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Best camera for light use?
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.
This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. |
Best camera for light use?
On Nov 28, 9:12*am, "Don White" wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years *vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Most of the shots and vids for that matter he http://www.rowdymouseracing.com were taken with one of these: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/servi...path=3921/1141 Not quite a "purse" camera with it's cube shape. but easy to hole and control, nice German lens, and big zoom.... Does me fine for just recording history.. |
Best camera for light use?
Don White wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Either one of those are good. My wife has a Canon A710, which has been replaced by one with a slightly higher number. It is a fantastic little camera. You want optical zoom on those, not digital. The Nikon D40 is fine, but you are right...they go obsolete...about every year. :) |
Best camera for light use?
Don White wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. |
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Boater wrote:
Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Either one of those are good. My wife has a Canon A710, which has been replaced by one with a slightly higher number. It is a fantastic little camera. You want optical zoom on those, not digital. The Nikon D40 is fine, but you are right...they go obsolete...about every year. :) You are using the term obsolete, to mean that it is not the latest and greatest camera in it's category. Except for minor cleaning and re-setting the camera to specs, the average digital camera is good for about 100,000 exposures before it is time to trash it. My guess is Don will never take 100,000 exposures. As long as he is happy with the quality of his photos, the D40 will have a longer life than Don. ;) |
Best camera for light use?
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. Just curious. What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera? |
Best camera for light use?
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote: Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Either one of those are good. My wife has a Canon A710, which has been replaced by one with a slightly higher number. It is a fantastic little camera. You want optical zoom on those, not digital. The Nikon D40 is fine, but you are right...they go obsolete...about every year. :) You are using the term obsolete, to mean that it is not the latest and greatest camera in it's category. Except for minor cleaning and re-setting the camera to specs, the average digital camera is good for about 100,000 exposures before it is time to trash it. My guess is Don will never take 100,000 exposures. As long as he is happy with the quality of his photos, the D40 will have a longer life than Don. ;) My favorite camera is older than you are, I'm guessing. 35mm rangefinder, from the mid to late 1950s. |
Best camera for light use?
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. |
Best camera for light use?
On Nov 28, 8:12*am, "Don White" wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years *vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. "Best camera for light use?" What else. 35mm disposables. That's about as light of use as you can get. |
Best camera for light use?
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. Just curious. What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera? The shutter and mirror mechanisms are a problem with both digital and film. It needs to flip up to take the photo, but not allow any light through when it is in the down position. They can lock up or lose there ability to close completely and not allow any light to pass through. My wife had an old film camera that the foam around the mirror (to block the light in the down position), dried up and needed to be replaced. It was not worth the expense to repair. With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem. Thanks. That's just about what I was thinking. |
Best camera for light use?
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. Just curious. What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera? The shutter and mirror mechanisms are a problem with both digital and film. It needs to flip up to take the photo, but not allow any light through when it is in the down position. They can lock up or lose there ability to close completely and not allow any light to pass through. My wife had an old film camera that the foam around the mirror (to block the light in the down position), dried up and needed to be replaced. It was not worth the expense to repair. With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem. |
Best camera for light use?
