So I go to the local SS offfice
 

to bring in my birth certificate for retirement benefits.
The on-line instructions said to bring it in when I did the on-line
sign-up a couple week ago.
Said they might ask for DD214 too.
Couldn't find that, so I ordered one.
DD214 still hadn't come, and I debated waiting for today's mail before
I went to the SS office. Nah, just get it done. They won't need it.
Don't want to miss a month's payment for dawdling around.
Bunch of foreigners in the SS office, cripples, maybe scammers playing
cripples, and old people.
I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.
My name is called and a fat black lady beckons me over.
She was nice. Said I don't need to do anything, since I did it all
on-line and only foreign born have to bring in the birth certificate.
She said I should get something in the mail about 2 weeks after the
on-line app, though that was never mentioned on-line.
I just told her it was all worth while being there because I got to
meet her. She laughed, I left.
Got home, and the damned SS letter was in the mailbox.

--Vic

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how much
money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:42:04 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.

I sent in mine by FAX, never went to the office at all.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:01:55 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:42:04 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.

I sent in mine by FAX, never went to the office at all.

The problem is the web sign-up instructions aren't clear or are
misleading. I saved them and put them below.
Sure as hell looks like I was supposed to at least take my birth
certificate to the office.
Nothing about waiting for a letter, then going on-line again.
Don't even think it's necessary as the woman at the office said I'm
basically done since I did the on-line.
But I'll use the password they sent in the letter and check it out.
Saw on the letter I've got until Dec 27, so I better look.
Got plenty of time. Heck, I'm retired.

--Vic



************************************************** ********************************
What You Need to Do Now! Thank You! Your electronic application has
been received.
Please print this screen now or write down the information that
applies to you.
It will list the address where you sent your completed application,
advise you where to submit your documents, give you information about
changes you must report and repeat the confirmation number you need to
check the status of your claim on the Internet. You will not be able
to return here if you go to another screen.

We cannot complete processing your claim until we have received and
verified all of your required documents.

If you discover that something is incorrect on the electronic
application you sent, please submit the corrections to the office you
chose to process your claim, along with any documents.

If you indicated that you intend to file a Supplemental Security
Income (SSI) application and we do not hear from you within 60 days,
you may lose SSI benefits. Call our toll-free number at 1-800-772-1213
to arrange an appointment to file for SSI. If you are deaf or hard of
hearing, call our toll-free TTY number, 1-800-325-0778. These claims
cannot be applied for over the Internet.

Documents You Need to Submit to Social Security
You must submit your Original Birth Certificate or a Certified Copy of
your birth certificate or other proof of birth to the office you
choose to process your claim. And, if applicable, you must also submit
proof of your:

Citizenship/Naturalization (if other than your U.S. birth
certificate);
U.S. Military Service (e.g., DD214 - Certificate of Release or
Discharge from Active Duty);
Wages from your employer for last year (e.g., copy of your W-2 form);
Self-employment income for last year (e.g., IRS Schedules C and SE);
and
If we determine that you qualify for benefits as a spouse, we may also
need proof of your marriage. We will contact you if necessary after we
receive your application.
Note: If you have already proven your date of birth and citizenship
status while filing a claim for another benefit administered by Social
Security (e.g. Medicare, Supplemental Security Income, prior Social
Security disability, etc.), you do not have to submit these proofs
again.

We must see your original birth certificate or other proof of age. We
cannot accept photocopies unless they are certified by the office that
issued the original. If Citizenship or Naturalization is involved, we
also must see your original documents. For your convenience, we can
accept uncertified copies of your military service papers, W-2 or IRS
Schedule C or SE forms. We will return all documents and photocopies
to you unless you specifically tell us otherwise.

Do not delay mailing or bringing in your documents, even if you do not
have all the documents we need. We will help you get any other
documents you need.

Where Do I Submit My Documents?
Please mail or take the documents we indicated we need to:

SOCIAL SECURITY
215 SOUTH ELMHURST RD
PROSPECT HEIGHTS, IL 60070

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch


Beats me. But maybe they figured I might also get a military pension and
that may affect my SS?

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

It's not at all clear, just another hoop you have to jump through.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
om...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Eisboch

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlink .com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.
Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Eisboch



Screwed that one up. My sister found the benefit for my mother, who now
resides in an assisted living facility.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:58:19 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlink. com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh

In other words, don't bother.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlink .com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Eisboch


Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Eisboch

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:45:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:58:19 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlink .com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh

In other words, don't bother.

Hey! That could add about seventeen cents a month to your SS check. Nothing
to sneeze at!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:52:53 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Eisboch


Go for it.

It would be worth doing purely for the mental challenge.

You could always donate the money, if you're man enough to bust through the
maze and get it in the first place!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlin k.com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:52:53 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Was that the Frank Sergeant "bonus" when he was governor of MA?

If I remember, it was $50 or something like that.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:08:16 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:45:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:58:19 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlin k.com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh

In other words, don't bother.

Hey! That could add about seventeen cents a month to your SS check. Nothing
to sneeze at!

