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JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:14:05 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:47:51 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
It's funny. Even here in Washington DC, where we get our share of
burglaries,
You don't live in Washington, D.C. You live in Alexandria, Virginia,
Well, excuuuuuse me! I live close enough to DC that I see the local DC news
every night. You snipped the part about the dogs, Harry.

Again, how come I've never heard of any burglars shooting dogs, as you
suggest is so prevalent?


the cusp of Springfield. And you certainly get your share of burglaries
and violent crimes. thanks in no small part to La Mara Salvatrucha,
which is quite active in your area. If you think otherwise, just head on
over to Springfield Mall, or, closer, that Wal-Mart on South Van Dorn,
or, if you are too lazy to go there, the Safeway shopping center across
Franconia Road from you.

I've never had a lot of respect for the Fairfax County Police. When I
had my office in your neighborhood, I actually witnessed a drug deal
taking place across the parking lot. I called the cops; they showed up
45 minutes later, and the police station is right down the road a bit.
The county cops seem to spend most of their time looking for cars sans
county stickers.

If I lived in your neighborhood, I'd move.
What is it about liberals that causes them to demur, change the subject, or
start with the personal insults when asked a specific question?

Do you honestly think someone gives a rat's ass what you think of the
Fairfax County Police? Would you hold the Prince George's County Police up
as a fine example? Hee hee!

BTW, county stickers haven't been a requirement here for quite a while.

Whoops!
You live in a scary part of Fairfax County. I don't. You think the
presence of MS13 in your 'hood will impact the price you get for your
house when you move to the confederacy?

Since I spend as little time as possible in Fairfax County these days, I
wasn't aware it had done away with the tax stickers. It seems to have
done away with quality in its schools, too.

BTW, here's some info on Fairfax County Public Schools.

And that has what to do with MS-13 gang activities in your immediate area?

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:14:05 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:47:51 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
It's funny. Even here in Washington DC, where we get our share of
burglaries,

You don't live in Washington, D.C. You live in Alexandria, Virginia,

Well, excuuuuuse me! I live close enough to DC that I see the local DC news
every night. You snipped the part about the dogs, Harry.

Again, how come I've never heard of any burglars shooting dogs, as you
suggest is so prevalent?


the cusp of Springfield. And you certainly get your share of burglaries
and violent crimes. thanks in no small part to La Mara Salvatrucha,
which is quite active in your area. If you think otherwise, just head on
over to Springfield Mall, or, closer, that Wal-Mart on South Van Dorn,
or, if you are too lazy to go there, the Safeway shopping center across
Franconia Road from you.

I've never had a lot of respect for the Fairfax County Police. When I
had my office in your neighborhood, I actually witnessed a drug deal
taking place across the parking lot. I called the cops; they showed up
45 minutes later, and the police station is right down the road a bit.
The county cops seem to spend most of their time looking for cars sans
county stickers.

If I lived in your neighborhood, I'd move.

What is it about liberals that causes them to demur, change the subject, or
start with the personal insults when asked a specific question?

Do you honestly think someone gives a rat's ass what you think of the
Fairfax County Police? Would you hold the Prince George's County Police up
as a fine example? Hee hee!

BTW, county stickers haven't been a requirement here for quite a while.

Whoops!

You live in a scary part of Fairfax County. I don't. You think the
presence of MS13 in your 'hood will impact the price you get for your
house when you move to the confederacy?

Since I spend as little time as possible in Fairfax County these days, I
wasn't aware it had done away with the tax stickers. It seems to have
done away with quality in its schools, too.

BTW, here's some info on Fairfax County Public Schools.


The Fairfax County Public School System is nationally recognized for its
academic excellence. With a $2.2 billion budget, the school system offers a
full range of secondary school options, including the well known Thomas
Jefferson School for Science and Technology.