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: Boater wrote: Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Either one of those are good. My wife has a Canon A710, which has been replaced by one with a slightly higher number. It is a fantastic little camera. You want optical zoom on those, not digital. The Nikon D40 is fine, but you are right...they go obsolete...about every year. :) You are using the term obsolete, to mean that it is not the latest and greatest camera in it's category. Except for minor cleaning and re-setting the camera to specs, the average digital camera is good for about 100,000 exposures before it is time to trash it. My guess is Don will never take 100,000 exposures. As long as he is happy with the quality of his photos, the D40 will have a longer life than Don. ;) My favorite camera is older than you are, I'm guessing. 35mm rangefinder, from the mid to late 1950s. Rangefinders are a simple camera without the complex mechanism of a SLR. Leica is known for their excellent quality, but Leica does have a very busy service center to repair and service their Rangefinder cameras. Since Leica is a simple, quality and expensive camera, it is normally worth the cost to repair and service the camera. With a $500 DSLR, it makes more sense to replace the camera, with a new one with the latest features, than spend $300 to replace the mirror/shutter or image sensor on an older camera. |
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On Nov 28, 10:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message m... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years *vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. *The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. *If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. *A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. Just curious. *What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera? The shutter and mirror mechanisms are a problem with both digital and film. *It needs to flip up to take the photo, but not allow any light through when it is in the down position. *They can lock up or lose there ability to close completely and not allow any light to pass through. My wife had an old film camera that the foam around the mirror (to block the light in the down position), dried up and needed to be replaced. *It was not worth the expense to repair. With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My best 35mm was a Pentax, believe it or not. That thing had more dents in it than you could imagine and still worked fine. I was hiking one time and had swung it around my back because I was climbing some rocks, thing slung around and hit the rocks hard. Didn't hurt it a bit. |
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Don White wrote:
Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Buy one that takes AA or AAA batteries. You can use rechargeable or throw-away batteries no need for a recharger just carry some extras with you in the camera bag. |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:45:23 -0500, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Either one of those are good. My wife has a Canon A710, which has been replaced by one with a slightly higher number. It is a fantastic little camera. You want optical zoom on those, not digital. The Nikon D40 is fine, but you are right...they go obsolete...about every year. :) The D40 has been around for a couple of years now and still is a fine camera. And good lenses go obsolete much much slower than the bodies. You can always use a high quality lens you buy for a D40 on other bodies (D90, D300, etc.) you might want to get later, if you get more interested in creative photography. Or, if you lose interest, sell them for very little loss since good lenses hold their value much better than DSLR camera bodies or compact cameras. Another thing to remember is that just because newer and better cameras come out all the time, that doesn't mean pictures from the one you have get any worse. A new high end DSLR you buy today will continue to take great pictures even after the next best thing comes out. But it's value will drop like a rock when that happens. You can always take advantage of that fact by buying yesterday's high end camera after the new one comes out. I bought a D200 for $400 from a wedding photographer who was upgrading. It's a better camera than anything you can get new for that price, or even twice that price. Steve |
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Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...OLPIX-P80.html |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:52:34 -0500, BAR wrote: Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. Buy one that takes AA or AAA batteries. You can use rechargeable or throw-away batteries no need for a recharger just carry some extras with you in the camera bag. Don't let the battery a camera uses influence your decision. It's a nothing-burger as long as it's rechargable. Any of the high end cameras will not use AA or AAA because their power to size ratio is much worse than the Li-ion batteries they probably use. What could be more important than the battery type, if you're planning on taking a lot of pictures in a day, is the battery life. You may need a spare or two. And the cost of a spare rechargable Li-ion battery over a set of AA NiMH is tiny when amortized over the number of photos you take. Plus, most proprietary camera batteries are available from 3rd party manufacturers for 1/10th the price of the OEM battery. There's nothing wrong with getting a camera that takes AA or AAA batteries. But unless you're talking about something like a DSLR with a battery pack or grip, that's just not an option for anything but the lowest of low end cameras. Steve |
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On Nov 28, 9:52*am, wrote:
