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[email protected] December 5th 08 04:51 PM

So, gun guys?
 
How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?

[email protected] December 5th 08 04:54 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 11:51*am, wrote:
How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?


I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.

Jim December 5th 08 05:10 PM

So, gun guys?
 
wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?


I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I am 100% percent in agreement.

CRM December 5th 08 05:10 PM

So, gun guys?
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?


I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------


At least it would stop you two assclowns from owning one.



[email protected] December 5th 08 05:37 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 12:10*pm, "CRM" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:

How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?


I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

At least it would stop you two assclowns from owning one.


Great.....another idiot too stupid to make a comment without
vulgarities. Just what IS an "assclown" anyways? It isn't in any
dictionary.

Frogwatch[_2_] December 5th 08 06:13 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.

I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....

--
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Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?

[email protected] December 5th 08 06:18 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 12:56*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:37:58 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 12:10*pm, "CRM" wrote:| wrote in message

|
....
| On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
|
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
| I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
| don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
| that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
|
| -----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
| At least it would stop you two assclowns from owning one.
|
|Great.....another idiot too stupid to make a comment without
|vulgarities. Just what IS an "assclown" anyways? It isn't in any
|dictionary.

Yeah, it is..... Urban Dictionary....http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=ass+clown

--
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Damn, I guess I should have consulted the greatest literary source
EVER!

[email protected] December 5th 08 06:21 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 1:13*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:





On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....


If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....


--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/


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OK, I know nothing about guns. *Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Frogwatch[_2_] December 5th 08 06:39 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:


On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....


If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....


--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/


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OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.


Are firing pins generally replaceable?

Boater[_3_] December 5th 08 06:43 PM

So, gun guys?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:37:58 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 12:10 pm, "CRM" wrote:
| wrote in message
|
| ...
| On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
|
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
| I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
| don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
| that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
|
| -----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
| At least it would stop you two assclowns from owning one.
|
|Great.....another idiot too stupid to make a comment without
|vulgarities. Just what IS an "assclown" anyways? It isn't in any
|dictionary.

Yeah, it is..... Urban Dictionary....
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=ass+clown


And there's even a drawing of loogy!

Boater[_3_] December 5th 08 06:45 PM

So, gun guys?
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....
If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....
--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
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OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.


Are firing pins generally replaceable?


And cheap, too. It's not a problem.

Boater[_3_] December 5th 08 07:02 PM

So, gun guys?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
| On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
|
|
|
| On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
| wrote:
|
| On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| | How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| | while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| | but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| | be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| | course/mental evaluation first?
| |
| |I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
| |don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
| |that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
|
| I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
| just wouldn't do it....
|
| If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
| so.....
|
| --
| Agent 5.00 Build 1159
| Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
|
| Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
|
| Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
| -----------------www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com-*Completion*Retention*Speed*
| Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road
| -----------------
|
| OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
| wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.
|
|Are firing pins generally replaceable?

Yeah.... figure $50 plus labor..... plus any a$$ociated worn parts and
labor.....



There's very little chance of damaging the parts of a modern semi-auto
centerfire pistol via dry-firing. This subject is discussed ad nauseum
on the gun boards, especially when brought up by newbies.

It's not an issue for any of my semi-auto centerfires. I've read
somewhere it might not be a good idea to dry fire rimfire weapons.

Loogy the assclown..perfect.

[email protected] December 5th 08 07:02 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 1:54*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:

| OK, I know nothing about guns. *Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
|wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or
firing pin, and any associated wearing parts.


So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to
the ego of very insecure or stupid people?

[email protected] December 5th 08 07:14 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 5, 2:02*pm, Boater wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
| On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
|
|
|
| On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
| wrote:
|
| On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| | How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| | while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| | but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| | be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| | course/mental evaluation first?
| |
| |I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
| |don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
| |that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
|
| I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea....... I
| just wouldn't do it....
|
| If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
| so.....
|
| --
| Agent 5.00 Build 1159
| Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
|
| Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
|
| Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec..boats
| -----------------www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com-*Completion*Retention*Speed*
| Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road
| -----------------
|
| OK, I know nothing about guns. *Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
| wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.
|
|Are firing pins generally replaceable?


Yeah.... figure $50 plus labor..... plus any a$$ociated worn parts and
labor.....


There's very little chance of damaging the parts of a modern semi-auto
centerfire pistol via dry-firing. This subject is discussed ad nauseum
on the gun boards, especially when brought up by newbies.

It's not an issue for any of my semi-auto centerfires. I've read
somewhere it might not be a good idea to dry fire rimfire weapons.

Loogy the assclown..perfect.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I don't give a damn what the "gun boards" say. Also, once again you
are showing what a perfect piece of crap coward you are. Hiding behind
your little Bozo's bin calling people names. And you have the audacity
to call other people names. What a loser.

Don White December 5th 08 07:27 PM

So, gun guys?
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:37:58 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 12:10 pm, "CRM" wrote:
| wrote in message
|
|
...
| On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
|
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like
that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
| I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
| don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
| that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
|
| -----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
| At least it would stop you two assclowns from owning one.
|
|Great.....another idiot too stupid to make a comment without
|vulgarities. Just what IS an "assclown" anyways? It isn't in any
|dictionary.

Yeah, it is..... Urban Dictionary....
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=ass+clown


And there's even a drawing of loogy!


Showing his best side.



UglyDan®©™ December 5th 08 07:47 PM

So, gun guys?
 
LoogyPickerwrote
I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Correct, and thats one of the reasons I use snap caps. not so much with
semi-auto but
on centerfire revolvers with spurred hammers,
dryfiring rimfire pistol/rifles is always a bad idea, UD





JohnH[_4_] December 5th 08 09:52 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:58:41 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51*am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....


Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.

JohnH[_4_] December 5th 08 09:54 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:02:07 -0500, Boater wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
| On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
|
|
|
| On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
| wrote:
|
| On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| | How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| | while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| | but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| | be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| | course/mental evaluation first?
| |
| |I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
| |don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
| |that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
|
| I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
| just wouldn't do it....
|
| If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
| so.....
|
| --
| Agent 5.00 Build 1159
| Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
|
| Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
|
| Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
| -----------------www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com-*Completion*Retention*Speed*
| Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road
| -----------------
|
| OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
| wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.
|
|Are firing pins generally replaceable?

Yeah.... figure $50 plus labor..... plus any a$$ociated worn parts and
labor.....



There's very little chance of damaging the parts of a modern semi-auto
centerfire pistol via dry-firing. This subject is discussed ad nauseum
on the gun boards, especially when brought up by newbies.

It's not an issue for any of my semi-auto centerfires. I've read
somewhere it might not be a good idea to dry fire rimfire weapons.

Loogy the assclown..perfect.


It's hard for you to stop, isn't it Harry?
--
John H.

BAR[_3_] December 6th 08 04:25 AM

So, gun guys?
 
wrote:
How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?


Broken firing pin comes to mind.

Calif Bill December 6th 08 04:26 AM

So, gun guys?
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
| On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
|
|
|
| On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns

| wrote:
|
| On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST),
penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| | How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and
dryfiring
| | while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty
stupid,
| | but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like
that
| | be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of
safety
| | course/mental evaluation first?
| |
| |I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership.
I
| |don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take
someone
| |that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded
weapon.
|
| I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea......
I
| just wouldn't do it....
|
| If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to
do
| so.....
|
| --
| Agent 5.00 Build 1159
| Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
|
| Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
|
| Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
|
-----------------www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com-*Completion*Retention*Speed*

| Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road
| -----------------
|
| OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted
text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
| wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.
|
|Are firing pins generally replaceable?

Yeah.... figure $50 plus labor..... plus any a$$ociated worn parts and
labor.....

--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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On a rifle or maybe the newer drop safe pistols, but to change a hammer
because you broke the pin, would probably be more expensive. There are snap
caps to install in the weapon to prevent problems. You can make one by
removing the primer from the cartridge and installing a pencil erasure.
Paint the cartridge a different color.



BAR[_3_] December 6th 08 04:27 AM

So, gun guys?
 
Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty
stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like
that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....
If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....
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I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.


Are firing pins generally replaceable?


And cheap, too. It's not a problem.