Among the school system's many achievements a

*

Ninety-one percent of high school graduates go on to some form of
post-secondary education;
*

Expansion Management magazine named Fairfax County Public Schools
system a "gold medal" district. Fairfax schools received the highest score
of any large U.S. school system;
*

Two hundred Fairfax County Public School students were National Merit
Scholars.

The Fairfax County business community is very active in the public schools,
providing technology assistance, grants, mentoring programs and a host of
other activities. Annually, some 77,000 volunteers donate more than a
million hours of their time and expertise to the school system.
Average SAT I Scores (2008)
Fairfax County 1,654
Virginia 1,522
U.S. 1,511

Where does Prince Georges County fall, Harry?
--
John H.

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:20:07 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:

You live in a scary part of Fairfax County. I don't. You think the
presence of MS13 in your 'hood will impact the price you get for your
house when you move to the confederacy?

Since I spend as little time as possible in Fairfax County these days, I
wasn't aware it had done away with the tax stickers. It seems to have
done away with quality in its schools, too.

Alexandria is scary? Been to DC lately? Been anywhere in PG County lately.

Why the racist comments about the Mexican folk who live in my neighborhood?
Do you consider all Hispanics to be members of MS 13?

Why have you changed your attitude so much with regard to personal insults?
You've jumped back into the **** with both feet. Do you find it extremely
difficult to refrain from the name-calling, etc. Do you find 'personal
responsibility' (your words) such a hard thing to live with?


I don't find many parts of Alexandria scary, but you are quite a
distance from the better parts of that town. You're adjacent to
Springfield, and MS 13 is within walking distance of your house.

I did not say or imply the "Mexicans" who live in your 'hood were gang
members. MS-13 is active in your area. Its members are mostly of
Salvadoran descent, not Mexican descent. There also are MS-13 elements
in Maryland, but not in my 'hood.

We have the usual white boy drug manufacturers out here in ruralville.
Fortunately, the local sheriff tries hard to stay on top of the boys and
bust them out fairly frequently.

Harry, I am almost exactly midway between downtown Alexandria and downtown
Springfield. I am surprised you don't know this, 'cause I'm sure you've
looked at my location many times.

Walking distance to MS 13? Probably. Anywhere in the greater DC metro area
will be within walking distance of a member of MS 13.

What do you suggest, that I buy several handguns, brag about them
continuously, poke pencil holes in a target and post it, and just generally
pretend I'm a 'bad ass'. Harry, there is at least one *real* bad ass in the
group. I won't mention any names. But, I'm sure he is laughing at your
continuous pretenses about same. I know I am.
--
John H.

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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:19:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...


Since I spend as little time as possible in Fairfax County these days, I
wasn't aware it had done away with the tax stickers. It seems to have done
away with quality in its schools, too.


Apparently there's a good one only about 12-15 miles away in nearby
Alexandria:

http://www.usnews.com/articles/educa...ools-list.html



Fairfax County has one of the best systems in the USA, and Harry well knows
it.
--
John H.

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JohnH wrote:


Harry, do you feel a little dense?

Compared to you? I feel like a rocket scientist.

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:22:41 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:14:05 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:47:51 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
It's funny. Even here in Washington DC, where we get our share of
burglaries,
You don't live in Washington, D.C. You live in Alexandria, Virginia,
Well, excuuuuuse me! I live close enough to DC that I see the local DC news
every night. You snipped the part about the dogs, Harry.

Again, how come I've never heard of any burglars shooting dogs, as you
suggest is so prevalent?


the cusp of Springfield. And you certainly get your share of burglaries
and violent crimes. thanks in no small part to La Mara Salvatrucha,
which is quite active in your area. If you think otherwise, just head on
over to Springfield Mall, or, closer, that Wal-Mart on South Van Dorn,
or, if you are too lazy to go there, the Safeway shopping center across
Franconia Road from you.

I've never had a lot of respect for the Fairfax County Police. When I
had my office in your neighborhood, I actually witnessed a drug deal
taking place across the parking lot. I called the cops; they showed up
45 minutes later, and the police station is right down the road a bit.
The county cops seem to spend most of their time looking for cars sans
county stickers.

