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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] November 28th 08 09:12 PM

Best camera for light use?
 
Jim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem
to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be
be somewhat obsolete every three or four years
vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years
.My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be
artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery.
The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's
auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings.

It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased
with the quality.

As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be
obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer
improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you
can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will
have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras.


Just curious. What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera?


The shutter and mirror mechanisms are a problem with both digital and
film. It needs to flip up to take the photo, but not allow any light
through when it is in the down position. They can lock up or lose
there ability to close completely and not allow any light to pass
through. My wife had an old film camera that the foam around the
mirror (to block the light in the down position), dried up and needed
to be replaced. It was not worth the expense to repair.

With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad
pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard
anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem.


I have a Cannon A7 that had the sensor wash out. The camera was 3 yrs
old at the time. Turns out it was a known problem and Canon replaced the
image sensor for free. Turn around time was 1 week. I was very
impressed. We went on a trip last month and I forgot my camera. I picked
up a Canon 470. Turns out it is a very nice camera for casual snapshot
takers like myself and the wife.


My son used the Canon 470 when he traveled to SE Asia, India and Africa.
He started with the Canon A570, it was stolen from his room, and he
purchased a Canon 470. They both took great photos of his trip.

[email protected] November 28th 08 09:54 PM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Nov 28, 11:17*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera..
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to
hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00..
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be
somewhat obsolete every three or four years
*vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My
usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I
do like to do justice to scenery.
The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto
settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings.


It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with
the quality.


As far as the "obsolete" factor. *The digital cameras will only be
obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved
digital cameras. *If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over
100,000 photos from the D40. *A digital camera will have an expectant
average life similar to the average film cameras.


The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the
processer.
I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide
compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact.
Dramatic difference!
Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop *and focus
manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR)
I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts
can do.


There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your
shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did
not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs
DSLR. *I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen
in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera
impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the
camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize
the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or
purse easily. *Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a
camera and never miss a shot. *If you think about it, the best camera is
the one you have with you.


That's what so nice about the Kodak, it can be used to look at the
screen and also has an eyepiece to see through so you can steady it
under the rim of your "outback" if you wear one;) The rim of the hat
makes it nice in all lighting situations...

I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. *It not
only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as
a SLR and see your composition in bright light. *It is not as tiny as
most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in
your pants pocket.

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Tom Francis - SWSports November 28th 08 10:03 PM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold
its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be
somewhat obsolete every three or four years
vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My
usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do
like to do justice to scenery.


If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.

Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. In particular as
you can get them for under $100.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351

You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.

If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.

Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. :)

My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316

Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.

Tim November 28th 08 10:30 PM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold
its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be
somewhat obsolete every three or four years
vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My
usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do
like to do justice to scenery.


If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.

Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as
you can get them for under $100.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351

You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.

If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.

Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:)

My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316

Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.


Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a
Fugifilm s-700 and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't
downloaded a one of them yet.

Eh, my daughter will figure it out.

Tim November 28th 08 10:35 PM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Nov 28, 4:30*pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports



wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White"


wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold
its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be
somewhat obsolete every three or four years
vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My
usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do
like to do justice to scenery.


If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.


Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as
you can get them for under $100.


http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351


You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.


If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.


Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:)


My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.


http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316


Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.


Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a
Fugifilm s-700 *and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't
downloaded a one of them yet.

Eh, my daughter will figure it out.


Yeah, there it is:

http://www.dcviews.com/press/images/Fujifilm-S700.jpg

JohnH[_3_] November 28th 08 10:51 PM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold
its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be
somewhat obsolete every three or four years
vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My
usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do
like to do justice to scenery.


If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.

Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as
you can get them for under $100.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351

You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.

If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.

Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:)

My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316

Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.


Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a
Fugifilm s-700 and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't
downloaded a one of them yet.

Eh, my daughter will figure it out.


And why, pray tell, have you not downloaded any yet? You mean they're still
in the camera?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Don White November 28th 08 11:56 PM

Best camera for light use?
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.

Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. In particular as
you can get them for under $100.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351

You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.

If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.

Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. :)

My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316

Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.



I'm looking at my December issue of Consumer Reports and they list two
Olympus models in the 'subcompact' catagory...
the FE-340 in 8th place
and Stylus 1010 in 14th
neither is "recommended" by Consumers
No Olympus cameras in the 'compact' catagory but two models are listed in
the 'Superzoom' section.
the SP-570 UZ at 8th place
and SP-560 UZ at 13th. .......... neither checked off as "recommended"

I found that Canon A650 IS at Best Buy (internet purchase only) at $230.00
If I go to a DSLR, I think I'd throw an extra $120.00 and get the Nikon D60
rather than the D40 which only has 6.1 megpixels.
(I know, they say 6 is all you need)

Funny thing about Consumers...if I go to their website, it's a bit different
than Decembers magazine... the Canon A560 IS doesn't show up there after
being rated #1 in the compact section in the magazine.



Tim November 29th 08 12:03 AM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Nov 28, 4:51*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White"


wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera..
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold
its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00..
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be
somewhat obsolete every three or four years
vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My
usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do
like to do justice to scenery.


If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.


Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as
you can get them for under $100.


http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351


You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.


If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.


Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:)


My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.


http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316


Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.


Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a
Fugifilm s-700 *and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't
downloaded a one of them yet.


Eh, my daughter will figure it out.


And why, pray tell, have you not downloaded any yet? You mean they're still
in the camera?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


uh-huh.

I just haven't.... yet

BTW, who should I hook up with for photo hosting? Photobucket?
Google? these seem to be quite popular. Ups, downs, drawbacks?


JohnH[_3_] November 29th 08 12:20 AM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:03:55 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:51*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White"


wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold
its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf.
Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN
for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact.
I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.
I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be
somewhat obsolete every three or four years
vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My
usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do
like to do justice to scenery.


If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.


Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as
you can get them for under $100.


http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351


You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.


If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.


Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:)


My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.


http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316


Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.


Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a
Fugifilm s-700 *and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't
downloaded a one of them yet.


Eh, my daughter will figure it out.


And why, pray tell, have you not downloaded any yet? You mean they're still
in the camera?
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*


uh-huh.

I just haven't.... yet

BTW, who should I hook up with for photo hosting? Photobucket?
Google? these seem to be quite popular. Ups, downs, drawbacks?


I use photobucket. It's free, does a pretty quick job of uploading, and the
default size is 800x600, which fits Chuck's Place and is a good size for a
15" monitor.

For family stuff, I'll upload a series (album) to the Costco site. We have
Costco print them, 'cause they're cheap and do a good job. I can also let
my daughters have access so they can print the ones they want.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Tom Francis - SWSports November 29th 08 12:21 AM

Best camera for light use?
 
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:56:56 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the
Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at.

Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. In particular as
you can get them for under $100.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351

You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do.

If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little
underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a
higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced
cameras.

Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. :)

My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and
shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. I really like this camera
as a point and shoot.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316

Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do.



I'm looking at my December issue of Consumer Reports


There's your problem right there...


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