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HK December 3rd 08 12:55 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
Boater wrote:
Or are you upset because I have revealed the "hidden" location of a
weapon?

Well, you can't just "open" that drawer.



Hand me a 5 lb hammer and stand back.

Eisboch



Would that be after your head was removed via a 12-gauge shotgun? :)


Damn, somehow that image was more than I wanted to imagine this morning.

I think I must be a wuss, when my kids were young, I never had a problem
with them watching a movie with nudity and mild sexual content, but I
would not allow them to watch violence, especially the blood and gore
horror films. I was always amazed that graphic violence would get a
PG-13 rating, nudity would get a R.



I'm not paranoid, but I do take the idea of home invasion seriously. I
would not hesitate to shoot and kill anyone other than a law enforcement
officer or fireman who broke into our house while we were home. Since I
am not a lawbreaker and I don't have or use an illicit drugs, I don't
anticipate any cops wanting to bust down our doors.

Naturally, whoever tried to bust in would not be Eisboch. Who would
trust him with a five pound hammer, anyway? :)


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Eisboch December 3rd 08 12:56 PM

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"hk" wrote in message
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Naturally, whoever tried to bust in would not be Eisboch. Who would trust
him with a five pound hammer, anyway? :)


I fix things with it.

Eisboch



Eisboch December 3rd 08 01:00 PM

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"hk" wrote in message
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I'm not paranoid, but I do take the idea of home invasion seriously. I
would not hesitate to shoot and kill anyone other than a law enforcement
officer or fireman who broke into our house while we were home. Since I am
not a lawbreaker and I don't have or use an illicit drugs, I don't
anticipate any cops wanting to bust down our doors.



I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently different
rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a home break-in. I
understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly force is justified
in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during daylight hours, there are
no guarantees that the home owner will be held harmless or not charged with
something.

Eisboch



D K December 4th 08 12:42 AM

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hk wrote:


I'm not paranoid, but I do take the idea of home invasion seriously. I
would not hesitate to shoot and kill anyone other than a law enforcement
officer or fireman who broke into our house while we were home. Since I
am not a lawbreaker and I don't have or use an illicit drugs, I don't
anticipate any cops wanting to bust down our doors.

Naturally, whoever tried to bust in would not be Eisboch. Who would
trust him with a five pound hammer, anyway? :)


#1 Yes, you are paranoid.

#2 How often do the police and firemen break into houses?

#3 You down own a home.

UglyDan®©™ December 4th 08 08:07 PM

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(Eisboch) wrote
I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently
different rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a home
break-in. * I understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly
force is justified in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during
daylight hours, there are no guarantees that the home owner will be held
harmless or not charged with something.
Eisboch

It could be a problem for anyone in MA that works swngshift.
Good night, Sleep tight. UD





HK December 4th 08 10:55 PM

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UglyDan®©™ wrote:
(Eisboch) wrote
I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently
different rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a home
break-in. I understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly
force is justified in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during
daylight hours, there are no guarantees that the home owner will be held
harmless or not charged with something.
Eisboch

It could be a problem for anyone in MA that works swngshift.
Good night, Sleep tight. UD





In Maryland, there is case law indicating duty to retreat does not apply
when attacked in one's home. Other exceptions to duty to retreat are
being the victim of a robbery, situations where the imminent peril of
attack makes retreat impossible or retreat would not remove the danger.

Ergo, if some drooler breaks into my house at night, I have no duty to
retreat. I'll simply shoot the sucker.

Massachusetts:

PART IV. CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGSIN CRIMINAL CASES

TITLE II. PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES

CHAPTER 278. TRIALS AND PROCEEDINGS BEFORE JUDGMENT

Chapter 278: Section 8A. Killing or injuring a person unlawfully in a
dwelling; defense

Section 8A. In the prosecution of a person who is an occupant of a
dwelling charged with killing or injuring one who was unlawfully in said
dwelling, it shall be a defense that the occupant was in his dwelling at
the time of the offense and that he acted in the reasonable belief that
the person unlawfully in said dwelling was about to inflict great bodily
injury or death upon said occupant or upon another person lawfully in
said dwelling, and that said occupant used reasonable means to defend
himself or such other person lawfully in said dwelling. There shall be
no duty on said occupant to retreat from such person unlawfully in said
dwelling.



