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A dirty gun...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:41:36 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? Not unless they're being assigned a new weapon in a new theater of operations. Then they'll undergo an orientation course. Most weapons training occurs during basic training, with annual requalifications thereafter. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
A dirty gun...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:03:42 -0500, Boater wrote:
Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters. The real good military shooters don't waste time at civilian ranges. Most decent sized military installations have Rod and Gun Clubs with ranges on the installation. The ones you see in the civilian ranges are probably just too embarrassed to join the local Rod and Gun Club. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
A dirty gun...
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:03:42 -0500, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters. The real good military shooters don't waste time at civilian ranges. Most decent sized military installations have Rod and Gun Clubs with ranges on the installation. The ones you see in the civilian ranges are probably just too embarrassed to join the local Rod and Gun Club. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* I'm a bit curious about the 6 week small arms course that Harry supposedly took. How could he afford to take that amount of time from his busy work schedule to attend? Why would he take a course like that? He must be scared of something. On the other hand it could all be a figment of his over active imagination. |
A dirty gun...
On Dec 1, 9:03*am, Boater wrote:
Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? *From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few * police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Holy ****! The narcissitic asshole now wants everyone here to believe he's SO much better at the firing range than "uniformed guys". |
A dirty gun...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:51:18 -0500, jim wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:03:42 -0500, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters. The real good military shooters don't waste time at civilian ranges. Most decent sized military installations have Rod and Gun Clubs with ranges on the installation. The ones you see in the civilian ranges are probably just too embarrassed to join the local Rod and Gun Club. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* I'm a bit curious about the 6 week small arms course that Harry supposedly took. How could he afford to take that amount of time from his busy work schedule to attend? Why would he take a course like that? He must be scared of something. On the other hand it could all be a figment of his over active imagination. Maybe through the SIU. They apparently provide small arms training. I don't know how it could take six weeks, unless they also provide training in small arms repair. Hell, Army Basic Training only took 8 weeks when I went through. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
A dirty gun...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:25:06 -0500, JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:51:18 -0500, jim wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:03:42 -0500, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters. The real good military shooters don't waste time at civilian ranges. Most decent sized military installations have Rod and Gun Clubs with ranges on the installation. The ones you see in the civilian ranges are probably just too embarrassed to join the local Rod and Gun Club. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* I'm a bit curious about the 6 week small arms course that Harry supposedly took. How could he afford to take that amount of time from his busy work schedule to attend? Why would he take a course like that? He must be scared of something. On the other hand it could all be a figment of his over active imagination. Maybe through the SIU. They apparently provide small arms training. I don't know how it could take six weeks, unless they also provide training in small arms repair. Hell, Army Basic Training only took 8 weeks when I went through. Whoops. Forgot the URL: http://tinyurl.com/6d2rov -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
A dirty gun...
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:51:18 -0500, jim wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:03:42 -0500, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters. The real good military shooters don't waste time at civilian ranges. Most decent sized military installations have Rod and Gun Clubs with ranges on the installation. The ones you see in the civilian ranges are probably just too embarrassed to join the local Rod and Gun Club. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* I'm a bit curious about the 6 week small arms course that Harry supposedly took. How could he afford to take that amount of time from his busy work schedule to attend? Why would he take a course like that? He must be scared of something. On the other hand it could all be a figment of his over active imagination. Maybe through the SIU. They apparently provide small arms training. I don't know how it could take six weeks, unless they also provide training in small arms repair. Hell, Army Basic Training only took 8 weeks when I went through. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* One evening a week, 2-1/2 hours an evening, six weeks, John Herring. |
A dirty gun...
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:25:06 -0500, JohnH wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:51:18 -0500, jim wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:03:42 -0500, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters. The real good military shooters don't waste time at civilian ranges. Most decent sized military installations have Rod and Gun Clubs with ranges on the installation. The ones you see in the civilian ranges are probably just too embarrassed to join the local Rod and Gun Club. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* I'm a bit curious about the 6 week small arms course that Harry supposedly took. How could he afford to take that amount of time from his busy work schedule to attend? Why would he take a course like that? He must be scared of something. On the other hand it could all be a figment of his over active imagination. Maybe through the SIU. They apparently provide small arms training. I don't know how it could take six weeks, unless they also provide training in small arms repair. Hell, Army Basic Training only took 8 weeks when I went through. Whoops. Forgot the URL: http://tinyurl.com/6d2rov -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Wrong union. I am a professional writer/bricklayer. I have approached the Bricklayers Union with the idea of instituting a small arms precision brick cracking course. The only response I've gotten so far was "You sure are a dumb foch, Harry Krause." |
A dirty gun...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:34:29 -0500, Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:51:18 -0500, jim wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:03:42 -0500, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:44 -0500, Boater wrote: ...is a safe gun. I hope no one believes that. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* evidently somebody did. he shot himself by accident. I did verify on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081129/...ce_chief_gun_1 Harry said, "A dirty gun... (in the header) ...is a safe gun. (in the body). I hope no one believes that a dirty gun is a safe gun. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Gosh...the point was that there are so many accidental shootings related to gun cleaning, that it seemed that leaving the gun dirty was "safer." It was meant as a joke, especially since a chief of police apparently shot himself while cleaning a supposedly empty gun. You'd think cops would know better, but...no, they don't. ~~ Snerk ~~ Just wondering, do officers from the rank of Major up get firearms training in the US Army? From what I've seen at the range, real training seems to stop after "qualification" unless more training is pursued by the individual. There are plenty of active and ex-military shooters at the indoor range I frequent. It's a handgun or .22LR rifle range only, and is mostly frequented by the boys in blue (cops), but it's right near a base and there are frequently military guys in there shooting with their non-military buddies. There are very few good shooters among the uniformed guys, cops or military. I'm not saying there are none. There are some who are real marksmen with sidearms. But most I see don't shoot well. The cops are by far the worst, even at relatively short distances, like, oh, 21 feet. Now, I would assume the military guys are more adept with rifles. But I never see them shoot them, so I don't know for sure. Another range, one in Virginia where I took a six week small arms course, has an entirely different clientele, very few military, very few police, but an awfully high number of really good shooters. The real good military shooters don't waste time at civilian ranges. Most decent sized military installations have Rod and Gun Clubs with ranges on the installation. The ones you see in the civilian ranges are probably just too embarrassed to join the local Rod and Gun Club. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* I'm a bit curious about the 6 week small arms course that Harry supposedly took. How could he afford to take that amount of time from his busy work schedule to attend? Why would he take a course like that? He must be scared of something. On the other hand it could all be a figment of his over active imagination. Maybe through the SIU. They apparently provide small arms training. I don't know how it could take six weeks, unless they also provide training in small arms repair. Hell, Army Basic Training only took 8 weeks when I went through. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* One evening a week, 2-1/2 hours an evening, six weeks, John Herring. Oh, OK. 18 hours sounds more reasonable than 6 weeks! -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
A dirty gun...
Boater wrote:
...is a safe gun. Nov 28, 11:59 PM EST Ohio police chief accidentally shoots himself Only someone experienced should handle a gun. Here is someone who knows how to properly handle a handgun. The best line is "I am the only one in this room qualified to handle a glock 40" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAVYFRM5Tl8 |
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