You know, I don't even know if I qualify for SS. Never looked into
it.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:08:16 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:45:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:58:19 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.
Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.

Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.

What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh
In other words, don't bother.
Hey! That could add about seventeen cents a month to your SS check. Nothing
to sneeze at!

You know, I don't even know if I qualify for SS. Never looked into
it.

Don't you get a statement every two years from the SSA? My wife looks at
mine, looks at my insurance policy and gets a sparkle in her eye and a
sly grin on her face. I have trouble sleeping that night.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthli nk.com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.
Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me
how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

I thought *all* vets were eligible for medical care no matter when they
served.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:52:53 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf
with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have
been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is
tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Was that the Frank Sergeant "bonus" when he was governor of MA?

If I remember, it was $50 or something like that.


No, but that's another one. I think that was a state bonus of $500 but
could be wrong. Maybe it was less.
Haven't thought about this for a long time.

Eisboch

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.
Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me
how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of
a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k
a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf
with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have
been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is
tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

I thought *all* vets were eligible for medical care no matter when they
served.


Nope.
Retired and/or disabled.
Retired meaning a minimum of 20 years of active duty service. (unless that
has changed)

Eisboch

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.
Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me
how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and
remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of
a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k
a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf
with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have
been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is
tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

I thought *all* vets were eligible for medical care no matter when they
served.


Nope.
Retired and/or disabled.
Retired meaning a minimum of 20 years of active duty service. (unless
that has changed)

Eisboch

Just for my own curiosity I did a little Googling. Looks like you need a
Philadelphia lawyer to figure out if one meets the eligibility requirements.

http://www.va.gov/healtheligibility/...ligibility.asp

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:31:39 -0500, BAR wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:08:16 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:45:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:58:19 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.
Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.

Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.

What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh
In other words, don't bother.
Hey! That could add about seventeen cents a month to your SS check. Nothing
to sneeze at!

You know, I don't even know if I qualify for SS. Never looked into
it.

Don't you get a statement every two years from the SSA? My wife looks at
mine, looks at my insurance policy and gets a sparkle in her eye and a
sly grin on her face. I have trouble sleeping that night.

LOL!!

Yep...

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:25:06 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.
Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me
how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and
remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of
a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k
a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf
with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have
been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is
tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

I thought *all* vets were eligible for medical care no matter when they
served.


Nope.
Retired and/or disabled.
Retired meaning a minimum of 20 years of active duty service. (unless
that has changed)

Eisboch

Just for my own curiosity I did a little Googling. Looks like you need a
Philadelphia lawyer to figure out if one meets the eligibility requirements.

http://www.va.gov/healtheligibility/...ligibility.asp

Or a sympathetic Congresscritter.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.
Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Eisboch


Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

My brother is an agent orange person. He gets medical via the VA even
though he did not retire from the Navy

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

Eisboch wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Eisboch



Have you ever thought about when Harry went to Viet Nam? He stated he
graduated from college, then went to work for Kansas City newspaper,
then went to Yale, then worked as a Union organizer in Chicago. I guess
he must have done Viet Nam after high school before college. Army
Generals prefer to hire kids just out of high school.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:14:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthli nk.com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

Absolutely! That's where I get these free $2000 hearing aids!

Get thee to thy nearest VA office and get yourself a VA ID card. Take your
proof of injury and make sure the card says "SERVICE CONNECTED" on the
front. You'll be given a physical for your first appointment. I don't use
them for anything but hearing, because like you, I'm on my wife's
insurance.

Did you apply for CSRS yet? Are you getting any VA benefits?
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:06:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214.
Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me
how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

I thought *all* vets were eligible for medical care no matter when they
served.


No.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf
with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have
been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that
is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Eisboch


Have you ever thought about when Harry went to Viet Nam? He stated he
graduated from college, then went to work for Kansas City newspaper,
then went to Yale, then worked as a Union organizer in Chicago. I guess
he must have done Viet Nam after high school before college. Army
Generals prefer to hire kids just out of high school.

I'm beginning to think Harry made this up. All of it. Who do you think
he is trying to impress?

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

Jim wrote:


I'm beginning to think Harry made this up. All of it. Who do you think
he is trying to impress?

Do you think?

I saw where Harry gave you the heads up that someone threatening to post
your name and address in Usenet. I hope you haven't had any negative
repercussions from your personal information being posted on the
internet. Maybe if you send an email to the person and beg for
forgiveness he may not make the post.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf
with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have
been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that
is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Eisboch


Have you ever thought about when Harry went to Viet Nam? He stated he
graduated from college, then went to work for Kansas City newspaper,
then went to Yale, then worked as a Union organizer in Chicago. I guess
he must have done Viet Nam after high school before college. Army
Generals prefer to hire kids just out of high school.


Was that your experience? I wasn't hired by an Army general.

It's so nice being the object of affection of so many right-wing pieces
of ****. Like you.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Jim wrote:


I'm beginning to think Harry made this up. All of it. Who do you think
he is trying to impress?

Do you think?

I saw where Harry gave you the heads up that someone threatening to post
your name and address in Usenet. I hope you haven't had any negative
repercussions from your personal information being posted on the
internet. Maybe if you send an email to the person and beg for
forgiveness he may not make the post.




