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Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 12:53 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg

Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 01:02 AM

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg



I like it technically, but...it doesn't seem to go anywhere.

BTW, while you were snoozing, I popped open the trunk of your car and
got this beauty:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/52b86fbf.jpg










(Oh...for the rec.boats idiots...no, I'm just funning SW.)



RG December 6th 08 01:05 AM

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


Cool. The shadows make the sand look terraced. I don't share your
affection for black & white, but I love the composition.

RG



Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 02:47 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:05:58 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


Cool. The shadows make the sand look terraced. I don't share your
affection for black & white, but I love the composition.


One color and one conversion.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_CLR.jpg
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

Wayne.B December 6th 08 02:53 AM

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:53:33 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg




It's very cool, too bad about the zebra.


Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 02:58 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:41 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg



I like it technically, but...it doesn't seem to go anywhere.


Thank you - appreciate it.

BTW, while you were snoozing, I popped open the trunk of your car and
got this beauty:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/52b86fbf.jpg


That's not too far from reality except for all the cameras - I only
carry a video camera, a Canon PnS and the E-300 - with lenses, true.
:)

However, there is also a full rain suit, some heavy towels, two
thermal blanets, my EMS jump kit, a pair of binoculars, one handheld
VHF, a laser range finder, two hundred feet of 3/8" double braid with
harness/three rove block&tackle, 30' 6500 lb tow strap, manual inflate
PFD, standard PFD, a folding survival shovel and six MRIs - vegetarian
along with a gallon of water, fire starters and two butane lighters.

Can you tell I used to be Captain of the Rescue Squad? :)

You never know, ya know?

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 02:59 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:53:49 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:53:33 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


It's very cool, too bad about the zebra.


Big sum' bitch huh?

--

"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
and begin to slit throats."

H. L. Mencken

Tim December 6th 08 03:02 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Dec 5, 6:53*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


shadows of a picket fence against a sand dune?

Tim December 6th 08 03:03 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Dec 5, 7:02*pm, Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


I like it technically, but...it doesn't seem to go anywhere.

BTW, while you were snoozing, I popped open the trunk of your car and
got this beauty:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/52b86fbf.jpg

(Oh...for the rec.boats idiots...no, I'm just funning SW.)


Harry, that's a pic of the contents of my sock drawer. You gotta dig
deep for the Dan Wesson, though.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 6th 08 03:05 AM

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg


Tim December 6th 08 03:09 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Dec 5, 8:47*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:05:58 -0700, "RG" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:p7jjj4566m2ep7gfb93n0rq2nm5uqt10ng@4a x.com...
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


Cool. *The shadows make the sand look terraced. *I don't share your
affection for black & white, but I love the composition.


One color and one conversion.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_CLR.jpg
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.


AH! My suspicions were correct. Reminds me of the movie "Summer of
'42" .

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thum...dune-fence.jpg

D.Duck December 6th 08 05:48 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:41 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg



I like it technically, but...it doesn't seem to go anywhere.


Thank you - appreciate it.

BTW, while you were snoozing, I popped open the trunk of your car and
got this beauty:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/52b86fbf.jpg


That's not too far from reality except for all the cameras - I only
carry a video camera, a Canon PnS and the E-300 - with lenses, true.
:)

However, there is also a full rain suit, some heavy towels, two
thermal blanets, my EMS jump kit, a pair of binoculars, one handheld
VHF, a laser range finder, two hundred feet of 3/8" double braid with
harness/three rove block&tackle, 30' 6500 lb tow strap, manual inflate
PFD, standard PFD, a folding survival shovel and six MRIs - vegetarian
along with a gallon of water, fire starters and two butane lighters.


.....and a partridge in a pear tree.



Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 06:00 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
D.Duck wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:02:41 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg

I like it technically, but...it doesn't seem to go anywhere.

Thank you - appreciate it.

BTW, while you were snoozing, I popped open the trunk of your car and
got this beauty:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/52b86fbf.jpg

That's not too far from reality except for all the cameras - I only
carry a video camera, a Canon PnS and the E-300 - with lenses, true.
:)

However, there is also a full rain suit, some heavy towels, two
thermal blanets, my EMS jump kit, a pair of binoculars, one handheld
VHF, a laser range finder, two hundred feet of 3/8" double braid with
harness/three rove block&tackle, 30' 6500 lb tow strap, manual inflate
PFD, standard PFD, a folding survival shovel and six MRIs - vegetarian
along with a gallon of water, fire starters and two butane lighters.


