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Boater[_3_] December 3rd 08 12:18 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:48:34 -0500, BAR wrote:


Bin Laden is a non-event now, he is an emasculated feeble man.


How do you know that?



He doesn't.

JohnH[_4_] December 3rd 08 12:34 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:05:06 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:33:09 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Our misadventures in Afghanistan are as much to blame for the Muslim
world hating us as the cluster **** in Iraq.

When we told the world there was an acceptable number of innocents we
could kill in our search for one suspected terrorist it pretty much
sealed our reputation as terrorists ourselves.

BTW Graham hasn't been our senator for almost 4 years so this is
pretty old news.


Yup, we live in a ****ty country all right.

The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Maybe you should just go to Canada?


I love this country and I think we should defend it but what we are
doing in the mid east has nothing to do with defending America.
It is about defending Israel.


Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or Afghanistan.

But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11 was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

BAR[_3_] December 3rd 08 01:08 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:48:34 -0500, BAR wrote:


Bin Laden is a non-event now, he is an emasculated feeble man.


How do you know that?


He hides in caves. He is afraid to show himself in public. He is scared.

[email protected] December 3rd 08 02:17 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
On Dec 3, 7:34*am, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:05:06 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:33:09 -0500, JohnH
wrote:


Our misadventures in Afghanistan are as much to blame for the Muslim
world hating us as the cluster **** in Iraq.


When we told the world there was an acceptable number of innocents we
could kill in our search for one suspected terrorist it pretty much
sealed our reputation as terrorists ourselves.


BTW Graham hasn't been our senator for almost 4 years so this is
pretty old news.


Yup, we live in a ****ty country all right.


The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or Afghanistan.


Maybe you should just go to Canada?


I love this country and I think we should defend it but what we are
doing in the mid east has nothing to do with defending America.
It is about defending Israel.


Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or Afghanistan.

But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11 was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--
John H


Graham does, so do most of the Democrats running for congress. I guess
they forget that there were more attacks against America during the
previous administration. It just makes me cringe when I hear these
idiots say **** like "for the last 7 years". That was my point, they
care more about perpetrating the lie, than the country, they should be
voted out.

JohnH[_4_] December 3rd 08 10:31 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:48:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:34:16 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or Afghanistan.

But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11 was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--


No but I think our "Tomahawk diplomacy" where we believed we could
rain down death from the sky with impunity had something to do with
it. You notice we stopped showing those bomb sight camera shots on TV
right after that.
Some people seem to forget we bombed Iraq constantly throughout the
90s. We say we weren't really killing anyone, Al Jazerra was saying we
killed about 20,000 civilians. Who do you think they believed?


Iraq *did* invade Kuwait, right? Or was that retribution for something else
*we* did wrong?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Boater[_3_] December 3rd 08 10:40 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:48:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:34:16 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or Afghanistan.

But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11 was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--

No but I think our "Tomahawk diplomacy" where we believed we could
rain down death from the sky with impunity had something to do with
it. You notice we stopped showing those bomb sight camera shots on TV
right after that.
Some people seem to forget we bombed Iraq constantly throughout the
90s. We say we weren't really killing anyone, Al Jazerra was saying we
killed about 20,000 civilians. Who do you think they believed?


Iraq *did* invade Kuwait, right? Or was that retribution for something else
*we* did wrong?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*



It makes so much sense to kill civilians who had nothing to do with a
country's government's nastiness. Yep...winning the hearts and minds.

Most of the rational world will be pleased to see Bush back in Texas and
our country again being run by intelligent leaders who usually think
things through *before* invading the wrong country.

Calif Bill December 3rd 08 10:53 PM

Politics befrore security...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:48:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:34:16 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or
Afghanistan.
But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11 was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--
No but I think our "Tomahawk diplomacy" where we believed we could
rain down death from the sky with impunity had something to do with
it. You notice we stopped showing those bomb sight camera shots on TV
right after that.
Some people seem to forget we bombed Iraq constantly throughout the
90s. We say we weren't really killing anyone, Al Jazerra was saying we
killed about 20,000 civilians. Who do you think they believed?


Iraq *did* invade Kuwait, right? Or was that retribution for something
else
*we* did wrong?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*



It makes so much sense to kill civilians who had nothing to do with a
country's government's nastiness. Yep...winning the hearts and minds.

