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On Dec 7, 11:33*am, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Dec 7, 1:21 am, "CRM" wrote: wrote in message .... I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is not good for anything beyond a few feet. ----------------------------------------------- Here's a grouping free hand at 25 yards (75 feet for you backwoodsers)http://www.dezendorf.us/photos/M2801.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- *Hard to handle too I would imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift -------------------------------------------------------------------- For a little guy, maybe. ------------------------------------------------------------------ *but again, I don't know from firearms... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Then why not STFU? ----------------------------------------------------------------- And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick a fight, but you already knew that... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Why should he "know" that? --------------------------------------------------------------- *I am just a tool ........ --------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- I just thought other weapons would be better. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Why? You already said you know nothing about firearms. Wow, you are a nice little troll... *you are dismissed, now crawl back under your desk and get back to your google brains.. Since you admit you know nothing about guns, why are you so obstreperous when someone points out that you said. You know nothing about guns. Therefore your opinions about what might be good, bad or indifferent handguns...amount to a pile of cold dogturds.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Never said I knew "nothing" about guns.. I know in most cases a longer barrel is more accurate and I have a pretty good understanding about why. Like John said, I asked a perfectly acceptable question, you and your new buddy are the only ones who are not smart enough or honest enough to address it. Either way, if you can't answer simple questions, maybe you shouldn't ge involved in discussion groups. As to my new troll, pfffftttt... Funny how the biggest cowards always go after folks they think pose no threat, and still do if from under a desk on the internet...;) |
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On Dec 7, 11:33 am, Boater wrote: wrote: On Dec 7, 1:21 am, "CRM" wrote: wrote in message ... I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is not good for anything beyond a few feet. ----------------------------------------------- Here's a grouping free hand at 25 yards (75 feet for you backwoodsers)http://www.dezendorf.us/photos/M2801.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hard to handle too I would imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift -------------------------------------------------------------------- For a little guy, maybe. ------------------------------------------------------------------ but again, I don't know from firearms... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Then why not STFU? ----------------------------------------------------------------- And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick a fight, but you already knew that... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Why should he "know" that? --------------------------------------------------------------- I am just a tool ........ --------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- I just thought other weapons would be better. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Why? You already said you know nothing about firearms. Wow, you are a nice little troll... you are dismissed, now crawl back under your desk and get back to your google brains.. Since you admit you know nothing about guns, why are you so obstreperous when someone points out that you said. You know nothing about guns. Therefore your opinions about what might be good, bad or indifferent handguns...amount to a pile of cold dogturds.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Never said I knew "nothing" about guns.. I know in most cases a longer barrel is more accurate Actually, in most circumstances, a longer barrel is not practically more accurate. I don't mean you should compare a 2" snubby to a 6" barrel, but the differences in accuracy at standard distances between most 4" and 5" or 5" or 6" barrel are not important. If you can put six in the bullseye with a 6" barrel revolver at seven yards, you're going to be able to do it with a similar handgun with a 5" or even 4" barrel. A longer barrel can improve velocity, sometimes. This is been tested many times. |
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wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 3:41 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 3:11 pm, Gene wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 5, 1:54 pm, Gene Kearns wrote: | OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | |I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive |wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence. Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or firing pin, and any associated wearing parts. So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to the ego of very insecure or stupid people? From a mechanical stand point I would agree "So generally it's a dumb thing to do," but I would stop short of trying to divine another person's motivations for doing so. Why don't you just advise them against it? -- Noted... But far be it from me to advise the wise one about anything. Like I said, when around folks who I feel are not qualified to handle firearms, I just leave. Now I have to go, my kid and I are going out back to work with our weapons of choice.... And I don't mean motorcycles in this instance. My daughter has decided she wants to train, here's a hint, I bet Loogie has worked with these things here or there. ************************************************** *** Really?? Shame on you!http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en...el=s&rls=o...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Don ruins yet another thread trying to be like his lover/clone/ master Harry. ************************************************* LIAR |
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 3:41 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 3:11 pm, Gene wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 5, 1:54 pm, Gene Kearns wrote: | OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | |I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive |wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence. Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or firing pin, and any associated wearing parts. So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to the ego of very insecure or stupid people? From a mechanical stand point I would agree "So generally it's a dumb thing to do," but I would stop short of trying to divine another person's motivations for doing so. Why don't you just advise them against it? -- Noted... But far be it from me to advise the wise one about anything. Like I said, when around folks who I feel are not qualified to handle firearms, I just leave. Now I have to go, my kid and I are going out back to work with our weapons of choice.... And I don't mean motorcycles in this instance. My daughter has decided she wants to train, here's a hint, I bet Loogie has worked with these things here or there. ************************************************** *** Really?? Shame on you!http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en...el=s&rls=o...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Don ruins yet another thread trying to be like his lover/clone/ master Harry. ************************************************* LIAR Just because Loogy is a pus-filled pimple doesn't mean *you* have to squeeze him. :) |