....and a partridge in a pear tree.




And that's just for a trip to 7-11.


Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 11:47 AM

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg


I liked that one too, but it needs more tinkering - I haven't quite
got the shading right.

I've got a few more from my trip to Mystic yesterday that I like.

Work on 'em when I've got some time.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 11:54 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg


I forgot to mention - those images are of the Nappatree Beach Dune
Restoration project - Watch Hill, Rhode Island.

When they first started the project 6 years ago, the dune I was
standing on top of didn't even exist - it was just a small mound.

Now, it's damn near forty feet high. In theory, they are moving right
down the beach with this project restoring them to what they used to
be 100 years ago.

It's working so far.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 11:55 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:02:35 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 6:53*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


shadows of a picket fence against a sand dune?


Cretin.

It's certainly better than a certain picture of a guy impersonating
one of the GEICO cave man guys.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 12:07 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:02:35 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 6:53 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg

shadows of a picket fence against a sand dune?


Cretin.


A cretin is someone who believes The Flintstones represents real life
adventures when men and dinosaurs roamed the earth together.

JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 12:24 PM

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:47:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:05:58 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


Cool. The shadows make the sand look terraced. I don't share your
affection for black & white, but I love the composition.


One color and one conversion.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_CLR.jpg


Nope. Your first fence picture spoke to me. These don't whisper. Maybe it's
because they're outshown by the first one.

Here, I've been saving this picture. But, now I'll let it out for public
consumption.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0074.jpg
--
John H.

JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 12:25 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:55:33 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:02:35 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 6:53*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


shadows of a picket fence against a sand dune?


Cretin.

It's certainly better than a certain picture of a guy impersonating
one of the GEICO cave man guys.


That wasn't Moses after his trip up the mountain?

Damn, learn something new every day.
--
John H.

RG December 6th 08 12:32 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 

I forgot to mention - those images are of the Nappatree Beach Dune
Restoration project - Watch Hill, Rhode Island.

When they first started the project 6 years ago, the dune I was
standing on top of didn't even exist - it was just a small mound.

Now, it's damn near forty feet high. In theory, they are moving right
down the beach with this project restoring them to what they used to
be 100 years ago.

It's working so far.


Do we have wormsign?



Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 6th 08 12:50 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg

Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg


I liked that one too, but it needs more tinkering - I haven't quite
got the shading right.

I've got a few more from my trip to Mystic yesterday that I like.

Work on 'em when I've got some time.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.


RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you. The entire
photo club membership voted on the best photos of the year last night.
Every photo that took a 1st, 2nd or 3rd in the monthly photo reviews
were included in the vote. There are always 3 categories every month.
Digital submissions (those projected on a screen), color and B&W prints.
At my table, I voted for 3 B&W photos, they all told a story or
highlighted a mood. Everyone else at my table voted for color wide
angle sunrise or sunset professional quality landscapes photos or
exceptional color photos of very interesting people or ones that told a
story of the person. The first place photo was a wide angle shot of
horses running through a mountain field and a patch of trees, with the
fog highlighting the red sunrise. I thought the photo was nice, but in
my mind, it was far from the best photo.

I didn't vote for my "artistic nude" horse, because I really didn't
think it was one of the best. It tied for 3rd place for the year, there
were enough people who like a different B&W image to give my over
photo-shopped horse a 3rd place over the other 108 submissions. With
about 60 people voting for their top 3 photos out of 108 submissions,
the first place photos, only had about 15 votes. I really don't know
how many votes my photo had, but it was enough for a 3rd.

As I said, I really take photos I like, but it is a plus when someone
else likes them.




Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 6th 08 12:59 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg

Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg


I forgot to mention - those images are of the Nappatree Beach Dune
Restoration project - Watch Hill, Rhode Island.

When they first started the project 6 years ago, the dune I was
standing on top of didn't even exist - it was just a small mound.

