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D K November 29th 08 02:05 AM

On topic photos...
 
Boater wrote:
....little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)


Painting your prop? What purpose would that serve? Do you want it to
be pretty until you hit bottom again?

What does Karen charge for storage on her property?


D K November 29th 08 02:09 AM

On topic photos...
 
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg



Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend
a few minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it.
One of these days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the
blade tips. :)

What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props (much
older than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I have had some
dings removed, and it has touched the bottom a time or two, but has
never shown a hint of rust. Is rust on aluminum props common in
salt water?


Jesus. Are you a graduate of the John Herring School of Marine Engine
Ignorance?

"...rust on the aluminum prop."

D'oh.

I think you said you were going to spend a few minutes removing rust
from the aluminiun prop. I could tell you how it could get there but I
won't.



Uh, no...I did not say I was going to remove rust from my "aluminum"
prop. I did not mention the material from which the prop was fabricated.
Obviously, the prop is...steel.


It's aluminum or it's stainless steel. Stainless CAN rust, skipper.

D K November 29th 08 02:13 AM

On topic photos...
 
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:31:32 -0500, Boater
wrote:

...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg



Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a
few minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of
these days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade
tips. :)


What sand bar did you run through? :)



I wish I had...as far as I know, I've not touched bottom with the lower
unit. It still has *all* its original paint.

It's just not that big a deal, guys. Really. Go boating, or, in the case
of FloridaJim, pretend you have a boat.


While you pretend you have a house and a boat without a *really* low
transom?


D K November 29th 08 02:13 AM

On topic photos...
 
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg



Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for
the shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust
after the motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've
got to spend a few minutes removing the rust from the prop and
repainting it. One of these days I'll find a prop paint that
actually stays on the blade tips. :)

What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props
(much older than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I
have had some dings removed, and it has touched the bottom a
time or two, but has never shown a hint of rust. Is rust on
aluminum props common in salt water?


Jesus. Are you a graduate of the John Herring School of Marine
Engine Ignorance?

"...rust on the aluminum prop."

D'oh.

I think you said you were going to spend a few minutes removing
rust from the aluminiun prop. I could tell you how it could get
there but I won't.


Uh, no...I did not say I was going to remove rust from my
"aluminum" prop. I did not mention the material from which the prop
was fabricated. Obviously, the prop is...steel.


It sure was nice of you to start an on topic post. I learn
something new all the time, I had no idea they painted SS props.
All of the SS props I have seen have been polished stainless steel
(a silver or chrome appearance) and they have never had a problem
with rust. I have now learned that they also make a brushed
Stainless Steel that has a tendency to rust. What i can't figure
out (since I am not a graduate of Marine Engine School) why anyone
would buy a brushed stainless steel prop when he has never been
successful in finding a paint that will actually stay on the prop
and he knows that the brushed finish will rust. I guess different
strokes for different folks.

He probably opted for the cheaper grade prop because he knew he was
going to paint it. Notice he said steel. We won't know for sure it's
stainless until he volunteers the info.



There you go again.

I didn't "opt" for any particular prop. What I did do was discuss
props with the Parker factory before my boat was shipped. I was
emailed some prop performance charts, and after additional discussion,
my contact at Parker made a recommendation. I said "you betcha," and
was pleased that the performance numbers he quoted me were right on
the money.

You are acting as if the "rust" bothers me a lot. It doesn't. It's
just a little something I will attend to this week.

Of course, if *you* actually had a boat, you might be spending some
time with it, eh?


Wouldn't you get better performance if you removed the paint?


WAFA has no idea.

D K November 29th 08 02:15 AM

On topic photos...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:17:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg


Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the motor
drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a few
minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of these
days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade tips. :)
What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props (much older
than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I have had some dings
removed, and it has touched the bottom a time or two, but has never shown
a hint of rust. Is rust on aluminum props common in salt water?

As far as painting the props, my props started to lose their paint in the
first year, and I asked the mechanic if I should touch them up. His
comment was that the new paint would "spin off" as soon as i put the boat
back in the water. Don't know if that is true, but it sure has save me
the trouble of repainting the prop. Based upon your experience repainting
props, he was correct. When I have had the prop dings smoothed out and
balanced, the prop shop never bothers to repaint the props for the same
reason.

That's not rust. It's probably a primer paint for aluminum.


I've had stainless props for a long time - never quite understood the
need to paint them.

Unless it's a less expensive type of stainless - then I could
understand it, but why go cheap on the prop?


To save money? Why else would someone get a prop like that?

D K November 29th 08 02:16 AM

On topic photos...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:17:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in
message ...
Boater wrote:
...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg



Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after
the motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to
spend a few minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting
it. One of these days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays
on the blade tips. :)
What surprised me was the rust on the aluminum prop. My props
(much older than yours) have lost half of the black paint, I have
had some dings removed, and it has touched the bottom a time or
two, but has never shown a hint of rust. Is rust on aluminum
props common in salt water?

