On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.

And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.



Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.

Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.

Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.

Tet Offensive:

"Although this attempt to spark a general uprising against the
southern government failed militarily, it turned into a significant
political victory by convincing the American politicians and public
that their commitment to South Vietnam could no longer be open-ended."

"By 1974, serious fighting had broken out between PAVN occupation
forces in South Vietnam and the Army of the Republic of Vietnam
(ARVN). The ARVN held its own successfully during this stage of the
fighting."

"South Vietnamese President Nguy?n Van Thi?u appealed to Nixon for
continued financial aid. Nixon was sympathetic but the U.S. Congress
was not, and the move was blocked. At its peak, U.S. aid to South
Vietnam had reached $30 billion a year. By 1974 it had fallen to $1
billion. Starved of funds, Thi?u's government had difficulty even
paying the wages of its army, and desertions became a problem. On the
other side, the PAVN received billions of dollars in new equipment
from the Soviet Union."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B5...%AAn_Gi%C3%A1p

If it weren't describing such a horrific event, it would be funny.

Nothing about it was funny.

Ok, maybe the part where we watched the 101st Airborne main base at
Bein Hoa engage in a fire fight with one of it's own Forward Artillery
Support Bases was pretty funny as they kept missing each other, but in
general, it wasn't.

Admittedly there was the time a certain group of Marines of my
personal acquaintance swiped a VNA General's jeep and used it to do
donuts and...well, let's just save that story for another time.

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.

And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.


Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.

Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.


Tom, Tom, Tom. The "rationale" you supplied doesn't refute my posit that
"we" lost in Vietnam, and the other side won. It's not as if the other
side cheated and won. It won.

What happens when a prizefighter's trainer or corner man throws in the
towel?

We threw in the towel.

We lost.

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.

And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.



Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.

Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.

Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.



Harry's making progress. Last time he dicussed this he proclaimed, "We had
our asses kicked".
Now we simply "gave up".

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.

And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.


Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.
Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.

Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.



Harry's making progress. Last time he dicussed this he proclaimed, "We had
our asses kicked".
Now we simply "gave up".

Eisboch



Same difference. You don't remember the photos of the copters lifting
Americans off rooftops?

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Eisboch wrote:
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.

And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.


Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.
Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.

Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.



Harry's making progress. Last time he dicussed this he proclaimed, "We
had our asses kicked".
Now we simply "gave up".

Eisboch

Same difference. You don't remember the photos of the copters lifting
Americans off rooftops?

I remember it and much more. Apparently it's all you remember.
Forget it. Doesn't matter.
Think what you want.

Eisboch

On Dec 5, 5:46*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.

And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.

Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.
Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.

Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.

Harry's making progress. *Last time he dicussed this he proclaimed, "We
had our asses kicked".
Now we simply "gave up".

Eisboch

Same difference. You don't remember the photos of the copters lifting
Americans off rooftops?

I remember it and much more. *Apparently it's all you remember.
Forget it. *Doesn't matter.
Think what you want.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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You will never know what he really thinks, he is only here to spread
his misery and will say whatever he needs to disrespect anything you/
we find good or honorable... I am not a shrink but I am starting to
believe those who say he has a serious mental problem.. I just can't
imagine someone so hateful and in all my years I can't remember
encountering anyone in such pain. There has to be something or someone
out there who could help, if he would only reach out...

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.
And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.
Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.
Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.
Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.
Harry's making progress. Last time he dicussed this he proclaimed, "We
had our asses kicked".
Now we simply "gave up".
Eisboch
Same difference. You don't remember the photos of the copters lifting
Americans off rooftops?
I remember it and much more. Apparently it's all you remember.
Forget it. Doesn't matter.
Think what you want.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You will never know what he really thinks, he is only here to spread
his misery and will say whatever he needs to disrespect anything you/
we find good or honorable... I am not a shrink


Short people got no reason to live...

On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:35:10 -0500, Boater wrote:

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On Dec 5, 5:46 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.
And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.
Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.
Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.
Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.
Harry's making progress. Last time he dicussed this he proclaimed, "We
had our asses kicked".
Now we simply "gave up".
Eisboch
Same difference. You don't remember the photos of the copters lifting
Americans off rooftops?
I remember it and much more. Apparently it's all you remember.
Forget it. Doesn't matter.
Think what you want.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You will never know what he really thinks, he is only here to spread
his misery and will say whatever he needs to disrespect anything you/
we find good or honorable... I am not a shrink


Short people got no reason to live...

Hi Harry.

You recently (couple hours ago) had a derogatory comment about Fairfax
County Schools. How propitious that US News and World Report should come
out with their 'Top 100' rankings on the same day.

Check it out. Count how many are from Fairfax County (about a dozen). Then
tell us how many are from Calvert County, or Prince George's County.

http://tinyurl.com/63u655
--
John H.

On Dec 5, 4:37*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:03 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
ry.

And also, after reading further down the thread, Vietnam wasn't lost -
we gave up due to political pressure and dippy hippies who were
'ascared.

Ahhh...we didn't lose in Vietnam...we gave up.

Ah Harry - that's what I like about you - nothing is going to stand in
the way of ideology and "correct" thought.

Here - skip down to the Vietnam War part - although, here's a couple
of excerpts because I know you won't read it as it directly
contradicts your closely held beliefs.

Harry's making progress. *Last time he dicussed this he proclaimed, "We had
our asses kicked".
Now we simply "gave up".

Eisboch

I'd say that IS a sign of progressive thinking.