About the same in Massachusetts as in Maryland in terms of effect. If
someone breaks into your house in Massachusetts, you can shoot him.
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JohnH[_4_] December 4th 08 11:03 PM

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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:55:08 -0500, hk wrote:

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
(Eisboch) wrote
I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently
different rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a home
break-in. I understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly
force is justified in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during
daylight hours, there are no guarantees that the home owner will be held
harmless or not charged with something.
Eisboch

It could be a problem for anyone in MA that works swngshift.
Good night, Sleep tight. UD





In Maryland, there is case law indicating duty to retreat does not apply
when attacked in one's home. Other exceptions to duty to retreat are
being the victim of a robbery, situations where the imminent peril of
attack makes retreat impossible or retreat would not remove the danger.

Ergo, if some drooler breaks into my house at night, I have no duty to
retreat. I'll simply shoot the sucker.

Sounds very 'manly' to me!
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Don White December 5th 08 12:52 AM

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:55:08 -0500, hk wrote:

UglyDan®©T wrote:
(Eisboch) wrote
I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently
different rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a home
break-in. I understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly
force is justified in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during
daylight hours, there are no guarantees that the home owner will be held
harmless or not charged with something.
Eisboch

It could be a problem for anyone in MA that works swngshift.
Good night, Sleep tight. UD





In Maryland, there is case law indicating duty to retreat does not apply
when attacked in one's home. Other exceptions to duty to retreat are
being the victim of a robbery, situations where the imminent peril of
attack makes retreat impossible or retreat would not remove the danger.

Ergo, if some drooler breaks into my house at night, I have no duty to
retreat. I'll simply shoot the sucker.

Sounds very 'manly' to me!
--
John H


What you know about "manly" wouldn't fill the head of a pin.



D K December 5th 08 01:19 AM

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Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:55:08 -0500, hk wrote:

UglyDan®©T wrote:
(Eisboch) wrote
I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently
different rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a home
break-in. I understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly
force is justified in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during
daylight hours, there are no guarantees that the home owner will be held
harmless or not charged with something.
Eisboch

It could be a problem for anyone in MA that works swngshift.
Good night, Sleep tight. UD




In Maryland, there is case law indicating duty to retreat does not apply
when attacked in one's home. Other exceptions to duty to retreat are
being the victim of a robbery, situations where the imminent peril of
attack makes retreat impossible or retreat would not remove the danger.

Ergo, if some drooler breaks into my house at night, I have no duty to
retreat. I'll simply shoot the sucker.

Sounds very 'manly' to me!
--
John H


What you know about "manly" wouldn't fill the head of a pin.



You are your son's keeper, his maid, and his bitch. Until you liberate
yourself from that lazy ass and grow a pair, STFU.


JohnH[_4_] December 5th 08 01:24 AM

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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:52:53 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:55:08 -0500, hk wrote:

UglyDan®©T wrote:
(Eisboch) wrote
I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently
different rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a home
break-in. I understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly
force is justified in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during
daylight hours, there are no guarantees that the home owner will be held
harmless or not charged with something.
Eisboch

It could be a problem for anyone in MA that works swngshift.
Good night, Sleep tight. UD





In Maryland, there is case law indicating duty to retreat does not apply
when attacked in one's home. Other exceptions to duty to retreat are
being the victim of a robbery, situations where the imminent peril of
attack makes retreat impossible or retreat would not remove the danger.

Ergo, if some drooler breaks into my house at night, I have no duty to
retreat. I'll simply shoot the sucker.

Sounds very 'manly' to me!
--
John H


What you know about "manly" wouldn't fill the head of a pin.


How would you know?

Should I buy more guns?

What a joke.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


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