. They live at the
edge of the forest, and human activity has created lots of edges and
too many deer.

That's an excellent point and one that's not often considered.

Plus, as the urban areas expand into surburbia, you are seeing more
and more farmlands intertwined with housing tracts which also creates
problems as the deer forage in fields and backyards.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:45:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:41:42 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.
Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.
Well, when you intrude upon and destroy animal habitat, they tend to wander.
Man has created most deer habitat, and there are far more deer than
when the white man arrived and started cutting the forest. The second
growth stuff that then grows is what the deer eat. They live at the
edge of the forest, and human activity has created lots of edges and
too many deer.

That's an excellent point and one that's not often considered.

Plus, as the urban areas expand into surburbia, you are seeing more
and more farmlands intertwined with housing tracts which also creates
problems as the deer forage in fields and backyards.


Not that I doubt it (well, maybe a little), but...

....how does anyone really know that there are more deer today in the
United States then when "the white man arrived."

Did the Pilgrims do a scientific deer census in 1620?

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:10:55 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:45:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:41:42 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Next year, you will be talking about the beauty and grace
of watching the deer walk through the forest on a foggy morning,
sighting the deer in your sights, and the feel of cold steel against
your cheek, and then slowly pulling the trigger, just so you can enjoy
the sight of blowing Bambi's brains all over the forest.
Bambi is vermin. They got one car of mine. Go for a country drive
around these parts, and you will see more deer than cats, rabbits,
coons, possoms, and skunks, combined. Lots of cars get roadkilled.
Well, when you intrude upon and destroy animal habitat, they tend to wander.
Man has created most deer habitat, and there are far more deer than
when the white man arrived and started cutting the forest. The second
growth stuff that then grows is what the deer eat. They live at the
edge of the forest, and human activity has created lots of edges and
too many deer.

That's an excellent point and one that's not often considered.

Plus, as the urban areas expand into surburbia, you are seeing more
and more farmlands intertwined with housing tracts which also creates
problems as the deer forage in fields and backyards.


Not that I doubt it (well, maybe a little), but...

...how does anyone really know that there are more deer today in the
United States then when "the white man arrived."

Did the Pilgrims do a scientific deer census in 1620?

No. What we do know is how much deer habitat there was then. They
also go ride of the lions, bobcats, and wolves. Nothing in the wild
dies of old age. The gun and the auto have replaced the fang and claw.
Peoples landscaping and crops replace whatever grows in the clearings
when big, old, trees finally fall.

Casady