On Nov 28, 10:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message m... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem. No, but it may account for why a digital camera becomes "obsolete" faster. The CCD or CMOS sensors are under constant improvement, and not just in terms of the number of pixels or resolution. Efficiency of converting light to electrical energy, power drain, sensitivity, etc. Sorta analogous to new or improved film types developed for older, film based cameras. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem. No, but it may account for why a digital camera becomes "obsolete" faster. The CCD or CMOS sensors are under constant improvement, and not just in terms of the number of pixels or resolution. Efficiency of converting light to electrical energy, power drain, sensitivity, etc. Sorta analogous to new or improved film types developed for older, film based cameras. Eisboch You are absolutely correct, but if you are happy with the quality of your old camera, when a new improved camera comes out, it does not mean you have to upgrade. You will continue to get the same quality you have come to love and enjoy. ;) Computers are always upgrading their CPU's, video cards etc. It seems that the state of the art computer is replaced with a new state of the art computer every 30 days, but I only replace my computer when it will no longer do what I want. I probably get a new computer every 5 yrs or so. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem. No, but it may account for why a digital camera becomes "obsolete" faster. The CCD or CMOS sensors are under constant improvement, and not just in terms of the number of pixels or resolution. Efficiency of converting light to electrical energy, power drain, sensitivity, etc. Sorta analogous to new or improved film types developed for older, film based cameras. Eisboch You are absolutely correct, but if you are happy with the quality of your old camera, when a new improved camera comes out, it does not mean you have to upgrade. You will continue to get the same quality you have come to love and enjoy. ;) We buy a new camera when we loose the old one. Computers are always upgrading their CPU's, video cards etc. It seems that the state of the art computer is replaced with a new state of the art computer every 30 days, but I only replace my computer when it will no longer do what I want. I probably get a new computer every 5 yrs or so. I have owned 4 personal computers in the last 20 years. I do not buy a new one until the old one dies. I did replace a motherboard, CPU and video card to enable a game I had purchased to work acceptably. At work it is a new one every three years. Ass soon as it is depreciated the old one is off to asset recovery and the new one takes its place. The need for this is due to crappy programming by MS and those who write programs for MS and the need for increased amounts of memory to run these sloppy programs. |
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On Nov 28, 11:17*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. *It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. *It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...era/26114/...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My wife has a Nikon Coolpix, not sure which model, and it's a damned fine compact camera. I had a Fujifilm compact that just sucked! The processor lag was just horrific. I took a lot of blurry shots because of it. The nikon coolpix doesn't have that lag. |
Best camera for light use?
On Nov 28, 11:57*am, Tim wrote:
On Nov 28, 9:52*am, wrote: On Nov 28, 10:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message m... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years *vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. *The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. *If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. *A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. Just curious. *What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera? The shutter and mirror mechanisms are a problem with both digital and film. *It needs to flip up to take the photo, but not allow any light through when it is in the down position. *They can lock up or lose there ability to close completely and not allow any light to pass through. My wife had an old film camera that the foam around the mirror (to block the light in the down position), dried up and needed to be replaced. *It was not worth the expense to repair. With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My best 35mm was a Pentax, believe it or not. That thing had more dents in it than you could imagine and still worked fine. I was hiking one time and had swung it around my back because I was climbing some rocks, thing slung around and hit the rocks hard. Didn't hurt it a bit.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mine was a Yashica TL-Super. Very simple. just your basic apature and film settings, timer, and had a non digital light meter in the viewfinder. It got a lot of abuse too. I dropped it onto a concrete floor from about 10 ft. once. it seemed to look and work fine. But the viewfinder was now dropped on one edge. in otherwords, what you saw in the viewer was now tilted. Oh well... It till worked great.I don't use it anymore but am not afraid to. It was and still is a great camera. Then I graduated up to a Minolta x-700. It had a lot of gadgets that were inovative but for me they were unnecessary. To me , the simpler the better. I suppose. I think that's why Tom blamed me for being a "Luddite"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I'll tell you, that Pentax took a lot and kept on ticking, too. Then I graduated to another Pentax (thinking toughness) that was electronic, so that you had aperture and shutter priority. That didn't last nearly as long as my old one. |
Best camera for light use?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17:34 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Don White wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...OLPIX-P80.html Have you tried out the P80 at all? I'm thinking of a new pocket camera for my wife. If you try this one out, or buy it, let me know what you think. Please. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
Best camera for light use?
JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17:34 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Don White wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...OLPIX-P80.html Have you tried out the P80 at all? I'm thinking of a new pocket camera for my wife. If you try this one out, or buy it, let me know what you think. Please. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Someone at the Eastern Sierra workshop had one, and I played with it some. For me, it is the only compact camera, that I have enjoyed using. It feels and operates like a DSLR. I am often asked to take a photo of a couple, and if they have a point and shot, I ask them to set it up the way they want, and all I do is compose and click the button. If all you want is a P&S, the compact cameras are easy. If you actually want to use manual functions, the ease of use can be vary drastically between cameras. |
Best camera for light use?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:59:04 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17:34 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Don White wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...OLPIX-P80.html Have you tried out the P80 at all? I'm thinking of a new pocket camera for my wife. If you try this one out, or buy it, let me know what you think. Please. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Someone at the Eastern Sierra workshop had one, and I played with it some. For me, it is the only compact camera, that I have enjoyed using. It feels and operates like a DSLR. I am often asked to take a photo of a couple, and if they have a point and shot, I ask them to set it up the way they want, and all I do is compose and click the button. If all you want is a P&S, the compact cameras are easy. If you actually want to use manual functions, the ease of use can be vary drastically between cameras. Thanks. I'll take my wife to the store and have her check it out. I got her a small one about a year ago, and she doesn't like it. We'll give this one a try. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
Best camera for light use?
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17:34 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Don White wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...OLPIX-P80.html Have you tried out the P80 at all? I'm thinking of a new pocket camera for my wife. If you try this one out, or buy it, let me know what you think. Please. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Someone at the Eastern Sierra workshop had one, and I played with it some. For me, it is the only compact camera, that I have enjoyed using. It feels and operates like a DSLR. I am often asked to take a photo of a couple, and if they have a point and shot, I ask them to set it up the way they want, and all I do is compose and click the button. If all you want is a P&S, the compact cameras are easy. If you actually want to use manual functions, the ease of use can be vary drastically between cameras. I'd go for one of these: http://www.shutterbug.com/equipmentr...06voigtlander/ |
Best camera for light use?
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. Just curious. What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera? The shutter and mirror mechanisms are a problem with both digital and film. It needs to flip up to take the photo, but not allow any light through when it is in the down position. They can lock up or lose there ability to close completely and not allow any light to pass through. My wife had an old film camera that the foam around the mirror (to block the light in the down position), dried up and needed to be replaced. It was not worth the expense to repair. With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem. I have a Cannon A7 that had the sensor wash out. The camera was 3 yrs old at the time. Turns out it was a known problem and Canon replaced the image sensor for free. Turn around time was 1 week. I was very impressed. We went on a trip last month and I forgot my camera. I picked up a Canon 470. Turns out it is a very nice camera for casual snapshot takers like myself and the wife. |
Best camera for light use?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:48:46 -0500, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: JohnH wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17:34 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Don White wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...OLPIX-P80.html Have you tried out the P80 at all? I'm thinking of a new pocket camera for my wife. If you try this one out, or buy it, let me know what you think. Please. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Someone at the Eastern Sierra workshop had one, and I played with it some. For me, it is the only compact camera, that I have enjoyed using. It feels and operates like a DSLR. I am often asked to take a photo of a couple, and if they have a point and shot, I ask them to set it up the way they want, and all I do is compose and click the button. If all you want is a P&S, the compact cameras are easy. If you actually want to use manual functions, the ease of use can be vary drastically between cameras. I'd go for one of these: http://www.shutterbug.com/equipmentr...06voigtlander/ I doubt if my wife would get much joy out of one of those. Now she's got her own laptop and is pushing for a baby printer to take on scrapbooking trips. I can understand your use of 35mm, but its no longer for us. Thanks, though. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
Best camera for light use?