The unanswered question is when is the firing pin going to break. Dry
firing increases the chance that it will break sooner rather than later.

Calif Bill December 6th 08 04:28 AM

So, gun guys?
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:58:41 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....


Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.


Use a snap cap when practicing.



Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 05:55 AM

So, gun guys?
 
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to control

the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.


Use a snap cap when practicing.




I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



CRM December 6th 08 06:16 AM

So, gun guys?
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?


Broken firing pin comes to mind.


Almost all center fire guns can be dry fired without any chance of failure.
Dry firing a rim fire is usually a big no-no.



CalifBill December 6th 08 06:28 AM

So, gun guys?
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.


Use a snap cap when practicing.



I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.



Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 10:54 AM

So, gun guys?
 
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.


I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.




Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?








Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 6th 08 12:15 PM

So, gun guys?
 
Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two
step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits
when there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the
hammer incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


Harry,
Well, I am curious why such a knowledgeable gun aficionado was once a
proponent of banning all handguns, and thought all handgun owners were
brain dead rednecks, who needed handguns to make up for sexual a deficiency?

I am sure the NRA and rec.boats would like to know what changed your mind?

JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 12:45 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:28:17 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:58:41 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....


Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.


Use a snap cap when practicing.


I'm not suggesting you're wrong, but I am wondering why. The firing pin in
my revolver hits nothing when there is no round in the chamber.
--
John H.

JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 12:47 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:

CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.




Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?
--
John H.

Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 12:48 PM

So, gun guys?
 
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:

CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.
I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.


It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?



You never know when you're going to need to shoot the telephone.

JohnH[_4_] December 6th 08 01:19 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:48:09 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:

CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.
I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.


It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?



You never know when you're going to need to shoot the telephone.


*I* know.

Perhaps *you* don't know.
--
John H.

[email protected] December 6th 08 02:11 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 6, 7:47*am, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.


I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?


I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.


Nothing.


:)


I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.


It is not a repeated over and over movement. *Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.


Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.


Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:


http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?
--
John H.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That was my point, why would any responsible gun owner "play" with his
weapon while he was talking on the phone. Remember, afaik, this owner
was only doing it to boost his ego. I still wonder what could have
happened if it were the kind of "unloaded" gun that kills so many
people every year in the US and around the world.

Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 02:14 PM

So, gun guys?
 
wrote:
On Dec 6, 7:47 am, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.
I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?
I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.
Nothing.
:)
I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.
It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.
Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.
Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.
http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif
Here's an animation of a GLOCK:
http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index
You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.
Next?

Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?
--
John H.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That was my point, why would any responsible gun owner "play" with his
weapon while he was talking on the phone. Remember, afaik, this owner
was only doing it to boost his ego. I still wonder what could have
happened if it were the kind of "unloaded" gun that kills so many
people every year in the US and around the world.



I suspect if it were, it would have been at your house, since you
present as the really careless type. I never let my kids race motorcycles.

Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 02:18 PM

So, gun guys?
 
wrote:


That was my point, why would any responsible gun owner "play" with his
weapon while he was talking on the phone. Remember, afaik, this owner
was only doing it to boost his ego. I still wonder what could have
happened if it were the kind of "unloaded" gun that kills so many
people every year in the US and around the world.



Actually, it was me. You called, remember, right after you tried to
spread some bull**** here about me not owning a handgun. So I said to
you, "Hey, schitt for brains...you recognize this sound?" And I racked
the slide for you.

You recognized the sound all right.

snerk


I don't usually play with my guns, Scotty.

What I was offering up was a little entertainment for the feeble-minded.

That would be...you.

[email protected] December 6th 08 02:21 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 6, 9:14*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 6, 7:47 am, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.
I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?
I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.
Nothing.
:)
I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.
It is not a repeated over and over movement. *Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.
Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.
Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.
http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif
Here's an animation of a GLOCK:
http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index
You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.
Next?
Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?
--
John H.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


That was my point, why would any responsible gun owner "play" with his
weapon while he was talking on the phone. Remember, afaik, this owner
was only doing it to boost his ego. I still wonder what could have
happened if it were the kind of "unloaded" gun that kills so many
people every year in the US and around the world.