Now, it's damn near forty feet high. In theory, they are moving right
down the beach with this project restoring them to what they used to
be 100 years ago.

It's working so far.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.


Since the southeastern beach resorts are newer than the northern beach
resorts, most of them have small boardwalks over the dunes to protect
them. They are really necessary to protect the ecology, but they are
also beautiful. Sand Dunes also remind me of a carnal encounter as a
college student. I really can't remember who she was, but I still have
great memories of my time in a secluded sand dune.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 01:00 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:32:02 -0700, "RG" wrote:


I forgot to mention - those images are of the Nappatree Beach Dune
Restoration project - Watch Hill, Rhode Island.

When they first started the project 6 years ago, the dune I was
standing on top of didn't even exist - it was just a small mound.

Now, it's damn near forty feet high. In theory, they are moving right
down the beach with this project restoring them to what they used to
be 100 years ago.

It's working so far.


Do we have wormsign?


ROTFL!!!

No - no worm sign.

No Spice either dammit. :)

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 01:03 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:25:40 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:55:33 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:02:35 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 6:53*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg

shadows of a picket fence against a sand dune?


Cretin.

It's certainly better than a certain picture of a guy impersonating
one of the GEICO cave man guys.


That wasn't Moses after his trip up the mountain?

Damn, learn something new every day.


Tim knows what I'm talking about.

And it wasn't Moses - it was strictly Neanderthal like. :)

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Tim December 6th 08 01:06 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Dec 6, 5:55*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:02:35 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 6:53*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg


shadows of a picket fence against a sand dune?


Cretin.

It's certainly better than a certain picture of a guy impersonating
one of the GEICO cave man guys.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.


impersonating???

RG December 6th 08 01:10 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 

Do we have wormsign?


ROTFL!!!

No - no worm sign.

No Spice either dammit. :)

--


"He who controls the Spice controls the universe".



Tim December 6th 08 01:17 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Dec 6, 6:59*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg
Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:


http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg


*I forgot to mention - those images are of the Nappatree Beach Dune
Restoration project - Watch Hill, Rhode Island.


When they first started the project 6 years ago, the dune I was
standing on top of didn't even exist - it was just a small mound.


Now, it's damn near forty feet high. *In theory, they are moving right
down the beach with this project restoring them to what they used to
be 100 years ago.


It's working so far.


--


"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."


Theodore Roosevelt.


Since the southeastern beach resorts are newer than the northern beach
resorts, most of them have small boardwalks over the dunes to protect
them. *They are really necessary to protect the ecology, but they are
also beautiful. *Sand Dunes also remind me of a carnal encounter as a
college student. *I really can't remember who she was, but I still have
great memories of my time in a secluded sand dune.


ala Summer of '42?

Tim December 6th 08 01:18 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Dec 6, 7:00*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:32:02 -0700, "RG" wrote:

I forgot to mention - those images are of the Nappatree Beach Dune
Restoration project - Watch Hill, Rhode Island.


When they first started the project 6 years ago, the dune I was
standing on top of didn't even exist - it was just a small mound.


Now, it's damn near forty feet high. *In theory, they are moving right
down the beach with this project restoring them to what they used to
be 100 years ago.


It's working so far.


Do we have wormsign?


ROTFL!!!

No - no worm sign.

No Spice either dammit. *:)

concubines?

RG December 6th 08 01:21 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 

RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you.


That's absolutely true. It's typically a strong personal preference. When
I look at a black & white photograph, I usually, but not always, will wonder
what it would look like in color. Conversely, when I look at a color
photograph, I never wonder what it would look like in black & white.
However, there are exceptions. I thought your horse photograph was perfect
for black & white, and I never asked myself the color question on that one.
I thought lack & white was the natural choice for that image. That doesn't
happen very often for me. Tom, on the other hand, has a strong calling
toward grayscale images. Different strokes, it's all good.



Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 6th 08 01:21 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
Tim wrote:
On Dec 6, 6:59 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:



On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg
Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:
http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg
I forgot to mention - those images are of the Nappatree Beach Dune
Restoration project - Watch Hill, Rhode Island.
When they first started the project 6 years ago, the dune I was
standing on top of didn't even exist - it was just a small mound.
Now, it's damn near forty feet high. In theory, they are moving right
down the beach with this project restoring them to what they used to
be 100 years ago.
It's working so far.
--
"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."
Theodore Roosevelt.