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"Boater" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 3:41 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 6, 3:11 pm, Gene wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 5, 1:54 pm, Gene Kearns wrote: | OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | |I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive |wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence. Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or firing pin, and any associated wearing parts. So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to the ego of very insecure or stupid people? From a mechanical stand point I would agree "So generally it's a dumb thing to do," but I would stop short of trying to divine another person's motivations for doing so. Why don't you just advise them against it? -- Noted... But far be it from me to advise the wise one about anything. Like I said, when around folks who I feel are not qualified to handle firearms, I just leave. Now I have to go, my kid and I are going out back to work with our weapons of choice.... And I don't mean motorcycles in this instance. My daughter has decided she wants to train, here's a hint, I bet Loogie has worked with these things here or there. ************************************************** *** Really?? Shame on you!http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en...el=s&rls=o...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Don ruins yet another thread trying to be like his lover/clone/ master Harry. ************************************************* LIAR Just because Loogy is a pus-filled pimple doesn't mean *you* have to squeeze him. :) More like lancing him with a super sized needle. |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:30:15 -0800 (PST),
wrote: On Dec 7, 7:23*am, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:21:49 GMT, "CRM" wrote: wrote in message ... I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is not good for anything beyond a few feet. ----------------------------------------------- Here's a grouping free hand at 25 yards (75 feet for you backwoodsers) http://www.dezendorf.us/photos/M2801.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hard to handle too I would imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift -------------------------------------------------------------------- For a little guy, maybe. ------------------------------------------------------------------ but again, I don't know from firearms... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Then why not STFU? ----------------------------------------------------------------- And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick a fight, but you already knew that... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Why should he "know" that? --------------------------------------------------------------- I am just a tool ........ --------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- I just thought other weapons would be better. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Why? You already said you know nothing about firearms. Scotty asked a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. He wasn't making any comments to or about you, so why the assinine response? -- John H.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Didn't you know, he is the latest loser to troll for internet victories! These guys must be complete failures at home. Let him have his fun, maybe it will keep him from beating his wife or kids... You know, I was astonished at the attacks by both crm and Harry. No reason. Just need attention, I suppose. I've had it with Harry for a while. I'll let other folks give him the attention he craves. If I had had a choice, I would have taken a 6" barrel over the 4" barrel because they are more accurate (contrary to what Krause says). But, they are also more cumbersome. But like I said, this gun was a gift. -- John H. |
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I've had it with Harry for a while. Doubtful. You lie about this all the time. |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:30:15 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 7, 7:23*am, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:21:49 GMT, "CRM" wrote: wrote in message ... I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is not good for anything beyond a few feet. ---------------------------------------------- Here's a grouping free hand at 25 yards (75 feet for you backwoodsers) http://www.dezendorf.us/photos/M2801.jpg ---------------------------------------------- Hard to handle too I would imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift ---------------------------------------------- For a little guy, maybe. ---------------------------------------------- but again, I don't know from firearms... ---------------------------------------------- Then why not STFU? ---------------------------------------------- And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick a fight, but you already knew that... ---------------------------------------------- Why should he "know" that? ---------------------------------------------- I am just a tool ........ ---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- I just thought other weapons would be better. ---------------------------------------------- Why? You already said you know nothing about firearms. Scotty asked a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. He wasn't making any comments to or about you, so why the assinine response? -- John H.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Didn't you know, he is the latest loser to troll for internet victories! These guys must be complete failures at home. Let him have his fun, maybe it will keep him from beating his wife or kids... You know, I was astonished at the attacks by both crm and Harry. No reason. Just need attention, I suppose. I've had it with Harry for a while. I'll let other folks give him the attention he craves. If I had had a choice, I would have taken a 6" barrel over the 4" barrel because they are more accurate (contrary to what Krause says). But, they are also more cumbersome. But like I said, this gun was a gift. -- John H. To a degree, Yes a 6" barrel is more accurate than the 4", What Harry failed to mention is it all has to do with "Sight Radius" Basically the distance between the front and rear sights, and there's alot of variables that come into play, When I shoot a day long competition I usually start off with my 6" barrel and end up switching to my 4" barrel later in the day, and the reason is I'm just plain tired. What happens is the front sight gets wobbly in my eye due to the longer sight radius in the 6" barrel. I'm no firearms expert, and would never claim to be, but I do shoot a few matches a week, do all my own reloading, and all the work on my own firearms. Among other things. :) UD |
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UglyDan®©™ wrote:
To a degree, Yes a 6" barrel is more accurate than the 4", What Harry failed to mention is it all has to do with "Sight Radius" Basically the distance between the front and rear sights, and there's alot of variables that come into play, When I shoot a day long competition I usually start off with my 6" barrel and end up switching to my 4" barrel later in the day, and the reason is I'm just plain tired. What happens is the front sight gets wobbly in my eye due to the longer sight radius in the 6" barrel. I'm no firearms expert, and would never claim to be, but I do shoot a few matches a week, do all my own reloading, and all the work on my own firearms. Among other things. :) UD Sight radius has to do with the shooter, not the firearm. Put identical 4" and 6" barrel revolvers in pistol rests and the results against targets at combat distances will be pretty much the same. For accuracy, though, I prefer semi-autos. |
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