Most of the rational world will be pleased to see Bush back in Texas and
our country again being run by intelligent leaders who usually think
things through *before* invading the wrong country.


Maybe they should not have let the nasties rule the country. So the
civilians are also guilty. Just like Japan and Germany in WW2. Took lots
of civilians to support the troops.



Boater[_3_] December 3rd 08 10:58 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:48:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:34:16 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or
Afghanistan.
But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11 was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--
No but I think our "Tomahawk diplomacy" where we believed we could
rain down death from the sky with impunity had something to do with
it. You notice we stopped showing those bomb sight camera shots on TV
right after that.
Some people seem to forget we bombed Iraq constantly throughout the
90s. We say we weren't really killing anyone, Al Jazerra was saying we
killed about 20,000 civilians. Who do you think they believed?
Iraq *did* invade Kuwait, right? Or was that retribution for something
else
*we* did wrong?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


It makes so much sense to kill civilians who had nothing to do with a
country's government's nastiness. Yep...winning the hearts and minds.

Most of the rational world will be pleased to see Bush back in Texas and
our country again being run by intelligent leaders who usually think
things through *before* invading the wrong country.


Maybe they should not have let the nasties rule the country. So the
civilians are also guilty. Just like Japan and Germany in WW2. Took lots
of civilians to support the troops.



Obviously, you know nothing about pre-war or wartime Japanese society,
or the chokehold the Nazis had on Germany.


Calif Bill December 3rd 08 11:38 PM

Politics befrore security...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:48:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:34:16 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or
Afghanistan.
But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11
was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--
No but I think our "Tomahawk diplomacy" where we believed we could
rain down death from the sky with impunity had something to do with
it. You notice we stopped showing those bomb sight camera shots on TV
right after that.
Some people seem to forget we bombed Iraq constantly throughout the
90s. We say we weren't really killing anyone, Al Jazerra was saying we
killed about 20,000 civilians. Who do you think they believed?
Iraq *did* invade Kuwait, right? Or was that retribution for something
else
*we* did wrong?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

It makes so much sense to kill civilians who had nothing to do with a
country's government's nastiness. Yep...winning the hearts and minds.

Most of the rational world will be pleased to see Bush back in Texas and
our country again being run by intelligent leaders who usually think
things through *before* invading the wrong country.


Maybe they should not have let the nasties rule the country. So the
civilians are also guilty. Just like Japan and Germany in WW2. Took
lots of civilians to support the troops.


Obviously, you know nothing about pre-war or wartime Japanese society, or
the chokehold the Nazis had on Germany.


Does not matter. Still takes civilians to support the troops. You do not
think Germans would of bombed US civilians if they could?



Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] December 3rd 08 11:51 PM

Politics befrore security...
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:48:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:34:16 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Again - The Muslim world hated us well before either Iraq or
Afghanistan.
But, I'm glad to hear you love this country. I guess you think 9/11
was
because we invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
--
No but I think our "Tomahawk diplomacy" where we believed we could
rain down death from the sky with impunity had something to do with
it. You notice we stopped showing those bomb sight camera shots on TV
right after that.
Some people seem to forget we bombed Iraq constantly throughout the
90s. We say we weren't really killing anyone, Al Jazerra was saying we
killed about 20,000 civilians. Who do you think they believed?
Iraq *did* invade Kuwait, right? Or was that retribution for something
else
*we* did wrong?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
It makes so much sense to kill civilians who had nothing to do with a
country's government's nastiness. Yep...winning the hearts and minds.

Most of the rational world will be pleased to see Bush back in Texas and
our country again being run by intelligent leaders who usually think
things through *before* invading the wrong country.
Maybe they should not have let the nasties rule the country. So the
civilians are also guilty. Just like Japan and Germany in WW2. Took
lots of civilians to support the troops.

Obviously, you know nothing about pre-war or wartime Japanese society, or
the chokehold the Nazis had on Germany.


Does not matter. Still takes civilians to support the troops. You do not
think Germans would of bombed US civilians if they could?



The Germans were working on a way to bomb NYC. The Japanese actually
bombed Oregon and also sent Firebomb balloons across the Pacific to
randomly set fires along the west coast. Neither were very successful.
The firebomb balloons resulted in very little damage and a handful of
deaths.


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