Since the southeastern beach resorts are newer than the northern beach
resorts, most of them have small boardwalks over the dunes to protect
them. They are really necessary to protect the ecology, but they are
also beautiful. Sand Dunes also remind me of a carnal encounter as a
college student. I really can't remember who she was, but I still have
great memories of my time in a secluded sand dune.


ala Summer of '42?


Si Senor.


Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 01:33 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
RG wrote:
RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you.


That's absolutely true. It's typically a strong personal preference. When
I look at a black & white photograph, I usually, but not always, will wonder
what it would look like in color.


Are you one of those who likes the colorization of Casablanca?

I'll bet you are.

JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 01:50 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:33:10 -0500, Boater wrote:

RG wrote:
RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you.


That's absolutely true. It's typically a strong personal preference. When
I look at a black & white photograph, I usually, but not always, will wonder
what it would look like in color.


Are you one of those who likes the colorization of Casablanca?

I'll bet you are.


Must you attempt to throw personal insults at everyone?
--
John H.

Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 01:54 PM

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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:33:10 -0500, Boater wrote:

RG wrote:
RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you.
That's absolutely true. It's typically a strong personal preference. When
I look at a black & white photograph, I usually, but not always, will wonder
what it would look like in color.

Are you one of those who likes the colorization of Casablanca?

I'll bet you are.


Must you attempt to throw personal insults at everyone?



D'oh.

That really went over your head, Herring.

I was referring to the colorization of the black and white movie,
Casablanca.

Get it?

Jesus.


JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 02:06 PM

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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:54:47 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:33:10 -0500, Boater wrote:

RG wrote:
RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you.
That's absolutely true. It's typically a strong personal preference. When
I look at a black & white photograph, I usually, but not always, will wonder
what it would look like in color.
Are you one of those who likes the colorization of Casablanca?

I'll bet you are.


Must you attempt to throw personal insults at everyone?



D'oh.

That really went over your head, Herring.

I was referring to the colorization of the black and white movie,
Casablanca.

Get it?

Jesus.


Yes, I knew to what you were referring. If your comment was *not* meant to
be insulting, then I apologize for my reply.
--
John H.

Tim December 6th 08 02:30 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Dec 6, 7:21*am, "RG" wrote:
RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you.


That's absolutely true. *It's typically a strong personal preference. *When
I look at a black & white photograph, I usually, but not always, will wonder
what it would look like in color. *Conversely, when I look at a color
photograph, I never wonder what it would look like in black & white.
However, there are exceptions. *I thought your horse photograph was perfect
for black & white, and I never asked myself the color question on that one.
I thought lack & white was the natural choice for that image. *That doesn't
happen very often for me. *Tom, on the other hand, has a strong calling
toward grayscale images. *Different strokes, it's all good.


personal preforance, maybe. But it seems that cemetery head stone pics
are always best in BW.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 08:06 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:50:25 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/_C050199.jpg
Nice texture and mood photo, but I really like this one:

http://www.swsports.org/images/Dune_BW.jpg


I liked that one too, but it needs more tinkering - I haven't quite
got the shading right.

I've got a few more from my trip to Mystic yesterday that I like.

Work on 'em when I've got some time.



RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you. The entire
photo club membership voted on the best photos of the year last night.
Every photo that took a 1st, 2nd or 3rd in the monthly photo reviews
were included in the vote. There are always 3 categories every month.
Digital submissions (those projected on a screen), color and B&W prints.
At my table, I voted for 3 B&W photos, they all told a story or
highlighted a mood.


Russ is absoutely dead on - you either like them or you don't.

Part of my problem, not that it's a "problem" per se just an
annoyance, is that I've lost touch with my creative muse, if you will,
and I'm trying to redevelop a feel for B&W. I know how to compose a
good photograph, I know how to work with a negative, how to compensate
for exposure - all the goodies - I can look at other images and really
critique with the best of them from an artistic and technical
viewpoint, but I've lost something along the way in the transition
from film to digital - I'm just not getting it for some reason.

