On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:15:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:15:08 -0500, Boater
wrote:

How will religious persons *know* if a supreme being exists? Does El
Supremo invite them over for coffee and cake? A religious person may
indeed have faith there is a supreme being, but that is all.

Ah well - you see, you can believe what you wish.

I KNOW a Supreme Being exists. For a fact.

Doesn't matter how I know - I know.

And it really doesn't matter what you think about that either.

This whole discussion is stupid.

Only to you mere mortals.

To me, being a diety myself not to mention Galactic Overlord, I find
it amusing.

I'll have to dig out my smiting handbook and smite a few of you to
keep you in line.

Let's get back to GM and unions.

NUKE GM!!!

And the UAW...

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:15:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:15:08 -0500, Boater
wrote:

How will religious persons *know* if a supreme being exists? Does El
Supremo invite them over for coffee and cake? A religious person may
indeed have faith there is a supreme being, but that is all.

Ah well - you see, you can believe what you wish.

I KNOW a Supreme Being exists. For a fact.

Doesn't matter how I know - I know.

And it really doesn't matter what you think about that either.

This whole discussion is stupid.

Only to you mere mortals.

To me, being a diety myself not to mention Galactic Overlord, I find
it amusing.

I'll have to dig out my smiting handbook and smite a few of you to
keep you in line.

Let's get back to GM and unions.

NUKE GM!!!

And the UAW...

Nuke Ford and Chrysler while youse at it. Both sux on warrantee.

On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:44:47 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:15:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:15:08 -0500, Boater
wrote:

How will religious persons *know* if a supreme being exists? Does El
Supremo invite them over for coffee and cake? A religious person may
indeed have faith there is a supreme being, but that is all.

Ah well - you see, you can believe what you wish.

I KNOW a Supreme Being exists. For a fact.

Doesn't matter how I know - I know.

And it really doesn't matter what you think about that either.

This whole discussion is stupid.

Only to you mere mortals.

To me, being a diety myself not to mention Galactic Overlord, I find
it amusing.

I'll have to dig out my smiting handbook and smite a few of you to
keep you in line.

Let's get back to GM and unions.

NUKE GM!!!

And the UAW...

Nuke Ford and Chrysler while youse at it. Both sux on warrantee.

Oh really?

Ford put two new brand new, non-reman engines in my F-150, a new cat
system, new rear end and a transmission not to mention changed the EMM
all in an effort to get the beast to tow 5000 lbs like they claimed.
One of the results of all this work was a vacuum hose slipped off the
vacuum pump causing the brake system to fail (fortunately in a parking
lot) requiring a replacement hose (a silent recall) and they paid the
$567 tow bill no questions asked.

All the drive train work at no cost to me.

And I have never, EVER, had a warranty issue in terms of payment - if
it's covered, it's payed for - I don't even see the bill.

Oh, one other thing. The dealer is outstanding. The oil change
before this last one, I asked them to check the brakes as I thought
the front ones were looking a little worn when they rotated the tires.
Said they wre fine. Well, they weren't because one week later, I
heard grinding noises, knew the brakes were bad and they replaced the
rotors, calipers and brakes - no charge.

Don't tell me about Ford - wouldn't buy any other car. And I would
remind you that Ford may just make it through this as our only
domestic, all American auto manufacturer.

Ever.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:44:47 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:15:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:15:08 -0500, Boater
wrote:

How will religious persons *know* if a supreme being exists? Does El
Supremo invite them over for coffee and cake? A religious person may
indeed have faith there is a supreme being, but that is all.
Ah well - you see, you can believe what you wish.

I KNOW a Supreme Being exists. For a fact.

Doesn't matter how I know - I know.

And it really doesn't matter what you think about that either.
This whole discussion is stupid.
Only to you mere mortals.

To me, being a diety myself not to mention Galactic Overlord, I find
it amusing.

I'll have to dig out my smiting handbook and smite a few of you to
keep you in line.

Let's get back to GM and unions.
NUKE GM!!!

And the UAW...
Nuke Ford and Chrysler while youse at it. Both sux on warrantee.

Oh really?