As far as painting the props, my props started to lose their paint
in the first year, and I asked the mechanic if I should touch them
up. His comment was that the new paint would "spin off" as soon as
i put the boat back in the water. Don't know if that is true, but
it sure has save me the trouble of repainting the prop. Based upon
your experience repainting props, he was correct. When I have had
the prop dings smoothed out and balanced, the prop shop never
bothers to repaint the props for the same reason.
That's not rust. It's probably a primer paint for aluminum.

I've had stainless props for a long time - never quite understood the
need to paint them.

Unless it's a less expensive type of stainless - then I could
understand it, but why go cheap on the prop?


It is the less expensive SS prop. It is called "Brushed SS". I had
never heard of them, but they do have a tendency to rust, as Harry has
highlighted from his photo. I for one would only buy the non rusting
version of SS prop.


PS - I think they use the Brushed SS on the LT boats.


True. Both are disposable.

D K November 29th 08 02:20 AM

On topic photos...
 
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:49:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

why anyone would buy a brushed stainless steel
prop when he has never been successful in finding a paint that will
actually stay on the prop and he knows that the brushed finish will
rust.

The brushed stainless props are usually closer to the 304 end of
hardness, the shiny ones are more like 316 that is not as hard. (there
are really lots of stainless alloys)
If you never hit anything you probably want shiny with thin blades for
performance. Folks who live around shallow water want it to be a tad
bit harder with thicker blades, giving up a little speed for
durability. That shiny, thin blade prop loses a lot of its performance
edge when it gets a few dings in it.

The other reason I have heard of painting props is to trick thieves
into thinking it is aluminum and maybe they won't steal it but I am
not sure that works


I heard the same thing. I use these...

http://www.boatownersworld.com/mcgar...ller_locks.htm

D K November 29th 08 02:21 AM

On topic photos...
 
RG wrote:
With that huge transom cut out, and the operator's endless supply of hot
air, why not just do away with the outboard entirely and have the skipper
lay prostrate across the transom facing aft, in the relative comfort and
security of the cut out and blow bubbles into the nearby water, creating a
surprisingly efficient jet drive. It's green, economical, infinitely
renewable, offers a low carbon footprint, and can't possibly look any more
ridiculous to the average bystander than the current program.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


Because the skipper is a fat lard ass......

Have you seen the size of that transom notch? It's huge. Plenty of room.
Although I do agree that my proposal does make the boat undesirably heavy in
the stern. However, that can be offset by laying in some appropriate
ballast forward. Perhaps a nice four-stroke Honda mounted on the bow would
provide both the necessary weight balance, and some utility as well. I'm
thinking a Civic coupe should just about do it.



Now *that* was funny!

D K November 29th 08 02:22 AM

On topic photos...
 
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:31:32 -0500, Boater
wrote:

...little place for them here, eh?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/ce0a1de9.jpg



Anyway, here's a snap of Yo Ho's business end. I'm waiting for the
shrinkwrap guy to show up this week. Wrapping the exhaust after the
motor drains is part of the winterizing process. I've got to spend a
few minutes removing the rust from the prop and repainting it. One of
these days I'll find a prop paint that actually stays on the blade
tips. :)



Why paint a stainless prop? Surface rust on 304 SS is normal ... if
you don't boat a lot. It really isn't hurting anything. If I am out of
town for a few weeks and not boating I see a little on mine. It buffs
right off after an hour or so of running


Yeah, it does come right off while running. I never gave it much
thought. But I'll still clean it off and coat the prop before the
shrinkwrapper arrives.


You don't want the "shrinkwarpper" to know you don't use your boat?

D K November 29th 08 02:26 AM

On topic photos...
 
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

GPUAR, Reggie. And why not post a photo that shows nature as she
is, Reggie? Certainly an asshole like you can't improve upon it.

Harry,

I don't believe in the philosophy that a photo should capture
exactly what you saw. I follow the philosophy that a photograph
should capture what you felt.


Perhaps if you were sober...

Your photoshopping stands out more than your photos. Which is why I
think they suck. Some of the compositions would be interesting if the
lighting were realistic.


I have never been delusional that my photography or my post processing
would put me in the category of the Masters of Photography. I do
hope I learn something everyday and continue to improve, which is why
I enjoy critiques. I take a lot of photos that I just delete, I take
some that I really like, and sometimes others like too. I figure if I
take 12 great photos a year, that is a good crop.

Now if all I did was go out and take a snapshot, I would sell my camera.


Most of your photography seems to take place in photoshop. Seriously, I
think your photos would be better if you "processed" them a lot less.
They *look* processed.


*You* lift pictures from Google, WAFA, and present them as your own.


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