So it's back to the basics - light meters, manual exposures and
relying on "feel" rather than what the camera can produce if left on
it's own. And that means grayscale which, to tell the truth, is my
first preference - Russ is also right on that score.

It's long been my opinon that anybody who really wants to get into
photography, both action, scenic and portrait, needs to work strictly
in grayscale until they get an overall feel for what makes a good
photograph.

Thus, I'm going to be experimenting with grayscale for a while.

Everyone else at my table voted for color wide
angle sunrise or sunset professional quality landscapes photos or
exceptional color photos of very interesting people or ones that told a
story of the person. The first place photo was a wide angle shot of
horses running through a mountain field and a patch of trees, with the
fog highlighting the red sunrise. I thought the photo was nice, but in
my mind, it was far from the best photo.


Oh boy - I wrote poor Russ after looking at some of this upcoming
images - 2500 words on the very same subject - story telling and how
images and photographs should tell a story. Or if they dont' tell a
story, they should suggest one.

I think Russ gave up at one point. :)

I didn't vote for my "artistic nude" horse, because I really didn't
think it was one of the best. It tied for 3rd place for the year, there
were enough people who like a different B&W image to give my over
photo-shopped horse a 3rd place over the other 108 submissions. With
about 60 people voting for their top 3 photos out of 108 submissions,
the first place photos, only had about 15 votes. I really don't know
how many votes my photo had, but it was enough for a 3rd.


Well, that's a situation you can't do anything about. Unfortunately,
the sharp commercial image will always win out over an image with
technical and artistic values because that's what everybody has been
exposed to and expects in their own images.

Sunsets drive me nuts actually. It's not like you don't see them
overy other day or so. Most of the time they are over processed or
HDRed to death, but that's what people expect to see. Most are heavy
handed crap to me.

As I said, I really take photos I like, but it is a plus when someone
else likes them.


That's what it's all about.

And, as I said to Russ (in another 2500 word monograph on the
philosophy of taking a photograph versus an image - poor guy, felt
sorry for him), I can't make decisions for you as I wasn't there and I
can't speak to what you were feeling, seeing or experiencing. Nor
should I. What I can do is comment on the nature of the technical
aspects and composition and how it affected me, but that may not work
for you.

It's something that missing from the photographic teaching syllabus of
instructors. It's not all about technique, it's about telling a story
through composition, technique and impression.

And I'm not going to go through that again. :)

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 08:17 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:10:44 -0700, "RG" wrote:


Do we have wormsign?


ROTFL!!!

No - no worm sign.

No Spice either dammit. :)


"He who controls the Spice controls the universe".


"If wishes were fishes, we'd all cast nets."

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Tom Francis - SWSports December 6th 08 08:26 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:33:10 -0500, Boater
wrote:

RG wrote:
RG's comment about black and white photos seems to be a universal
sentiment, you either love 'em or they do nothing for you.


That's absolutely true. It's typically a strong personal preference. When
I look at a black & white photograph, I usually, but not always, will wonder
what it would look like in color.


Are you one of those who likes the colorization of Casablanca?

I'll bet you are.


That's one instance where it worked to good effect.

And you can still take your pick of which one to watch.

Can't beat that.

Plus, noir can be overdone. There were a lot of crap noir style
movies.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 09:46 PM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:17:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:10:44 -0700, "RG" wrote:


Do we have wormsign?

ROTFL!!!

No - no worm sign.

No Spice either dammit. :)


"He who controls the Spice controls the universe".


"If wishes were fishes, we'd all cast nets."


"**** in one hand and wish in the other. See which gets fullest fastest."
--
John H.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 7th 08 01:20 AM

So, what 'cha think?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:46:52 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:17:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:10:44 -0700, "RG" wrote:


Do we have wormsign?

ROTFL!!!

No - no worm sign.

No Spice either dammit. :)

"He who controls the Spice controls the universe".


"If wishes were fishes, we'd all cast nets."


"**** in one hand and wish in the other. See which gets fullest fastest."


Ah - I don't think that line was in the book.

Or the movie now that I think about it.

Either movie.

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken


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