On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:26:25 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the
net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it.

I'm not familiar with the history of that issue.

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:35:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:26:25 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the
net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it.

I'm not familiar with the history of that issue.

It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.

The issue revolved around the nature of emergency communications and
the circumvention of the international phone system at the time - as
in using ham radio to avoid long distance charges for non-essential
and non-emergency communications.

It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. :)

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:29:28 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the
net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it.

I'm not familiar with the history of that issue.

It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.

The issue revolved around the nature of emergency communications and
the circumvention of the international phone system at the time - as
in using ham radio to avoid long distance charges for non-essential
and non-emergency communications.

It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. :)

========================

Interesting. Just like the internet, always a nut case somewhere
wanting to be heard.

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:27:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:29:28 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In particular that whole KV4FZ thing which did a lot of damage to the
net which lasts to this day even if they don't want to admit it.

I'm not familiar with the history of that issue.

It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.

The issue revolved around the nature of emergency communications and
the circumvention of the international phone system at the time - as
in using ham radio to avoid long distance charges for non-essential
and non-emergency communications.

It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. :)

========================

Interesting. Just like the internet, always a nut case somewhere
wanting to be heard.

Heh...

And, just like here, he brought along all his buddies and fellow
travelers.

On Dec 1, 9:29*am, Tom Francis - SWSports

It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. *There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. *He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.


It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. *:)

On Dec 1, 9:29*am, Tom Francis - SWSports

It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. *There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. *He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.


It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. *:)

Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media.


?;^ Q

Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.


It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. :)

Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media.


?;^ Q


This is rec.boats? I thought it was wimps.try.to.get.to.harry :)

On Dec 1, 12:24*pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. *There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. *He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.

It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. *:)

Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media.

?;^ Q

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Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 12:24 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.
It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. :)
Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media.
?;^ Q
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LOL!


They're forming a new newsgroup, wimps'r'us

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:45:57 -0500, Boater wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 12:24 pm, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:29 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
It's a long story - suffice it to say that KV4FZ turned 14.313 into a
freak show and when the MMN moved to 14.300 to avoid all the nonsense,
he moved right down there and did his thing all over again. There
were periods of time during his most active "interventions" when you
never knew where the MMN was on the General portion of 20 meters. He
also had a cadre who would follow his lead and "intervene" in
communications.
It eventually turned out that he was doing it both for himself and
others only it didn't involve ham radio. :)
Same thing here on rec.boats, only a different media.
?;^ Q
This is rec.boats? I thought it was wimps.try.to.get.to.harry :)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

LOL!


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