I suspect if it were, it would have been at your house, since you
present as the really careless type. I never let my kids race motorcycles..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, my kid races, she doesn't play.. She is a member of the AMA and
races in sanctioned races, on professional tracks, she never plays in
the woods or in unsanctioned areas or events. You go out to
unsanctioned areas and carelessly shoot at stumps and who knows what,
you also "play" with your weapons in the house, I am sure you don't
have a professional range or any kind of sanctioned shooting area in
your rented house... you are an idiot, my kid is on her way to
becoming a professonal...

[email protected] December 6th 08 02:23 PM

So, gun guys?
 
On Dec 6, 9:18*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:

That was my point, why would any responsible gun owner "play" with his
weapon while he was talking on the phone. Remember, afaik, this owner
was only doing it to boost his ego. I still wonder what could have
happened if it were the kind of "unloaded" gun that kills so many
people every year in the US and around the world.


Actually, it was me. You called, remember, right after you tried to
spread some bull**** here about me not owning a handgun. So I said to
you, "Hey, schitt for brains...you recognize this sound?" And I racked
the slide for you.

You recognized the sound all right.

*snerk

I don't usually play with my guns, Scotty.

What I was offering up was a little entertainment for the feeble-minded.

That would be...you.


I called to let you know I was not the one who spread your persoanl
info on the net... and you not only racked it, but you dry fired it
too... Either way, you play with guns, that is stupid...

BAR[_3_] December 6th 08 03:21 PM

So, gun guys?
 
Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two
step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits
when there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the
hammer incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


The tip of the firing pin strikes nothing, what happens to the shoulders
of the firing pin do they hit anything? The firing pin is not just a rod
it is a machined part.

Let me go and disassemble my M1911 and take out the firing pin and look
at it.

Boater[_3_] December 6th 08 03:33 PM

So, gun guys?
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop
brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two
step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits
when there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the
hammer incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol.
It is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers.
GLOCKs don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes
nothing, it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


The tip of the firing pin strikes nothing, what happens to the shoulders
of the firing pin do they hit anything? The firing pin is not just a rod
it is a machined part.

Let me go and disassemble my M1911 and take out the firing pin and look
at it.



All that protrudes on my SIG is the pin that hits the primer. If there
is no round in the chamber, there is nothing for the pin to strike. It
wasn't an issue on the GLOCKs I've field stripped.

I have no familiarity with the "innards" of 1911s.

BAR[_3_] December 6th 08 04:11 PM

So, gun guys?
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how
to control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop
brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two
step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits
when there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the
hammer incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol.
It is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers.
GLOCKs don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no
round in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes
nothing, it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?


The tip of the firing pin strikes nothing, what happens to the
shoulders of the firing pin do they hit anything? The firing pin is
not just a rod it is a machined part.

Let me go and disassemble my M1911 and take out the firing pin and
look at it.



All that protrudes on my SIG is the pin that hits the primer. If there
is no round in the chamber, there is nothing for the pin to strike. It
wasn't an issue on the GLOCKs I've field stripped.

I have no familiarity with the "innards" of 1911s.


Just like you to see only what's on the surface and not worry about
what's underneath.

UglyDan®©™ December 6th 08 04:53 PM

So, gun guys?
 
(BAR)wrote
Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.
I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?
I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.
Nothing.
I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.
It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the
hammer incorporating the firing pin.
Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.
Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.
http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif
Here's an animation of a GLOCK:
http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index
You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.
Next?

The tip of the firing pin strikes nothing, what happens to the shoulders
of the firing pin do they hit anything? The firing pin is not just a rod
it is a machined part.
Let me go and disassemble my M1911 and take out the firing pin and look
at it.

I don't shoot Glocks or Sigs, and never really cared for them too much,
just a preference.
Dry firing a 1911 doesn't really matter to much on the pin itself, but
its a good way to flatten out the firing pin spring prematurely.
For the most part, snaps caps used in semi autos are for teaching
purposes, Staggered in the magazine. They're primarly used to show the
shooter when flinching.
Same can be done with revolvers, but I stand by my earlier statement
that its not a good idea to dry fire revolvers with spurred hammers
without snap caps, again not so much because of the firing pin itself,
but the roll pin.
I'm done. UD







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