A dirty gun...
 

....is a safe gun.

Nov 28, 11:59 PM EST

Ohio police chief accidentally shoots himself



MONROE, Ohio (AP) -- Police in southwestern Ohio say a police chief
mistakenly shot himself in the thigh after giving his daughter a gun
safety lesson.

A police report says 54-year-old Middletown police Chief Greg Schwarber
was preparing to clean his Glock .45-caliber pistol on Friday and didn't
realize the gun was still loaded.

The report written by officers from neighboring Monroe says the bullet
entered Schwarber's leg just above the knee.

When officers arrived, they found the chief lying on the floor with a
towel covering his leg. Schwarber was taken to a hospital for treatment.

The hospital had no record of Schwarber being treated or admitted. A
home phone number for him couldn't be found.

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Information from: Journal, http://wwww.middletownjournal.com

A dirty gun...
 

On Nov 30, 5:34*pm, Boater wrote:
...is a safe gun.

Nov 28, 11:59 PM EST

Ohio police chief accidentally shoots himself

MONROE, Ohio (AP) -- Police in southwestern Ohio say a police chief
mistakenly shot himself in the thigh after giving his daughter a gun
safety lesson.

A police report says 54-year-old Middletown police Chief Greg Schwarber
was preparing to clean his Glock .45-caliber pistol on Friday and didn't
realize the gun was still loaded.

The report written by officers from neighboring Monroe says the bullet
entered Schwarber's leg just above the knee.

When officers arrived, they found the chief lying on the floor with a
towel covering his leg. Schwarber was taken to a hospital for treatment.

The hospital had no record of Schwarber being treated or admitted. A
home phone number for him couldn't be found.

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Information from: Journal,http://wwww.middletownjournal.com

It's always amazing to hear storied abotu experienced people violating
gun safty.

Why do people do that?

"The report written by officers from neighboring Monroe says the
bullet entered Schwarber's leg just above the knee."

A 45ACP? makes you wonder if he had a leg left?

" Schwarber was taken to a hospital for treatment.The hospital had no
record of Schwarber being treated or admitted. ..."

Huh?

A dirty gun...
 

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote:

...is a safe gun.

I hope no one believes that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

A dirty gun...
 

On Nov 30, 6:41*pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 30, 5:34*pm, Boater wrote:





...is a safe gun.

Nov 28, 11:59 PM EST

Ohio police chief accidentally shoots himself

MONROE, Ohio (AP) -- Police in southwestern Ohio say a police chief
mistakenly shot himself in the thigh after giving his daughter a gun
safety lesson.

A police report says 54-year-old Middletown police Chief Greg Schwarber
was preparing to clean his Glock .45-caliber pistol on Friday and didn't
realize the gun was still loaded.

The report written by officers from neighboring Monroe says the bullet
entered Schwarber's leg just above the knee.

When officers arrived, they found the chief lying on the floor with a
towel covering his leg. Schwarber was taken to a hospital for treatment..

The hospital had no record of Schwarber being treated or admitted. A
home phone number for him couldn't be found.

---

Information from: Journal,http://wwww.middletownjournal.com

It's always amazing to hear storied abotu experienced people violating
gun safty.

Why do people do that?

"The report written by officers from neighboring Monroe says the
bullet entered Schwarber's leg just above the knee."

A 45ACP? makes you wonder if he had a leg left?

" Schwarber was taken to a hospital for treatment.The hospital had no
record of Schwarber being treated or admitted. ..."

Huh?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My dad taught me there is no such thing as an "unloaded" gun, more
people get killed with "unloaded" guns each year.... I was at a party
once and an inlaw was showing us a pistol. I asked him why he was
waving it around and he said, "it's ok, it's not loaed". I grabbed my
wife and kid and left for the 100 mile trip home, right before
dinner....idiot...

A dirty gun...
 

On Nov 30, 6:04*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote:
...is a safe gun.

I hope no one believes that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident.

I did verify on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1

A dirty gun...
 

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Nov 30, 6:04*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote:
...is a safe gun.

I hope no one believes that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident.

I did verify on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1

Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the
body).

I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

A dirty gun...
 

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote:
...is a safe gun.
I hope no one believes that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident.

I did verify on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1

Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the
body).

I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings
related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was
"safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police
apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd
think cops would know better, but...no, they don't.

A dirty gun...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater
wrote:
...is a safe gun.
I hope no one believes that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident.

I did verify on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1

Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the
body).

I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. --
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related
to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It
was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot
himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know
better, but...no, they don't.


~~ Snerk ~~
Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training
in the US Army?

A dirty gun...
 

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:28:46 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote:
...is a safe gun.
I hope no one believes that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident.

I did verify on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1

Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the
body).

I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings
related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was
"safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police
apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd
think cops would know better, but...no, they don't.

OK.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

A dirty gun...
 

Don White wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater
wrote:
...is a safe gun.
I hope no one believes that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident.

I did verify on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1
Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the
body).

I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. --
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related
to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It
was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot
himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know
better, but...no, they don't.


~~ Snerk ~~
Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training
in the US Army?




From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after
"qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual.

There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range
I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly
frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and
there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their
non-military buddies.

There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or
military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real
marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by
far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet.

Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I
never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure.

Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms
course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few
police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters.