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Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty
stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like
that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....
If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....
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OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted
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I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Are firing pins generally replaceable?

And cheap, too. It's not a problem.

The unanswered question is when is the firing pin going to break. Dry
firing increases the chance that it will break sooner rather than later.

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:58:41 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....

Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.

Use a snap cap when practicing.

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Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.

Use a snap cap when practicing.




I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.

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"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
course/mental evaluation first?

Broken firing pin comes to mind.

Almost all center fire guns can be dry fired without any chance of failure.
Dry firing a rim fire is usually a big no-no.

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"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.

Use a snap cap when practicing.


I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.

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CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.




Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?

So, gun guys?
 

Boater wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two
step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits
when there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the
hammer incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?

Harry,
Well, I am curious why such a knowledgeable gun aficionado was once a
proponent of banning all handguns, and thought all handgun owners were
brain dead rednecks, who needed handguns to make up for sexual a deficiency?

I am sure the NRA and rec.boats would like to know what changed your mind?

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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:28:17 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:58:41 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.


I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....

Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.

Use a snap cap when practicing.


I'm not suggesting you're wrong, but I am wondering why. The firing pin in
my revolver hits nothing when there is no round in the chamber.
--
John H.

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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:

CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.

I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.



It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.




Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?

Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?
--
John H.

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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:29 -0500, Boater wrote:

CalifBill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
Dry firing a double action revolver is a good way to learn how to
control
the trigger finger. I was taught to do so by one of my cop brothers
while
on a firing range. It makes firing the revolver a distinctly two step
pull
of the trigger finger and greatly helps accuracy.
--
John H.
Use a snap cap when practicing.
I wonder what you guys think the business end of a firing pin hits when
there is no round in the chamber of most centerfire semi-autos?

I know what it hits in my SIG when there is no round chambered.

Nothing.

:)

I'll leave it to the gun geniuses in here to figure out why.


It is not a repeated over and over movement. Bigger problem is the hammer
incorporating the firing pin.



Oh, really? Gee, on my SIG the hammer doesn't "incorporate" anything
except itself. It kinda sticks "out there" on the back of the pistol. It
is a lever. Now, a lot of semi-autos don't have external hammers. GLOCKs
don't.

Here's an animation of a more simplified process. If there is no round
in the chamber, the firing pin strikes...nothing. If it strikes nothing,
it is unlikely to "break" during a dry fire.


http://www.m1911.org/images/searanimHR.gif


Here's an animation of a GLOCK:

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index


You can see that if there is no round in the GLOCK, the firing pin
strikes...nothing.


Next?

Is there some reason to dry fire your Sig? While on the telephone? Does it
make you a better in-home shooter?


You never know when you're going to need to shoot the telephone.