Ford put two new brand new, non-reman engines in my F-150, a new cat
system, new rear end and a transmission not to mention changed the EMM
all in an effort to get the beast to tow 5000 lbs like they claimed.
One of the results of all this work was a vacuum hose slipped off the
vacuum pump causing the brake system to fail (fortunately in a parking
lot) requiring a replacement hose (a silent recall) and they paid the
$567 tow bill no questions asked.

All the drive train work at no cost to me.

And I have never, EVER, had a warranty issue in terms of payment - if
it's covered, it's payed for - I don't even see the bill.

Oh, one other thing. The dealer is outstanding. The oil change
before this last one, I asked them to check the brakes as I thought
the front ones were looking a little worn when they rotated the tires.
Said they wre fine. Well, they weren't because one week later, I
heard grinding noises, knew the brakes were bad and they replaced the
rotors, calipers and brakes - no charge.

Don't tell me about Ford - wouldn't buy any other car. And I would
remind you that Ford may just make it through this as our only
domestic, all American auto manufacturer.

I love my F-150 SuperCrew. I even smashed up the right front. The guy
who fixed it was a freaking genius with frames and bodies. The owner of
the shop is an idiot but they guy who actually did the work is excellent.

Oh, it doesn't eat tires after the "incident".

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:44:47 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:15:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:15:08 -0500, Boater
wrote:

How will religious persons *know* if a supreme being exists? Does El
Supremo invite them over for coffee and cake? A religious person may
indeed have faith there is a supreme being, but that is all.

Ah well - you see, you can believe what you wish.

I KNOW a Supreme Being exists. For a fact.

Doesn't matter how I know - I know.

And it really doesn't matter what you think about that either.

This whole discussion is stupid.

Only to you mere mortals.

To me, being a diety myself not to mention Galactic Overlord, I find
it amusing.

I'll have to dig out my smiting handbook and smite a few of you to
keep you in line.

Let's get back to GM and unions.

NUKE GM!!!

And the UAW...

Nuke Ford and Chrysler while youse at it. Both sux on warrantee.

Oh really?

Ford put two new brand new, non-reman engines in my F-150, a new cat
system, new rear end and a transmission not to mention changed the EMM
all in an effort to get the beast to tow 5000 lbs like they claimed.
One of the results of all this work was a vacuum hose slipped off the
vacuum pump causing the brake system to fail (fortunately in a parking
lot) requiring a replacement hose (a silent recall) and they paid the
$567 tow bill no questions asked.

All the drive train work at no cost to me.

And I have never, EVER, had a warranty issue in terms of payment - if
it's covered, it's payed for - I don't even see the bill.

Oh, one other thing. The dealer is outstanding. The oil change
before this last one, I asked them to check the brakes as I thought
the front ones were looking a little worn when they rotated the tires.
Said they wre fine. Well, they weren't because one week later, I
heard grinding noises, knew the brakes were bad and they replaced the
rotors, calipers and brakes - no charge.

Don't tell me about Ford - wouldn't buy any other car. And I would
remind you that Ford may just make it through this as our only
domestic, all American auto manufacturer.

Ever.

My 99 Expedition had both outside rear view mirrors desilver. 37k miles and
2 years new. Will not do anything because the mileage warrantee is up. F'n
mileage on a rear view mirror. Daughters 2000 Explorer. 1" thick sheet of
yellow fixit receipts under warrantee. They addmitted the car should have
gone back under the lemon laws but too many miles by then, At 105k miles
the engine ran bad. They wanted $500 to just look at the motor to see what
was wrong. Pull the heads. Pulled the valve cover to see the the rocker
for #1 cylinder sleeping on top of the head. Maybe just crappy dealer, but
left a very bad feeling.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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Ford put two new brand new, non-reman engines in my F-150, a new cat
system, new rear end and a transmission not to mention changed the EMM
all in an effort to get the beast to tow 5000 lbs like they claimed.
One of the results of all this work was a vacuum hose slipped off the
vacuum pump causing the brake system to fail (fortunately in a parking
lot) requiring a replacement hose (a silent recall) and they paid the
$567 tow bill no questions asked.

All the drive train work at no cost to me.

And I have never, EVER, had a warranty issue in terms of payment - if
it's covered, it's payed for - I don't even see the bill.


Why would your V8 ford not tow a 5000 pound trailer load? My '97 F-150
did without breaking a sweat.