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: JohnH wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17:34 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote: Don White wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...OLPIX-P80.html Have you tried out the P80 at all? I'm thinking of a new pocket camera for my wife. If you try this one out, or buy it, let me know what you think. Please. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* Someone at the Eastern Sierra workshop had one, and I played with it some. For me, it is the only compact camera, that I have enjoyed using. It feels and operates like a DSLR. I am often asked to take a photo of a couple, and if they have a point and shot, I ask them to set it up the way they want, and all I do is compose and click the button. If all you want is a P&S, the compact cameras are easy. If you actually want to use manual functions, the ease of use can be vary drastically between cameras. I'd go for one of these: http://www.shutterbug.com/equipmentr...06voigtlander/ I like the idea of a rangefinder, but at this time, I am not interested in film. |
Best camera for light use?
Jim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote: D.Duck wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. Just curious. What is the *wear out* mechanism in a digital camera? The shutter and mirror mechanisms are a problem with both digital and film. It needs to flip up to take the photo, but not allow any light through when it is in the down position. They can lock up or lose there ability to close completely and not allow any light to pass through. My wife had an old film camera that the foam around the mirror (to block the light in the down position), dried up and needed to be replaced. It was not worth the expense to repair. With Digital cameras your image sensor can burn out or get enough bad pixels that you will want to replace them, but I have never heard anyone who replaced a camera due to this problem. I have a Cannon A7 that had the sensor wash out. The camera was 3 yrs old at the time. Turns out it was a known problem and Canon replaced the image sensor for free. Turn around time was 1 week. I was very impressed. We went on a trip last month and I forgot my camera. I picked up a Canon 470. Turns out it is a very nice camera for casual snapshot takers like myself and the wife. My son used the Canon 470 when he traveled to SE Asia, India and Africa. He started with the Canon A570, it was stolen from his room, and he purchased a Canon 470. They both took great photos of his trip. |
Best camera for light use?
On Nov 28, 11:17*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Don White wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message m... Don White wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years *vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. The D40 is a great simple to use camera, that can be used in it's auto settings or allow you to manually adjust all settings. It is light weight and you and your wife will absolutely be pleased with the quality. As far as the "obsolete" factor. *The digital cameras will only be obsolete, if you want the new and improved features of the newer improved digital cameras. *If you are pleased with the camera, you can expect over 100,000 photos from the D40. *A digital camera will have an expectant average life similar to the average film cameras. The big thing about the SLRs vs the compact cameras is the size of the processer. I saw an illustration where the D40s processor looked like a 35mm slide compared to an old 110 frame equaling a compact. Dramatic difference! Another concern...I really like to control shutter speed, F stop *and focus manually. ( re my Minolta SRT200 manual film SLR) I'll have to go to a real camera store and find out what the Canon compacts can do. There are some compact cameras that do allow you to manually adjust your shutter speed, aperture, focus and other numerous other settings you did not have on your film camera, it is still a trade off on compact vs DSLR. *I personally find it very difficult to see the compact LCD screen in the sun, I (and probably all people) find the small compact camera impossible to hold steady at slow shutter speeds. You are holding the camera away from you instead of using your arms and head to stabilize the camera. On the other hand, the compact cameras fit in a pocket or purse easily. *Many photobugs own both, just so they always carry a camera and never miss a shot. *If you think about it, the best camera is the one you have with you. That's what so nice about the Kodak, it can be used to look at the screen and also has an eyepiece to see through so you can steady it under the rim of your "outback" if you wear one;) The rim of the hat makes it nice in all lighting situations... I am thinking about buying this Nikon P80 as my compact camera. *It not only has the LCD screen, but an eyepiece so you can hold it the same as a SLR and see your composition in bright light. *It is not as tiny as most compact cameras, but it is easy to carry, even if it is bulky in your pants pocket. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...era/26114/...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Best camera for light use?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. :) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. |
Best camera for light use?
On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White" wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a Fugifilm s-700 and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't downloaded a one of them yet. Eh, my daughter will figure it out. |
Best camera for light use?