It's not up to me to repost it. When it hits, though, it'll be interesting.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:10:48 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:14:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthl ink.com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh


Thanks. I am still a few years away from SS, but I'll save and remember
your link.
Apparently, there are many little known and often unused benefits
available for vets and/or surviving spouses. My sister, as a result of a
lot of digging, found an obscure benefit that now provides an extra $1k a
month in addition to her SS to help pay for assisted living costs.

Well, I didn't qualify for this one.

You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.

Being retired, did you keep your VA medical?

I have 20% disability because of war related injuries and I'm entitled
to VA care, but I've never used the VA medical system because I
haven't needed to. I still don't because we have a private policy for
me and Mrs. Wave is covered by her employer.

Absolutely! That's where I get these free $2000 hearing aids!

Get thee to thy nearest VA office and get yourself a VA ID card. Take your
proof of injury and make sure the card says "SERVICE CONNECTED" on the
front. You'll be given a physical for your first appointment. I don't use
them for anything but hearing, because like you, I'm on my wife's
insurance.

Yeah - I already have the ID card - I just don't use it. I get a
letter every once in a while asking if I'm still alive, but other than
that, nothing.

Did you apply for CSRS yet? Are you getting any VA benefits?

Not a one - I don't even get the 20% disability payment - never
applied for it. When I was discharged, I was given an interview, this
that and the other thing (I can't remember exactly), they did the
whole review thingy, I got the ID card and that was that. I think the
last time I heard from them, it was to get a new card which I got at
the Newington VA hospital - no, that's not right - I got it at the VA
hospital in West Haven.

Can't see taking something I don't need.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:03:37 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:45:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:58:19 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:51:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:xbadnTX2lowlsLbUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlin k.com...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:18:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I tell you, it was like being in hell.
Waited at 2 different stations, maybe an hour in total.
Seemed like 17 hours.

Too late now but you can do it all on the telephone.


Not really. I did it via wesite and they wanted to see the dd214. Went
down and maybe 15 minutes, guy said not really needed, and told me how
much money you working stiffs were going to send me each month.


What does your DD 214 have to do with SS?

Eisboch

They can explain better than I:

http://tinyurl.com/2rc6sh

In other words, don't bother.


This might be significant if you were in the military for most of your
life and didn't get to max out your SS taxes every year.
Most of us with a decent job probably paid the max FICA. The only
years I didn't was the first partial year I worked and the last
partial year before I retired. Since I was in the military during that
first year it might give me an extra dime a month in my check ;-)

I still can't go for my SS until my wife retires. She makes enough
money that would cause the IRS to confiscate my SS check. No sense in
not letting it accrue until I am 70 at this point..

I need to ask about it sometime. I suspect that I'm not eligible.

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:11:38 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:06:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



I thought *all* vets were eligible for medical care no matter when they
served.


No.

Not sure how it works, but one of my little brothers did a few years
in the Army in the early '70's. Germany mostly.
He got sick with Hep C and ended up in the VA hospital north of
Chicago. Visited him there.
Don't know how that worked. He was down and out.

--Vic

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:36:05 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:11:38 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:06:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



I thought *all* vets were eligible for medical care no matter when they
served.


No.

Not sure how it works, but one of my little brothers did a few years
in the Army in the early '70's. Germany mostly.
He got sick with Hep C and ended up in the VA hospital north of
Chicago. Visited him there.
Don't know how that worked. He was down and out.

--Vic

If he had a service connected disability, then he is entitled to more than
one who just served for a couple years during a war or during peacetime.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:15:43 -0500, Jim wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
You are right with your statement. A retired Air Force Colonel I golf
with
was in Vietnam. He has diabetes and various other ailments which have
been
associated with Agent Orange. About a year ago I mentioned the Agent
Orange
program the military has been conducting. He knew nothing.

He's now getting almost double his retirement pay, and half of that
is tax
free. It pays to keep up with the benefits.


I qualified for a Vietnam bonus that I never applied for.
(Harry would love to know why I didn't)

I wonder if I could still apply and get it, plus interest.
Nah.

Eisboch


Have you ever thought about when Harry went to Viet Nam? He stated he
graduated from college, then went to work for Kansas City newspaper,
then went to Yale, then worked as a Union organizer in Chicago. I guess
he must have done Viet Nam after high school before college. Army
Generals prefer to hire kids just out of high school.

I'm beginning to think Harry made this up. All of it. Who do you think
he is trying to impress?

Tom, Eisboch, and his buddies at alt.kooks.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

So I go to the local SS offfice
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:24:02 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Jim wrote:


I'm beginning to think Harry made this up. All of it. Who do you think
he is trying to impress?

Do you think?

I saw where Harry gave you the heads up that someone threatening to post
your name and address in Usenet. I hope you haven't had any negative
repercussions from your personal information being posted on the
internet. Maybe if you send an email to the person and beg for
forgiveness he may not make the post.


Seems like Harry made that one up also. He wasn't able to post or forward
the 'alleged email'.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"