If I lived in your neighborhood, I'd move.
What is it about liberals that causes them to demur, change the subject, or
start with the personal insults when asked a specific question?

Do you honestly think someone gives a rat's ass what you think of the
Fairfax County Police? Would you hold the Prince George's County Police up
as a fine example? Hee hee!

BTW, county stickers haven't been a requirement here for quite a while.

Whoops!
You live in a scary part of Fairfax County. I don't. You think the
presence of MS13 in your 'hood will impact the price you get for your
house when you move to the confederacy?

Since I spend as little time as possible in Fairfax County these days, I
wasn't aware it had done away with the tax stickers. It seems to have
done away with quality in its schools, too.

BTW, here's some info on Fairfax County Public Schools.

And that has what to do with MS-13 gang activities in your immediate area?

The same as your statement, " It seems to have done away with quality in
its schools, too."

Harry, do you feel a little dense?
--
John H.

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:44:14 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:


Harry, do you feel a little dense?

Compared to you? I feel like a rocket scientist.

Why do you continuously delete the 'good' stuff?
--
John H.

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D K wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:55:08 -0500, hk wrote:

UglyDan®©T wrote:
(Eisboch) wrote
I don't know about all states, but here in MA there are apparently
different rules regarding the use of deadly force in the event of a
home
break-in. I understand that if the break-in occurs at night, deadly
force is justified in the eyes of the courts, but if it occurs during
daylight hours, there are no guarantees that the home owner will be
held
harmless or not charged with something.
Eisboch

It could be a problem for anyone in MA that works swngshift.
Good night, Sleep tight. UD




In Maryland, there is case law indicating duty to retreat does not
apply
when attacked in one's home. Other exceptions to duty to retreat are
being the victim of a robbery, situations where the imminent peril of
attack makes retreat impossible or retreat would not remove the danger.

Ergo, if some drooler breaks into my house at night, I have no duty to
retreat. I'll simply shoot the sucker.

Sounds very 'manly' to me!
--
John H


What you know about "manly" wouldn't fill the head of a pin.


You are your son's keeper, his maid, and his bitch. Until you liberate
yourself from that lazy ass and grow a pair, STFU.


crickets as expected.

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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

About the same in Massachusetts as in Maryland in terms of effect. If
someone breaks into your house in Massachusetts, you can shoot him.

Unfortunately I cannot cite the reference, but there was a talk radio
program out of Boston last week discussing this issue. Apparently it is
not as clear cut as Section 8A implies (which was the basis of the
discussion). According to the MA attorney general, who was a guest on
the show, the court system treats a daytime break in differently than
one occuring at night.

Eisboch


If the DA believes unreasonable force was used by the homeowner, and if
it goes to court with a jury, the jury will decide if the gun owner
acting in a reasonable manner. Just because someone is in your house and
you shot him, does not necessarily mean the occupant used reasonable
means to defend himself.

Oh...what would you do with an intruder in your house who was threatening
you? Call Eisboch for a consult? :)



Don't call me, I haven't a clue.
But I think we were discussing the "right" to use deadly force. The
statutes don't clearly identify when one has that right other than a
"reasonable" act of self defense or defense of another occupant.
Who defines "reasonable".

The Courts.

That's what we are talking about, not a god given right to blow an
intruder's head off.
What if the intruder is indoxicated? A kid? Half your size and unarmed?

In MA, the courts apparently view the "reasonableness" differently in the
night/day justification to use deadly force because at night you may not be
able to determine some of the details.

Eisboch



In FL the laws actually favor the "victims". Here's WIKI's take on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine

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JT wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
Hmm, what do we have here?

Unbelievable!

http://www.snidelyworld.com/Humor/Upgrade.htm



Tim's a good guy. If that was directed at him, you can move on.