On Nov 28, 4:30*pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White" wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a Fugifilm s-700 *and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't downloaded a one of them yet. Eh, my daughter will figure it out. Yeah, there it is: http://www.dcviews.com/press/images/Fujifilm-S700.jpg |
Best camera for light use?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White" wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a Fugifilm s-700 and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't downloaded a one of them yet. Eh, my daughter will figure it out. And why, pray tell, have you not downloaded any yet? You mean they're still in the camera? -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
Best camera for light use?
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. :) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. I'm looking at my December issue of Consumer Reports and they list two Olympus models in the 'subcompact' catagory... the FE-340 in 8th place and Stylus 1010 in 14th neither is "recommended" by Consumers No Olympus cameras in the 'compact' catagory but two models are listed in the 'Superzoom' section. the SP-570 UZ at 8th place and SP-560 UZ at 13th. .......... neither checked off as "recommended" I found that Canon A650 IS at Best Buy (internet purchase only) at $230.00 If I go to a DSLR, I think I'd throw an extra $120.00 and get the Nikon D60 rather than the D40 which only has 6.1 megpixels. (I know, they say 6 is all you need) Funny thing about Consumers...if I go to their website, it's a bit different than Decembers magazine... the Canon A560 IS doesn't show up there after being rated #1 in the compact section in the magazine. |
Best camera for light use?
On Nov 28, 4:51*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White" wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera.. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00.. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a Fugifilm s-700 *and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't downloaded a one of them yet. Eh, my daughter will figure it out. And why, pray tell, have you not downloaded any yet? You mean they're still in the camera? -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* uh-huh. I just haven't.... yet BTW, who should I hook up with for photo hosting? Photobucket? Google? these seem to be quite popular. Ups, downs, drawbacks? |
Best camera for light use?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:03:55 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:51*pm, JohnH wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:35 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 28, 4:03*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:38 -0400, "Don White" wrote: Wife wants to upgrade from my 3 yr old HP R707 compact digital camera. This camera works fine...although the original battery doesn't seem to hold its charge as long anymore while sitting *on the shelf. Costco just happens to have a super price $270.00 CDN for its popular Canon A650 IS *compact. I also see the Nikon D40 on sale here with lens at just under $500.00. I can't justify the higher end SLRs...especially when they seem be be somewhat obsolete every three or four years vs the old manual film SLRs that were still fine after 20-25 years .My usage these days is more snapshot than trying to be artistic...although I do like to do justice to scenery. If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. *In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. *:) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. *I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. Tells you how I handle digital, is over a year ago, I bought a Fugifilm s-700 *and i've taken about 400+ pics with it,and haven't downloaded a one of them yet. Eh, my daughter will figure it out. And why, pray tell, have you not downloaded any yet? You mean they're still in the camera? -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* uh-huh. I just haven't.... yet BTW, who should I hook up with for photo hosting? Photobucket? Google? these seem to be quite popular. Ups, downs, drawbacks? I use photobucket. It's free, does a pretty quick job of uploading, and the default size is 800x600, which fits Chuck's Place and is a good size for a 15" monitor. For family stuff, I'll upload a series (album) to the Costco site. We have Costco print them, 'cause they're cheap and do a good job. I can also let my daughters have access so they can print the ones they want. -- John H *Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!* |
Best camera for light use?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:56:56 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... If you are looking for a high quality point and shoot, then the Olympus FE series is one you should seriously take a look at. Personally, if I were you, I'd look at the FE-310. In particular as you can get them for under $100. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1351 You really don't need a DSLR for what you are looking to do. If you decide to go DSLR, the Nikon D-40 is ok although I'm a little underwhelmed by it. It's a good camera, but it's definetly not a higher end Nikon and the optics are as good as the higher priced cameras. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Nikon - be different. :) My preference for a smaller, DSLR type performance in a semi-point and shoot, the Olympus SP series is a good one. I really like this camera as a point and shoot. http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...p?product=1316 Just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do. I'm looking at my December issue of Consumer Reports There's your problem right there... |
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